Player Two Start: An SNES-CD Timeline
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Hey I know that Sega is going to release this timeline version of the Nomad soon with I believe will be called with a built in mega charger, I know that in a previous post that only about 30% of all genesis games came with the enhancements, if the Venus becomes decently successful does that mean that there will be some games marketed to it as a Sega Venus game even though it will work on a mega charged genesis?
I know this sounds dumb but marketing the games for their handheld to make it more enticing might mean literally marketing the games to be a sort of Sega Venus exclusive even though it is int.
I know this sounds dumb but marketing the games for their handheld to make it more enticing might mean literally marketing the games to be a sort of Sega Venus exclusive even though it is int.
30% Percent of Upcoming Library since june 1994, who are a lot of games(well mostly sports and some otl improved games, plus some 32x one like Star wars arcade, Doom and others). As you say, a 'Venus Exclusive game' would run perfectly in a genesis+mega charger, meaning people would still keep releasing genesis game for mega charger and being compatible with venus and viceversa.
But again price and batery life are they keys for portable, plus the killer app....and sega seems lacking in those fronts.
Let's wait the Gameboy keep his life, we still have 2 donkey kong game and a RPG from gamefreak
Then can you please try to even the handheld market a little? I know it won't affect Sega quite as much as the success of the Saturn (though I still want that to happen) would. Am I wrong in guessing that another party will enter the console race by the new millennium at least? It's not like a certain computer giant doesn't have enough resources to pull it off.
You're not getting my point. It's not about possibility in-story, it's about aesthetics and presentation. Going back to my Metroid example, not!Gandalf would have been fine if, instead of wizard robes and staff, his character design included a techno-organic type outfit a la the Chozo. It's the PRESENTATION matching PAST PRESENTATIONS that matters to me and why I continue to emphasize aesthetics rather than character background in my previous posts. My concern is Doylist rather than Watsonian.
Eh, that's the last I'll say of it, as I just wanted to clarify my position. Nivek and RySenkari's still doing great work.
Before I forget, who bailed out Sunrise this time, with Bandai screwing themselves over?
The thing is that at the time, battery life was a HUGE limiter in handheld tech and Sega never quite figured that out. Until rechargeable batteries caught on there honestly was probably only room for one major handheld maker. Sega would have to take a radically different approach to catch up with Nintendo and I don't see very many butterflies to save Sega here. Once Pokemon comes out that would be another nail in Sega's coffin.
Plus, it's kind of a common trope in these game timelines to have a true Game Gear successor, it's kind of a change of pace for Nintendo to maintain handheld dominance
And....it would be an enormous super duper ultra spoiler to reveal our plans for a third game company so you won't get anything about that from us.
I will say ONE thing...it won't happen before 2000.We have not figured that out yet. Ideas are welcome!
The thing is that at the time, battery life was a HUGE limiter in handheld tech and Sega never quite figured that out. Until rechargeable batteries caught on there honestly was probably only room for one major handheld maker. Sega would have to take a radically different approach to catch up with Nintendo and I don't see very many butterflies to save Sega here. Once Pokemon comes out that would be another nail in Sega's coffin.
Plus, it's kind of a common trope in these game timelines to have a true Game Gear successor, it's kind of a change of pace for Nintendo to maintain handheld dominance
And....it would be an enormous super duper ultra spoiler to reveal our plans for a third game company so you won't get anything about that from us.
Ry reinforced my point, handleds were a different animal all together and still i can not consider enough butterflies to changed that(Gamegear was only popular in Europe and some part of america IIRC) and Sega with Nomad/Venus wanted to keep pushing Genesis tech level(here with most sucess that otl, but that is a portable genesis+mega charger, not a Handled on his own).
Again the issue is... lack of enough butterflies, maybe fi Ion-Lithium Batteries were developed early, would make a system who at least allow self charge for 6 hour, would be good enough for a sector of the market(those who would buy psp in otl, that awful batery life).
Just, SEGA is SEGA, they've more important commitent with their arcades and home consoles, thus handleds were the aftertought of the company(mostly riding Gameboy Sucess and a way to reuse MarkIII hardware).
The Interesting, Sunrise was just buyout the last year(1994) before Solaris(nee Pippin), the same year tomino dropped gundam right to be leaved alone, meaning Sunrise is Bandai, so if nobody stepped into it(yet), Sega would get all bandai holding, alongside Sunrise and Banpresto(and banpresto, being an arcade distrbuitor and crane machine too, would be into eyes of Sega).
So..Some ideas in that front? if not..sega take it all.
So Sega now has access to Gundam fuck yes, maybe they should produce a Gundam game for the western market, and tie it in with one of their series, problem is will it with otl Wing Gundam or will they try to do reanimation of the original one year war to introduce the west to the Universal century.
On another note I do know that Sony introduced Li-Po battery's in 1991 with there Sony CCD-TR1 8 mm camcorder, the batteries ran at 7.2 V and I believe (though I could be wrong) came at over 2000 mAh battery. And I know that for the gameboy there were sort of third party rechargeable batteries, so again for the 1995 onward I don't find it impossible for there to be lipo batteries in the Sega Venus.
On another note I do know that Sony introduced Li-Po battery's in 1991 with there Sony CCD-TR1 8 mm camcorder, the batteries ran at 7.2 V and I believe (though I could be wrong) came at over 2000 mAh battery. And I know that for the gameboy there were sort of third party rechargeable batteries, so again for the 1995 onward I don't find it impossible for there to be lipo batteries in the Sega Venus.
About Gundam and other...keep waiting, we've plans for those,and remember, Bandai Own Banpresto too, that name should ring a bell for some anime fans here
The issue, not offense, the system would not be that portable with these: http://www.kodifoto.es/WebRoot/Stor...C/1247/FA28/AC10/140B/9274/Sony_NP-F930_2.jpg
(remmeber the Gamegear was even able to fit into big pocket who were popular in 80's fashion)
In general...i think Venus would used it and selling a high price range(is the genesis for the car and long trips, mostly for those long time) and keep it fresh with price drops, during 4-5 hour with a recharge of 2 would be a good tradeoff but still...that is portable at all(Gameboy who endure like 20+ with their AA batteries).
Handleds are a sideshow but when certain partner got a interest about it, the hurricane of butterflies will come soon
yea just pointing out some possibility's, I mean if the Sega Venus will be used for like road trips than a rechargeable battery especially for the car will work. And its not like they cant make smaller batteries again the 3rd party rechargeable batteries for the Gameboy (though I have no idea on what there battery life is?)
Yeah that is the idea, much better managed and exectuted that OTL, but still, Kalinske and other have zero hope to dethroned the gameboy , just keeping genesis level tech in use and keep selling those for the time(but that will keep a divergence, as developer have more experience with handleds even if a little minor).
About 3rd party rechargable GB batteries...the same, but seems as not where that massive(never knew of one) where not that good as traditional disposable ones.
So flydeath, keep handleds at bay, we've the whole meat in consoles for now, but if you read the clues...will knew how handleds can change in the long term.
Wasn't the game gear 6 millon, or that was other console? In theory yeah, 10 millon is a 9%-10% of gameboy, heck not even wonderswan was able to match that(3 millon IIRC), make wonder why sega never followed, seems i was right they were more worried with arcades and them the flegging saturn.
In general, Sega already casted their luck with handleds, maybe when tech become cheaper or have more organization will try again.
Nivek I am pretty sure the Game Gear sold somewhere in the ballpark of 10 Million... Still that's like no more then 8% of what the Gameboy sold. Wow what a success!
Gameboy was gameboy, that wasnt' a scratch in the paint but anyother would have kill for those numbers(only psp urpassed it, and vita is still yet to reach it) and that means in average, a instalbase of 3-4 millon loyalist for next gen if they would have pushed it properly.
And rememberm, that was pre pokemon, Pokemon Added like 30 millon extra of game boy too.
Still. The die was casted, at least Venus would not embarass itself unlike OTL.
Belive me, was till Thande Timeline(recomended even if dead now) that i knew Nomad was a thing(Gamegear knew thanks to magazines).
Umm that is about Gamegear or Nomad? for the gamegear is not that bad, Nomad did was a fiasco(again not bad idea just poorly excectued)but again, again gameboy take sony millons to fight it and yet was unable to beat Nintendo in their game(and now the vita is the otaku machine).
So, Let's keep Handled quiet, so far Nintendo is happy DKL is selling millons and waiting how Pocket Monster will unfold(seems the game will miss Holiday 1995, but still can do good numbers during 1996 spring season)
Given this timeline's Nomad will incorporate the Mega Charger components, I think battery life will be worse when playing Mega Charger enabled games.
Anyway, today, I didn't think I would be waking up to Nintendo's mobile deal with DeNA. That's something that will be hit by butterflies. Of course, it all depends on the direction of mobile phone technology.
Regarding the future of Sunrise, hm, that's quite the question. Who would have the money to buy them up or take their staff?
Anyway, today, I didn't think I would be waking up to Nintendo's mobile deal with DeNA. That's something that will be hit by butterflies. Of course, it all depends on the direction of mobile phone technology.
Regarding the future of Sunrise, hm, that's quite the question. Who would have the money to buy them up or take their staff?
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