Poland-Lithuania under the Hohenzellern

Is it possible for the Hohenzellerns to rule Poland-Lithuania commonwealth in the first place, are there be possible candidates for the Poland-Lithuania in the Hohenzellerns and how could they win? And could this Poland-Prussia-Lithuania-Ukraine unite with Germany?
 
It is probably possible for some POD to lead to the Hohenzollerns ruling (the duchy of) Prussia and the Commonwealth, but it would probably not be possible to do it without significant impacts elsewhere that would interfere directly and indirectly with Germany forming to begin with.
 
They would have to be Catholic if they are elected. IIRC there is a Catholic branch of the Hohenzollerns somewhere in Southern Germany, which could make good candidates. It'd be hard for a Protestant to gain the throne of Poland without invasion.
 
The Imperial Triple Monarchy of Poland-Lithuania-Prussia:D;):p:eek:. What a giant that would be. Especially if it kicked Austria's ass. Definitely could keep Russia at bay.


Possible for the Hohenzollerns to rule? Well, if they are good enough rulers, but weren't the Monarchs elected by the Polish Parliament of the Time?:confused:
 
The Imperial Triple Monarchy of Poland-Lithuania-Prussia:D;):p:eek:. What a giant that would be. Especially if it kicked Austria's ass. Definitely could keep Russia at bay.


Possible for the Hohenzollerns to rule? Well, if they are good enough rulers, but weren't the Monarchs elected by the Polish Parliament of the Time?:confused:

Yeah, the Sejm, may it rot in the hell reserved for incompetent, self-serving aristocrats.
 
The Imperial Triple Monarchy of Poland-Lithuania-Prussia:D;):p:eek:. What a giant that would be. Especially if it kicked Austria's ass. Definitely could keep Russia at bay.


Possible for the Hohenzollerns to rule? Well, if they are good enough rulers, but weren't the Monarchs elected by the Polish Parliament of the Time?:confused:

Yes, the Polish monarchy was elective, and you had to be Catholic, which would be a problem for the Lutheran Hohenzollerns.
 
How about the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringens somehow get to become the Kings of Prussia? Dunno how, or why, but then you at least have the Catholic Kings of Prussia in place for an election...
 
How about the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringens somehow get to become the Kings of Prussia? Dunno how, or why, but then you at least have the Catholic Kings of Prussia in place for an election...

Then you'd have the problem of the fact that Brandenburg-Prussia is Lutheran.

I could see a Hohenzollern being put in charge of someone's puppet Poland-Lithuania; possibly a more successful Swedish Deluge leads to some ATL younger brother of Frederick William being placed on the Polish-Lithuanian throne. This could also help greatly in pushing through reforms to make the crown hereditary, centralize authority, etc.; no one's going to vote no if there's a Swedish army sitting outside ready to march in. The Swedish motive would be making Poland a strong allied state against Russia.

Alternatively, you could have the same scenario as above, but with a Vasa instead of a Hohenzollern being placed on the throne initially, but with the Vasas and Hohenzollerns merging. That has the advantage of merging the two countries together when the houses merge. There would certainly be a War of Succession, but beside that, it's workable. You could certainly have a Hohenzollern on the throne of Poland by 1700 or so, assuming a POD in the Deluge.

That does butterfly the Hohenzollerns from taking the title of King in Prussia, but they won't need it if they have Poland-Lithuania.
 
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