Player Two Start: An SNES-CD Timeline

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Golden Darkness

Nice set of updates.

Any sales figures for the Super Nintendo family by any chance? And how is the Saturn faring in Japan, considering it's been a year now since it launched.

How many SNES-CD games sold at least a million by now? In OTL 1996, Nintendo would launch their "Player's Choice" reprints of million seller titles.

Looking at the SNES-CD titles, some titles pop out...

Battletoads: Dark Queen - Winter '96 - So Rare is continuing the Battletoads series. Surprised that they have the resources to do it along their co-productions with Nintendo. Who's publishing this?

Fire Emblem: The Holy War - Spring '96 - This is the Genealogy of the Holy War, right? Using the "Holy War" seems bland in a way. How about... Crusades of the Bloodlines, if this is the same plot as OTL?

Ninja Gaiden IV - Summer '96 - Well, looks like the reception of the Ninja Gaiden Trilogy convinced Tecmo to do a new installment now instead of in the middle of the 6th console generation.
 

RySenkari

Any sales figures for the Super Nintendo family by any chance? And how is the Saturn faring in Japan, considering it's been a year now since it launched.
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I don't have exact numbers, you'll have to wait probably until 1997 before I can calculate those. As for Japan, Saturn's doing decently there, better than in the states. It's outselling Genesis by a LOT, though SNES-CD is still beating it out.

How many SNES-CD games sold at least a million by now? In OTL 1996, Nintendo would launch their "Player's Choice" reprints of million seller titles.
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Hmmm....

Street Fighter II: Arcade Edition
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario World 2
Star Fox
Mortal Kombat
The Secret Of Monkey Island
NBA Jam
Donkey Kong Country
Squad Four
The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Dreams
Super Mario World 3
Doom
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest

Of the games already released, Secret Of Mana will hit 1,000,000 eventually, as will Tales Of The Seven Seas, Ballistic Limit, Twisted Metal, Frederico, Andrekah, Mortal Kombat II, and Where In The World is Carmen Sandiego?, but these are the SNES-CD titles that have sold 1,000,000 copies in North America as of January 1, 1996.
 
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RySenkari

Battletoads: Dark Queen - Winter '96 - So Rare is continuing the Battletoads series. Surprised that they have the resources to do it along their co-productions with Nintendo. Who's publishing this?

Fire Emblem: The Holy War - Spring '96 - This is the Genealogy of the Holy War, right? Using the "Holy War" seems bland in a way. How about... Crusades of the Bloodlines, if this is the same plot as OTL?

Ninja Gaiden IV - Summer '96 - Well, looks like the reception of the Ninja Gaiden Trilogy convinced Tecmo to do a new installment now instead of in the middle of the 6th console generation.
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Battletoads: The Dark Queen will be a game about, you guessed, it, the Dark Queen :) It'll tell her backstory and she'll be the main playable character, it's quite different from previous games in the series and is being published by Midway.

Yes, Fire Emblem is "Genealogy of the Holy War". It's a bland title I know but Nintendo, who had eschewed religious-themed material in the past, woul think it very edgy XD

Yeah, we get a current-gen Ninja Gaiden ITTL. It'll be as tough as the previous ones, perhaps even tougher :)
 

Nivek

Golden Darkness said:
Nice set of updates.

Any sales figures for the Super Nintendo family by any chance? And how is the Saturn faring in Japan, considering it's been a year now since it launched.

How many SNES-CD games sold at least a million by now? In OTL 1996, Nintendo would launch their "Player's Choice" reprints of million seller titles.

Looking at the SNES-CD titles, some titles pop out...

Battletoads: Dark Queen - Winter '96 - So Rare is continuing the Battletoads series. Surprised that they have the resources to do it along their co-productions with Nintendo. Who's publishing this?

Fire Emblem: The Holy War - Spring '96 - This is the Genealogy of the Holy War, right? Using the "Holy War" seems bland in a way. How about... Crusades of the Bloodlines, if this is the same plot as OTL?

Ninja Gaiden IV - Summer '96 - Well, looks like the reception of the Ninja Gaiden Trilogy convinced Tecmo to do a new installment now instead of in the middle of the 6th console generation.
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Ry already answered about sales, we will need to figure and approximated(and using rule of three) for SNES/SNES-CD one, Fifth Gen will be easy but that is later. Player choice label will come not worrry, and ry already put the list of early candidates.

About the game, pacience with those, they will be come at their time. and remember something, even Holy war is better that Genealogy of the Jihad(seriously, how got that, the correct trassnlation of seisen no keifu is either geneaology of holy warrior or blood of holy warriors, depend how translated keifu)
 

Golden Darkness

RySenkari said:
Yes, Fire Emblem is "Genealogy of the Holy War". It's a bland title I know but Nintendo, who had eschewed religious-themed material in the past, woul think it very edgy XD
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The story is more political intrigue than religious in nature, although I wonder how Nintendo deal with the actual Brother/Sister incest that occurs.
 

Nivek

Golden Darkness said:
The story is more political intrigue than religious in nature, although I wonder how Nintendo deal with the actual Brother/Sister incest that occurs.
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RySenkari said:
I think they'd just change a bit of dialogue, keep them brother and sister and hope people don't pick up on it too much XD
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Wonder what certain Old Bearded writer would think if someone(his childern/granchildern) plat Fire Emblem 4....

And GD, there an actual holy war against evil, just that come much later.
 

Golden Darkness

RySenkari said:
I think they'd just change a bit of dialogue, keep them brother and sister and hope people don't pick up on it too much XD
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Considering a big part of the plot involves said brother and sister being manipulated to have children with each other due to their bloodlines, people not picking up on it is kinda difficult, I think.
 

RySenkari

Golden Darkness said:
Considering a big part of the plot involves said brother and sister being manipulated to have children with each other due to their bloodlines, people not picking up on it is kinda difficult, I think.
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I guess them being siblings would have to be changed then, entire swaths of dialogue would have to be altered to make them legendary somethings or other who could create the ultimate child by marrying XD
 

RySenkari

Golden Darkness said:
How much of the game's plot do you know anyhow?
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Nothing off the top of my head, when the month of the game's release came up I was just planning to look it up on Wikipedia and see what I could do with it, that's what I usually do with games I don't know much about honestly XD

Just trust me, I'll make something good out of it, while a lot of this timeline is deeply planned, there's a lot of stuff I just come up with off the top of my head :p
 

Nivek

Golden Darkness said:
How much of the game's plot do you know anyhow?
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RySenkari said:
Nothing off the top of my head, when the month of the game's release came up I was just planning to look it up on Wikipedia and see what I could do with it, that's what I usually do with games I don't know much about honestly XD

Just trust me, I'll make something good out of it, while a lot of this timeline is deeply planned, there's a lot of stuff I just come up with off the top of my head :p
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Golden Darkness said:
Considering a big part of the plot involves said brother and sister being manipulated to have children with each other due to their bloodlines, people not picking up on it is kinda difficult, I think.
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RySenkari said:
I guess them being siblings would have to be changed then, entire swaths of dialogue would have to be altered to make them legendary somethings or other who could create the ultimate child by marrying XD
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Damn Nobody Notice my comment. So, Fire emblem expert here,:D.

Spoilers ahoy: The only thing will be 'localized' will be about Alvis family drama, not that big, but mostly about rather a mutual infidelity of both parents(who give us two characther who are half-bro and sis, Azel and Diadora respectly) will be lesser(mayne Cygun being lopto blood was so big scarred Cygun and Victor just killed himself because being abandoned was a humillation) and Diadora, at worst will be first cousin(another mayra, both female,a little fuck you from Naga-Tiki to Lopto-Grima) distant related at best. taboo but not that big as half brothers.

Is feasible, FE fans will not liked when found about it but they will understand Nintendo why they do it.
 

RySenkari

Nivek said:
Damn Nobody Notice my comment. So, Fire emblem expert here,:D.

Spoilers ahoy: The only thing will be 'localized' will be about Alvis family drama, not that big, but mostly about rather a mutual infidelity of both parents(who give us two characther who are half-bro and sis, Azel and Diadora respectly) will be lesser(mayne Cygun being lopto blood was so big scarred Cygun and Victor just killed himself because being abandoned was a humillation) and Diadora, at worst will be first cousin(another mayra, both female,a little fuck you from Naga-Tiki to Lopto-Grima) distant related at best. taboo but not that big as half brothers.

Is feasible, FE fans will not liked when found about it but they will understand Nintendo why they do it.
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That works just fine, maybe you should come up with the Fire Emblem stuff, I think I'd probably prefer that so it would free me up to do the other parts of that update ^_^ if you want to anyway.
 

Nivek

RySenkari said:
That works just fine, maybe you should come up with the Fire Emblem stuff, I think I'd probably prefer that so it would free me up to do the other parts of that update ^_^ if you want to anyway.
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Don't worry, Fire emblem is my forte, just thinking like shozou kaga is a little hard(unlike modern fire emblem, when narahiro and yamagami are better knew) XD.
 

Nivek

KamuiArchetype said:
Will Kaga be able to implement those plans to have more surviving parents from Sigurd's army for Holy War that he wasn't able to do OTL?
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He is jumping from 24 Megabit(3 Megabyte) to 600 MB, he would be more able to implement those stuff without wondering about space. Pacience the game will come soon and FE4 is massive with all preproduction ideas, i'm having fun with it
 

Pyro

I wonder what comic books will look like in 1996. I have a couple ideas; the post-Zero Hour DCU will definitely be different with Wonder Woman and the Katar Hol Hawkman's (as well as Shayera Thal Hawkwoman) histories ironed out and their League memberships restored. Grant Morrison on Legion of Super-Heroes, which I imagine some elements from OTL DC One Million may creep in.

Aside from a different and shorter Clone Saga, Marvel may be on a similar trajectory in regards to its non-Spidey and X-Men superheroes i.e. Onslaught.

Oh that note, do any other DC heroes make non-playable appearances in Battle For Earth?
 

RySenkari

Pyro said:
I wonder what comic books will look like in 1996. I have a couple ideas; the post-Zero Hour DCU will definitely be different with Wonder Woman and the Katar Hol Hawkman's (as well as Shayera Thal Hawkwoman) histories ironed out and their League memberships restored. Grant Morrison on Legion of Super-Heroes, which I imagine some elements from OTL DC One Million may creep in.

Aside from a different and shorter Clone Saga, Marvel may be on a similar trajectory in regards to its non-Spidey and X-Men superheroes i.e. Onslaught.

Oh that note, do any other DC heroes make non-playable appearances in Battle For Earth?
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Hmmm....you're certainly free to send us your ideas, you know more about comics than I do so your input would definitely be appreciated. I'd have to think about who else shows up in Battle for Earth, I know we don't have too many plans for comic book based games beyond 1996 for the SNES-CD (though I figure the Saturn and Ultra should have them, I'm thinking about a couple comic book games for the Saturn later in 1996 but I'm not sure who they'd be based on).
 
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