What if Romania participate in Polish-Soviet war and stays effectivelly an ally of Poland? How much does it strecth it borders to the east?
Stretch them where? The government and king of Romania had no desire to rule over a bunch of Magyars.How much does it stretch its borders to the east?
Well, Hungary is to the West of Romania. And actually they already rule over bunch of Magyars after WWI, didn't they?Stretch them where? The government and king of Romania had no desire to rule over a bunch of Magyars.
My point. They got as much as was good for them.Err, oops, read that as West. And it should've been "a bunch more".
Anyway, the same issue applies, except that instead of Magyars it's Ukrainians (and some confused porpoises).
What if Romania participate in Polish-Soviet war and stays effectivelly an ally of Poland? How much does it strecth it borders to the east?
Stretch them where? The government and king of Romania had no desire to rule over a bunch of Magyars.
If Romania did participate in the Polish-Soviet War, I don't think its boundaries would change much than IOTL. Perhaps some minor border adjustments. Instead, they'd be helping the Poles establish the Ukrainian People's Republic of Simon Petlura as an anti-Bolshevik or anti-Russian measure.
If the Polish-Romanian-Ukrainian alliance wins so that an effective Ukrainian state can be formed (perhaps at least reaching to the Dnieper and including Kiev), then Romania's borders change very little. If the alliance fails, then Romania might find itself holding onto Ukrainian land it really doesn't want filled with resentful Ukrainian nationalists. Hopefully, it'd be small enough to not destabilize Romania. If the combined Polish and Romanian areas of Ukraine are large enough, perhaps they are able to create a rump Ukrainian state with a capital at Lvov - but that relies on the Polish government letting Pilsudski "give" that land away to an independent Ukraine instead of ruling it themselves.
The thing with Poland and Ukraine is, sooner or later their relations will crash due to Poland having alot of Ukrainian speaking territory. While aiding Pelitura is one thing, actually wanting a Ukrainian state to exist is another. As you said there is no way Poland is willing to give up territory, in this scenario they might even have annexed a little more than OTL. Pelitura was a tool Poland used, one they happily would discard, since they never intended to really have him succeed.If Romania did participate in the Polish-Soviet War, I don't think its boundaries would change much than IOTL. Perhaps some minor border adjustments. Instead, they'd be helping the Poles establish the Ukrainian People's Republic of Simon Petlura as an anti-Bolshevik or anti-Russian measure.
If the Polish-Romanian-Ukrainian alliance wins so that an effective Ukrainian state can be formed (perhaps at least reaching to the Dnieper and including Kiev), then Romania's borders change very little. If the alliance fails, then Romania might find itself holding onto Ukrainian land it really doesn't want filled with resentful Ukrainian nationalists. Hopefully, it'd be small enough to not destabilize Romania. If the combined Polish and Romanian areas of Ukraine are large enough, perhaps they are able to create a rump Ukrainian state with a capital at Lvov - but that relies on the Polish government letting Pilsudski "give" that land away to an independent Ukraine instead of ruling it themselves.
Pelitura was a tool Poland used, one they happily would discard, since they never intended to really have him succeed.
Poland was divided, as far as Ukraine goes. Nationalists with Dmowski wanted all territories of the old Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, including most of Ukraine. They believed they would later be able to Polonize them.
As far as I understand Dmowski was a skeptic towards how feasible Polonization of large territories were.