can any one think of a POD for Israel's government getting over thrown by the military or an anti-democracy political party taking (and holding) power?
A less successful Yom Kippur war? The Arabs could be making huge gains on Israeli soil, and some military officers could overthrow Golda Meir (who was unpopular for her handling of the war OTL). Plausible?lets say post 1967
Didn't they start out with alot of heavy communist influence?
of course, such a state wouldn't really be viable without the constant support of western powers, and since the POD suggested is the absence of that support, I doubt such a situation would continue long before undergoing something along the lines of south africa.
The Israeli military have historically been strongly Mapai/Labor. I find it highly unlikely they'd coup the leader of the party closest to them, let alone set up a military junta in the country. If a religious theocratic party came to power, I could see the IDF overthrowing them though.A less successful Yom Kippur war? The Arabs could be making huge gains on Israeli soil, and some military officers could overthrow Golda Meir (who was unpopular for her handling of the war OTL). Plausible?
Any nation which disenfranchises a large chunk of its population and slowly eats away at what they have left cannot be called democratic.
A less successful Yom Kippur war? The Arabs could be making huge gains on Israeli soil, and some military officers could overthrow Golda Meir (who was unpopular for her handling of the war OTL). Plausible?
Hardly. It was the rest of the cabinet that dropped the ball over Yom Kippur. The defense ministry convinced Meier not to call up reserves going into the holiday, and to forgo any plans of a pre-emptive attack.Eh, to the point of costing Golda Meir her office? Easy, she dropped the ball hugely on Yom Kippur and avoided it by basically threatening to glass everyone who was attacking. Destroying an established Israeli democracy, not so easy.
An early Israel being recruited as a Soviet client state is an interesting idea but I find it difficult to believe that America which has a lot of Jews itself and played a huge role in Israel's creation is going to take this sitting down. It's not an issue of does the US get involved it's almost certainly an issue of when. Best case scenario the US kicks the communists out and helps establish a successful democracy in Israel, the system in Israel today is far more reminiscent of the American one and Mideast affairs are defined largely by a less strategic US relationship with Israel (it's going to be weaker and if it's a former communist state it likely will resent the imposition of an American-backed regime), which could open up Arab states that were entirely hostile to the US because of their ties to Israel OTL. Maybe the US actually continues its relationship with Ba'athist Iraq beyond the '63 and '68 coups.
I'm gonna restate my position that a good POD for this is a change in america first, with knock-on effects in israel. I don't think that there's much short of actively and explicitly declaring itself a fascist bizarro-nazi successor state that israel could do to lose US support. so the change has to come in american politics.
either a more isolationist american foreign policy post 1948, or one that for some reason is actively supportive of the arab countries. a world of laughter, a world of tears has this, but in that TL israel becomes more left-leaning as a result, which personally I don't see as likely. it certainly didn't happen to OTL south africa when the rest of the world began deserting it.
anyway, point is, maybe the speculation should be around what changes in the US could lead to a policy like that?