Player Two Start: An SNES-CD Timeline

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RySenkari

If ATL Gran Turismo looks even better than OTL Gran Turismo 2, the Ultra Nintendo must be almost as powerful as the PlayStation 2, if not even more so.
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Not necessarily since Gran Turismo 2 was a late-gen PS1 game. Ultra Nintendo is a proto-Dreamcast essentially, more powerful than any OTL gen 5 console but not up at the PS2's level. It could probably pull off some of the early PS2 games though.

God Bless the Ring
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, huh? ;) Hopefully, Square will do a better job with it this time, Ehrgeiz had a lot of potential IMO - it could've been the gritty sci-fi version of Soul Calibur.
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Yep, it's Ehrgeiz without the Final Fantasy characters and an expanded storyline. It's also without the dungeon mode (which gets its own game ITTL).

Huh, nothing major on the Game Boy front. I'd figure there would be a Link's Awakening DX announcement or something like that. Or at least some other Game Boy Color updates of original Game Boy games.
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There ARE some good Game Boy Color games releasing in OTL 1997 (including a Squaresoft RPG), I just haven't been able to hash out the details on them yet. Shantae is also coming. I'll try to summarize all of 1997's GBC happenings, maybe in a mini-update, I've been too busy coming up with all of the other stuff to think about the Game Boy right now :(

question will the Sega Saturn and ultra Nintendo state of emulation be for the future, will they be for example as easy as say the ps1 is for us today or will they be convoluted like the n64?
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Both TTL's Saturn and TTL's Ultra Nintendo will be harder to emulate than OTL's Nintendo 64. Saturn is OTL Nintendo 64 with discs, and Ultra Nintendo has a proprietary format specifically designed to combat piracy. There will be emulation of both consoles but it will take a lot of time.

I've got a couple of ideas for some original games, anyway...
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I'll tell you what we need is 1998 and beyond Saturn games and 1999 and beyond Ultra Nintendo games, so if you have any ideas for those, fire away!

Speaking of ideas, the big pop culture update is next, so let us know what you'd like us to touch on and we might do it!
 

Unknown

A couple of things:

The 1997 NBA playoffs, of course.
The Batman and Robin movie.
Oh, yeah, Ennis Cosby (Bill Cosby's son) was killed IOTL in January of 1997. Is his death butterflied away (if you could somehow kill Bill Cosby off, a lot of people would like that)?
I'd also like to know more about the sitcom Fair Play, if possible.
When is Titanic set to come out?
Does Peyton Manning come out early (in 1997, as opposed to 1998 OTL)?

Good update, BTW.
 

flydeath

Both TTL's Saturn and TTL's Ultra Nintendo will be harder to emulate than OTL's Nintendo 64. Saturn is OTL Nintendo 64 with discs, and Ultra Nintendo has a proprietary format specifically designed to combat piracy. There will be emulation of both consoles but it will take a lot of time.

I understand that i'm just asking for the theoretical state by like say 2010, even today both Sega Saturn and N64 emulation is ridiculously hard and many games look buggy or don't work will that be the fate for emulation on both consoles way down the line?
 

RySenkari

flydeath said:
Both TTL's Saturn and TTL's Ultra Nintendo will be harder to emulate than OTL's Nintendo 64. Saturn is OTL Nintendo 64 with discs, and Ultra Nintendo has a proprietary format specifically designed to combat piracy. There will be emulation of both consoles but it will take a lot of time.

I understand that i'm just asking for the theoretical state by like say 2010, even today both Sega Saturn and N64 emulation is ridiculously hard and many games look buggy or don't work will that be the fate for emulation on both consoles way down the line?
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By 2010, Saturn should have most of the big games at least decently playable. As for the Ultra Nintendo, I imagine just the sheer brute number of people trying to emulate it should ensure that it'll get close to perfect emulation by 2015, despite the difficulty.
 

flydeath

RySenkari said:
By 2010, Saturn should have most of the big games at least decently playable. As for the Ultra Nintendo, I imagine just the sheer brute number of people trying to emulate it should ensure that it'll get close to perfect emulation by 2015, despite the difficulty.
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neet :)!!!
 

Golden Darkness

Let see regarding pop culture...

Perhaps an update on Power Rangers Turbo after the movie.

Steve Jobs is supposed to return to Apple with the purchase of NeXT. Microsoft in OTL also makes their investment into Apple around this time.

Pokémon for everyone. Unless that's an end of the year update, whether the seizure incident happens, and the official announcement of a Pokémon anime movie.

Star Wars in general, with the growth of the Expanded Universe, prequel planning, and new found relevance in light of the Special Editions.
(Speaking of which, what of X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter and its expansion Balance of Power? While XvT would be released in April 1997 OTL, early for E3, I'd figure Balance of Power would show up at the Star Wars booth since that's a November 1997 release OTL)

Harry Potter is actually released in the UK this year.

Tiger Woods also starts his golfing career.

What's happening with Toonami? Is Slayers still airing on it? And on a related note, the trends in anime.
 
Colonel Levnekov

Colonel Levnekov

On anime; until Gainax or another company releases an ending similar to OTL NGE, then there will not be the trope of a 'Gainax Ending'.

Speaking of which, 2000 is coming up...let's hope that FMA can disregard the laws of equivalent exchange and make it even better than OTL. :p
 

RySenkari

Golden Darkness said:
Even though it would be late for this, a nice reference list of high points in Satoru Iwata's career:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1083851&highlight=iwata

Should be sorta helpful for the next few years.

BTW, I didn't have this question answered.

Is the Ultra Nintendo in Japan the Ultra Famicom, or the Ultra Nintendo?

And it's just the Ultra Nintendo outside Japan, not the Ultra Nintendo Entertainment System?
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It's the Ultra Nintendo everywhere.
 

Nivek

Golden Darkness said:
Even though it would be late for this, a nice reference list of high points in Satoru Iwata's career:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1083851&highlight=iwata

Should be sorta helpful for the next few years.

BTW, I didn't have this question answered.

Is the Ultra Nintendo in Japan the Ultra Famicom, or the Ultra Nintendo?

And it's just the Ultra Nintendo outside Japan, not the Ultra Nintendo Entertainment System?
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RySenkari said:
It's the Ultra Nintendo everywhere.
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Yeah and remembering Itoi old interview about nintendo 64 name: https://yomuka.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/64dream_199611_05.jpg

(here the magazine would ne ultra dream,;) ) The reason would be that, putting the company name forefront and is not anylogner a family computer,xd.

Colonel Levnekov said:
On anime; until Gainax or another company releases an ending similar to OTL NGE, then there will not be the trope of a 'Gainax Ending'.

Speaking of which, 2000 is coming up...let's hope that FMA can disregard the laws of equivalent exchange and make it even better than OTL. :p
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Hey i loved FMA as was, and equivalent exchange made sense both phisically and metaphysical(was freedman old adage of there is not free lunch make a magic rule :D ) but still what would be of FMA would be different, mangaka or other would jump to videogames or other stuff all together.

About more Gecko or No Ending.... dunno, gundam, macross or something?.
 

KamuiArchetype

Final Fantasy Tactics, eh? Nice. So, did Matsuno still do his jump from Quest to Square? If so:

1) Will this FFT have the Ivalice Alliance races or is it all just Humes? I think it'd be cool to have a variety of races in the original FFT.

2) Will it include all of the extras from War of the Lions (aside from Luso and Balthier, of course)?

3) If Cloud is still recriutable, does he have his actual Zodiac sign instead of being an Aquarius?

4) Will Woolsey keep the Queen references? Please say yes, because fuck the OTL retranslations of FFT and Tactics Ogre for taking them out (and for several other things).
 

RySenkari

1) Will this FFT have the Ivalice Alliance races or is it all just Humes? I think it'd be cool to have a variety of races in the original FFT.

2) Will it include all of the extras from War of the Lions (aside from Luso and Balthier, of course)?

3) If Cloud is still recriutable, does he have his actual Zodiac sign instead of being an Aquarius?

4) Will Woolsey keep the Queen references? Please say yes, because fuck the OTL retranslations of FFT and Tactics Ogre for taking them out (and for several other things).
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FFT would have a variety of races, still. It would probably be mostly like the original game, not many of the War of the Lions extras but a bit better looking graphically. I think Cloud would still be an Aquarius and the Queen references would stay in.

Does anybody think that shadow maddness will be released square
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Possibly, not sure about that yet though.

So would the Ultra be on par with the ill-fated M2? or stronger?
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Significantly stronger.
 

KamuiArchetype

RySenkari said:
FFT would have a variety of races, still.
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Nice. I always liked having the race restrictions for certain classes (and thus certain skills). Does that mean certain characters might be other races instead? Because I am highly amused at the idea of a Moogle Mustadio. Then again, OTL FFXII did have a mostly Hume party, so FFT's cast could still be the same ITL while the generics can be of all races. Makes the generic recruits more useful and valuable due to race-specific Jobs and skills.

There'd also be minor changes to the backstory (mostly the Cataclysm stuff) to account for the survival of the other Ivalice races, but that shouldn't change anything major in the storyline.

Another thing I forgot to ask is if the party recruitment space is larger than OTL FFT, because OTL if you decide to collect all of the named characters, you had no space for any generics or monsters at all, which was a pain. It shouldn't be a problem this time considering the size of the storage medium.


t would probably be mostly like the original game, not many of the War of the Lions extras but a bit better looking graphically.
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I'd imagine those extras would be the battles and cutscenes that are actually storyline-related, as well as Jobs and skills.

I think Cloud would still be an Aquarius and the Queen references would stay in.
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Aww, disappointed in the former and yay, ecstatic with the latter.
 

RySenkari

RyderWest said:
What will happen to the OTL Family Feud hosts now Bernie Mac is hosting ITTL? I asked this a while back.
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Richard Dawson still hosts it from 1994-95 as IOTL. In 1999, when the show comes back for syndication, Chuck Woolery takes over. He stays on until 2004, when Ryan Stiles starts hosting, and then Bernie Mac takes over in 2008 and is still alive and hosting the show in TTL's 2015.

As for OTL's hosts, Richard Dawson pretty much stays as IOTL, passing away in 2012 as IOTL. Louie Anderson dies of a cocaine overdose in 2000. Richard Karn and John O'Hurley remain minor character actors as IOTL. I haven't figured out what to do with Steve Harvey yet but as of TTL's 2015, he's probably as successful as he is IOTL.
 

RyderWest

RySenkari said:
Richard Dawson still hosts it from 1994-95 as IOTL. In 1999, when the show comes back for syndication, Chuck Woolery takes over. He stays on until 2004, when Ryan Stiles starts hosting, and then Bernie Mac takes over in 2008 and is still alive and hosting the show in TTL's 2015.

As for OTL's hosts, Richard Dawson pretty much stays as IOTL, passing away in 2012 as IOTL. Louie Anderson dies of a cocaine overdose in 2000. Richard Karn and John O'Hurley remain minor character actors as IOTL. I haven't figured out what to do with Steve Harvey yet but as of TTL's 2015, he's probably as successful as he is IOTL.
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Ryan Stiles? The same guy from Whose Line Is It Anyway OTL? Since Whose Line didn't air until August 1998, I can assume he would not do that show or do it but leave when he went to host Family Feud in 2004.
 

Nivek

KamuiArchetype said:
Final Fantasy Tactics, eh? Nice. So, did Matsuno still do his jump from Quest to Square? If so:

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IIRC Quest is a third party studio and not owned by enix, if they want, they would make FFT as a 'summer project' when keeping Ogre Franchise in whatever Enix say where to put it(and not even enix own it, was Quest, that is how we got Ogre Battle 64 co funded with Nintendo)
 
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