Player Two Start: An SNES-CD Timeline

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Oh, yeah, when is South Park coming up (assuming it's still a thing ITTL)?

Via Wikipedia: Soon after meeting in film class at the University of Colorado in 1992, Parker and Stone created an animated short entitled The Spirit of Christmas.[26] The film was created by animating construction paper cutouts with stop motion, and features prototypes of the main characters of South Park, including a character resembling Cartman but named "Kenny", an unnamed character resembling what is today Kenny, and two near-identical unnamed characters who resemble Stan and Kyle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park#Origins_and_creation

I'm turing on Ry Signal(turn on ry signal) butterflies can land anywhere, we got a good topic to discuss thanks.
 
. What we're going to show today is a game that is about halfway done, perhaps a bit more than halfway, and that we're planning to release sometime next year. We called it Project DREAM, and now it's very close to being a reality.*

*A video plays on screen as a teenage boy begins to speak. The boy is sitting in a badly damaged home on an island as his younger sister sleeps nearby.*

I've always wondered, what's out there....? What's out there beyond this place that has nothing left for me?

Boy: *he looks at his sister, a sad look on his face*

Before my parents died, they said there were dangers, that we could never leave this place... that everything we needed was right here.

*Scenes are shown of the boy wandering around, gathering food, fishing, trying to provide for his sister, but then a scene is shown of a terrible storm that nearly destroys their house and kills them.*

Girl: *looking into her brother's eyes* Edison, are we going to be okay?

Edison: Of course, Ella...I promise.

It was a lie. After the storm, I knew if we didn't get off this island, we were going to die there. Whatever lay beyond this ocean, it couldn't be worse than what awaited us here.

*The boy builds a raft, and with his sister, sails out across the ocean...another storm hits, he holds her close.... the raft washes up on shore and the boy is alone, nearly dead, as he is found by an anthropomorphic bear and his bird companion.*

Kazooie: Who is he....?

Banjo: He's hurt, we gotta help him!

I made a mistake. And now, Ella's.....

Edison: *sits up in bed* Where's Ella, where is she? ELLA!!!

*The boy realizes he's in a village full of animal characters, including Banjo the bear, Kazooie the bird, Tiptup the turtle, Bumper the badger, Pipsy the mouse, and a dog named Dinger*

Tiptup: Please, don't try to get up-

Edison: I'm going to find my sister!

*The first gameplay scenes are shown, the game seems to be a 3-D platformer like Mario but with much deeper combat, indeed the game in reality plays like a hybrid of OTL's Banjo-Kazooie and Kingdom Hearts, less role-playing elements than Kingdom Hearts and with a lot of Banjo-Kazooie-style collecting, after the gameplay scenes the boy is shown being brought on board a ship, blindfolded with his hands tied in front of him, a pretty girl about his age removes the blindfold and smirks at him, her name is Madera*

Edison: Let me go, I have to find Ella!

Madera: You're not gonna be findin' anyone, pirate!

Edison: I'M the pirate?

*More scenes play, showing a mix of human and animal characters in various roles, also showing more gameplay with Edison fighting alongside Madera and Banjo, Kazooie can be seen attacking out of Banjo's backpack. Then there's a scene showing a towering castle with lightning flashing in the sky, standing in the castle balcony is an ugly green witch who is almost identical to OTL's Gruntilda.*

Gruntilda: Find them, find them all and bring them here!

*Edison and Madera are seen standing in front of a shaman, OTL's Mumbo Jumbo.*

Mumbo Jumbo: Inkum bokum! *casting a spell that causes a wave of smoke to engulf Edison and Madera*

*Another scene plays, showing the two under attack from a pack of werewolves.*

Edison: Madera, behind you!

Madera: *barely dives out of the way in time to avoid the werewolf swiping at her*

*Another scene is shown of Banjo strumming on his banjo as Edison and Madera and some of the animal characters begin to dance. More scenes play, including a boss fight against a huge lava creature.*

I don't know if I'll ever see Ella again. I don't know if she's even still alive. But I'll never stop looking. I'll find Ella, or I'll die trying.

*Edison and Madera are sitting on a hill underneath the stars. Madera places a hand on his.*

Madera: I'll never stop looking either. We'll find her, Edison. You and me.

Edison: *just smiles at her*

*The game's logo is displayed.*

THE DREAMERS

1998

Only for Ultra Nintendo

*The crowd explodes into wild applause as the Stampers soak it all in. Tim Stamper speaks.*

The Dreamers is the culmination of all of our hard work, effort, and creativity over the past three years. We hope you enjoy it and we do have a demo available to play on the show floor. Thank you all and come see us at our booth!”
-Tim and Chris Stamper's keynote speech at E3 1997

I have created a timeline called a different channel over on implauble alternate history wiki. I view it it ha an any think goes alternate culuter timeline. The timeline inculdes videogame. In a differnet channel channell Attria is but out by nec, Panisconic makes entered itn the gameing market in the five gen with a console called the Ace and ninetdo buys sega out in 1998. I got plans for project dream which are different form what happen to the game in this timeline. For instances ediosn is scraped as being to generic and Banjo is made as the main characte, Gruntaildia is a male gaint called grunty , and tooty is called piclo . I am thinking of calling project dream, Banjoes Quest in a different channel
 
Again i suggest you not use any content here without both approval, ry and myself are pretty protective our work, again try make your stuff more original, nice our ideas are inspiring you, keep working
 
We'll definitely touch on South Park and we may cover something to have to do with Transformers as well. A lot of the other stuff we've seen mentioned so far will be covered. Princess Diana will come later on, I imagine she'll appear at the end of the August update.
 
Just caught up on the new updates. To say the Ultra Nintendo is stacked would be the biggest understatement of...well, pretty much all time! :eek: :D

Can't wait for the pop culture update!
 
Hi guys, juss popping in for my first comment on this lovely timeline, after catching up with it. It's been really cool so far, are you taking this up to the present? I like the consistent structure of the updates, I'm really getting the feel of the era by these in-universe month-by-month segments. Anyway, I have some quick comments and questions on the future of this smashing tale :

- Is there going to be a bigger focus on PC in the future. I understand TTL mostly focuses on the console wars, but how about a yearly or biannual update on PC gaming? With the rise of digital distribution platforms like Steam (or what might replace it due to butterflies) it'd be hard to ignore.

- Speaking of Valve, as the last update reveals Half-Life is still happening, have you been planning their future endeavours? If you are looking for some inspiration by means of unreleased games, I'd refer you to this video. That game called Prospero wouldn't be that far from where this TL is now, and it'd be interesting to see Valve head into in a new direction from the one we know. And if you can stop Duke Nukem Forever from (temporarily) being vaporware, why not Half-Life 3 ;)

- Compared to OTL, are games of TTL more accepted as 'mainstream' media?

-The growth of the game industry seems to have brought with it some nasty business practices, like the 'vertical slice' and other such forms of false advertising. I know the console wars of the 90s got pretty heated too, but looking back at those ads makes it all seem quite playful, as opposed to the cynical mood the games industry is giving me these days (and I think it's not just me). Anyway, my question would be, will such a development be reflected in TTL, or do you think there's a creative way to get around this?

I hope my questions aren't too bothersome/ranty. In any case, thanks for this wonderful twist on the gaming world we know and love!:D
 
By the way, whats going on with Insomniac Games ITTL. In OTL, they were founded in February 1994 and released the First Person Shooter Disruptor, initially developed for the 3DO before moving to the Playstation, in 1996.

As Spyro was a huge part of my childhood, I really want to know about what Insomniac's doing at this point, especially with the UNES out in Japan and rapidly approaching release in the states.
 
The Bafour, Answering your question in order, thansk for your patronage with the tl nice to post your mussing about it.

1)When we've put PC pretty secondary, again as PC and Console were to universe different all together, here thanks to SNES-CD and *Saturn, Console port are more common and somewaht easier to do. Major(Milestone) PC releases always are annoucend the OTL month or closer to equivalent ITTL, as butterflies are low but important, those game come to mind, so we update alongside the TL, so far ID, Duke Nukem and Upcoming Ion Storm and Valve have won mention, the rest just wait how come along the TL, maybe later we will give more mention and importance but as you see, TL Focus is Console war and pop culture.

2) Butterflies will affect anyone, Valve is not excpetm, maybe having more console prescence here? pretty possible and easy, the rest, just wai their Opera Prima(Half Life) is released.

3) Of Course, read the TL, that is big point, The SNES-CD and Sony and Nintendo stratetgy to selling CD games early to adults(both young and full ones) an keeping more regulated but uncensored and mature content early, ERSB helped that regard later but videogames are easier a more spread hobby.

4) That come later but with the butterflies it will not be that bad and less otl,at lot of bad practices is what i called the HD Curse or HD Nightmare with bloated budget, productions fails and techical collapses, here butterflies are massive to keep it short.

thanks for the comments, thanks to all for the love and suppor of the TL :)

By the way, whats going on with Insomniac Games ITTL. In OTL, they were founded in February 1994 and released the First Person Shooter Disruptor, initially developed for the 3DO before moving to the Playstation, in 1996.

As Spyro was a huge part of my childhood, I really want to know about what Insomniac's doing at this point, especially with the UNES out in Japan and rapidly approaching release in the states.

Sony First and Second party come at the time need, again if OTL Nintendo co exist with a lot franchises, sony would be the same, but will come later not worry about it ;) . I think Disruptor was mentioned in 1995-1996 but the month i not clear for me now? the rest games are in back burner or waiting Ultra is out to polish and released it.
 
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Oh, yeah, what about Gianni Versace; his death could be butterflied away (heck, if you're making tornadoes worse)...

In the to do list(to check and see how unusual was his death, yeah he was one i going not escort today, what would goes wrong') still checking how unfold.
 
Sweet updates! Looks like the Ultra's managing to be competitively priced after all. Can't wait for the pop culture update!

I must've misread/misinterpreted something somewhere along the way, I'd thought that Sonic Fighters was already out. Definitely looking forward to finding out more about SoniQuest!
Vitua Quest sounds pretty cool too. ;)

I must admit I'm kinda surprised that SEGA didn't say anything about the "Ring of Saturn" project just to steal the Ultra's thunder a little bit; or is that going to be their ace in the hole for if/when the Ultra starts to really eat into their market share, and they're counting on pure bluster to keep fan base galvanized?

Mildly disappointed that my favorite Smashing Pumpkins song isn't going to be in the GOOD Batman movie, but instantly mollified by it being part of the next-phase Saturn campaign. :D
 
The Ring will be unveiled at E3 1998. No more details on that one, heh.

And as for the Versace killing, I always figured the major butterflies would revolve around Andrew Cunanan. The guy was a complete lunatic. Either way, he won't be involved in the pop culture update but he could pop up in the July update.

Speaking of the pop culture update, if there's anything else anyone might want to see covered, make sure to let us know, I'm hoping to do the update on Wednesday if things go well. Remember, not everything suggested will make the cut (not enough time or space and some of it might be covered later on), but we would like to have a nice, diverse pop culture update to give to you guys.
 
Thought of another one, don't know if could be discussed, but the rise of streaming audio and video over the internet. RealAudio came to be in '95, with RealVideo arriving in '97.

Of course, if we're talking about audio over the internet, one can't forget MP3s, which are set to explode in '97 along with the first WinAMP release.

There's also stuff like AOL Instant Messaging and other internet trends to consider.
 
Thought of another one, don't know if could be discussed, but the rise of streaming audio and video over the internet. RealAudio came to be in '95, with RealVideo arriving in '97.

Of course, if we're talking about audio over the internet, one can't forget MP3s, which are set to explode in '97 along with the first WinAMP release.

There's also stuff like AOL Instant Messaging and other internet trends to consider.

I think more of the internet trends will come up later on in the TL, later into 1997 or into 1998 or so. Microsoft and Apple will be discussed in this update though.
 
Speaking of the pop culture update, if there's anything else anyone might want to see covered, make sure to let us know, I'm hoping to do the update on Wednesday if things go well. Remember, not everything suggested will make the cut (not enough time or space and some of it might be covered later on), but we would like to have a nice, diverse pop culture update to give to you guys.

Would be nice to get at least a little something on the wrestling front. IOTL, 1997 was the year Stone Cold Steve Austin really started getting super hot in the WWF...until the botched piledriver by Owen Hart at Summerslam.

Of course, you touched on Dennis Rodman earlier...he was involved in a reeeeally shitty angle with Hollywood Hogan in WCW at around this time. He even wrestled a few matches on PPV, IIRC. But the less said about those, the better. :(

Any questions you guys may have, feel free to PM me about. :)
 
Speaking of the pop culture update, if there's anything else anyone might want to see covered, make sure to let us know
Steve & Larry is something that springs immediately to mind. That and The Weird Al Show. And I don't think Face/Off was mentioned yet...

Wouldn't also hurt to see how Seinfeld is doing ITTL (I know, I know, but that didn't stop you from looking at Friends...)

Also, while admittedly these came out in 1998, there's also Celebrity Deathmatch and That 70s Show...
 
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The Ring will be unveiled at E3 1998. No more details on that one, heh.

And as for the Versace killing, I always figured the major butterflies would revolve around Andrew Cunanan. The guy was a complete lunatic. Either way, he won't be involved in the pop culture update but he could pop up in the July update.

Speaking of the pop culture update, if there's anything else anyone might want to see covered, make sure to let us know, I'm hoping to do the update on Wednesday if things go well. Remember, not everything suggested will make the cut (not enough time or space and some of it might be covered later on), but we would like to have a nice, diverse pop culture update to give to you guys.

Is Family Guy going to be a thing OTL? Something to consider, is that it came after South Park, so if any butterflies affect SP, then it will have an effect on FG.
 
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