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When would be the best time for Poland to attack Germany because they are not going to let hitler attack them
The problem is that any Polish war with Germany, either offensive or defensive, gives Stalin an opportunity to attack. As OTL showed, neither a nonagression pact nor an alliance with other major powers guarantee safety from a Soviet stab in the back.
He disliked the Poles enough. And it's not like Germany will say no to some help even if they wouldn't need it. It will be done faster.Without MR-pact, Stalin probably would not dare to make any backstabs.
He disliked the Poles enough. And it's not like Germany will say no to some help even if they wouldn't need it. It will be done faster.
Edit: the key ponts are
a) they need their back secure from Stalin, French support might be enough
b) French support
In fact Pilsudski asked France if they would support Poland if they invaded in 1934, France Said no.
there was China...
Maybe too, but I meant this:Japan actually.
It was possible for Poland to pull off a victory against Germany at any point from 1922-1934
In fact Pilsudski asked France if they would support Poland if they invaded in 1934, France Said no. If France had said yes, that was probably the best shot they were going to get.
I'm afraid that seems to be just a long-lived myth, with no substance to back it up.
Pilsudski never had any reason to propose such a thing anyway; for Poland, Hitler came as a welcome improvement in relations over his predecessors; his very first foreign policy act as Chancellor was to end an extremely damaging (for Poland, not for Germany) Customs and Tariffs war with the Polish Republic, and negotiate the German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact that was signed in January of 1934. Hitler frequently praised Marshal Pilsudski, both publicly and in private and from 1934 until after Munich, Poland was seen internationally as the nation with the closest relationship with Nazi Germany; one of the outcomes of Munich was that Czechoslovakia was forced to surrender the Zaolzie region to Poland.
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It was determined that France was unwilling to react adequately if Poland were attacked.
This led to the decision to normalize relations with Germany, Polish-German talks in late 1933 and the nonaggression pact in early 1934.
That schism occurred in 1925 with the signing of the Locarno Pact; the French saw fit to sign the pact, which guaranteed the permanence of the Franco - German border, but did not insist on similar undertakings by Germany to France's ally Poland and article 2 of the Pact had "Germany and France, mutually undertake that they will in no case attack or invade each other or resort to war against each other."
While the Pact did allow the exception of "Action in pursuance of Article 16 of the Covenant of the League of Nations", the wording of article 16 itself fell well short of the automatic military response that the 1921 Franco - Polish alliance had stipulated. In fact, article 16 of the Covenant didn't require military action at all; only asking other states to subject an aggressive nation to "the severance of all trade or financial relations, the prohibition of all intercourse between their nationals and the nationals of the covenant-breaking State, and the prevention of all financial, commercial or personal intercourse." Even that was only after a vote in favour by the League.
The overtures to establish diplomatic ties, end the tariff war and sign the non-aggression pact were made by Hitler; doubtless to secure his back in the event of any French action, and also in the hope of drawing the Poles into a formal alliance later.
The polish army wasn't a joke in 33/34 .. Hell it wasn't a joke in 39.I don't see a reason for Poland to attack.
But..
A Polish-German war in the spring of 1934 could be an interesting TL. The Reichswehr (not yet Wehrmacht) wasn't yet much stronger than during Weimar times 100 000, so the 3.5 million strong SA would be the mayor force on the German side.
1924.When would be the best time for Poland to attack Germany because they are not going to let hitler attack them
1924.