Player Two Start: An SNES-CD Timeline

[Lavanya Six]

“Has anyone noticed that Sega does 2-D games a lot better than Nintendo does or is that just me?”
-an anonymous poster on an InsideTheWeb.com video game forum

It's a pickle and a shame, that. A focus on artistry and style (in 2D) over raw (3D) graphical would play to the Saturn's strengths and give it a distinct identity from the Ultra, which it can't beat in terms of horsepower. However, I can't see Sega doing such a thing in this era. I get a sense that the SNES-CD had allowed for a more gradual introduction of 3D graphics and phase-out of 2D graphics, but in this particular era I think gamers and the gaming press would be biased towards thinking of any 3D graphics as "advanced" while even excellent 2D graphics would be somewhat "old-fashioned".

I wonder if the Saturn's reputation will benefit in the long-term (like, 2010+) from its ability to do excellent 2D graphics, resulting in games that hold up better over time. Early 3D graphics generally age poorly.

 

[Nivek]

It's a pickle and a shame, that. A focus on artistry and style (in 2D) over raw (3D) graphical would play to the Saturn's strengths and give it a distinct identity from the Ultra, which it can't beat in terms of horsepower. However, I can't see Sega doing such a thing in this era. I get a sense that the SNES-CD had allowed for a more gradual introduction of 3D graphics and phase-out of 2D graphics, but in this particular era I think gamers and the gaming press would be biased towards thinking of any 3D graphics as "advanced" while even excellent 2D graphics would be somewhat "old-fashioned".

I wonder if the Saturn's reputation will benefit in the long-term (like, 2010+) from its ability to do excellent 2D graphics, resulting in games that hold up better over time. Early 3D graphics generally age poorly.

You should think it, that is not comparing with to the time but general and in general show that point you mentioned it.

The Rest, we're in 3D revolutions and 3D dreams era, some games would looks 'bad' for our post millenial mindset but i grown up in that era and those game were milestones and still are and here with snes-cd being the one with 'ugly polygon', Saturn-Ultra 3D is more sophisticated, but still not sixth gen level.

 

[KamuiArchetype]

Phantasma, particularly Sumika and her storyline, has been absorbed into TTL's game. Master of Arena will probably show up in some form in the sequel which is coming in 2000.

Awesomesauce. So long as Nineball kicks ass ITL too.

Also coming in 2000.... Iron Batallion, AKA OTL's Steel Batallion with Layla, somewhat worse graphics...and yes, keeping that $200 controller from OTL.

I laughed.

Well, Tokimemo 3 is OTL's Tokimemo 2 basically. Huge, great graphics, multiple discs (3 instead of OTL's 5). We don't get it in the States because TTL's Tokimemo 2 wasn't up to snuff.

Holy crap, what the heck happened? Did Konami decide to skip on the romance and stat building and add some useless crap?

Aw hell, TTL's Tokimemo 2 came at the expense of Mitsumete Knight, didn't it? Mitsumete doesn't exist in this timeline b/c resources were allocated to Tokimemo 2 instead?

@AlexStansfield: New "Ask Alex" is up, I talk Tokimeki Memorial 3 and Samsung's weird new loyalty program...
-January 29, 2015 8:28 pm

@OohLookItsLyssa: @AlexStansfield re: your latest #AskAlex... Tokimemo is a dating sim, not a visual novel! #BakaGaijin
-January 29, 2015 9:07 pm

LEL.

 

[Nivek]

Awesomesauce. So long as Nineball kicks ass ITL too.

I laughed.

Holy crap, what the heck happened? Did Konami decide to skip on the romance and stat building and add some useless crap?

Aw hell, TTL's Tokimemo 2 came at the expense of Mitsumete Knight, didn't it? Mitsumete doesn't exist in this timeline b/c resources were allocated to Tokimemo 2 instead?

LEL.

Yeah Armored core is a little bigger and that helped sales both sides of pacific.

jejeje, what are your issues with Iron Franchise? we wanted a japanese game of mech combat, but again i think Iron name here would help a lot, of course people think was gimmicky but still a nice spin for capcom of all companies.

As Alex(and us indirectly) say, after tokimeki was a hit in both sided of pacific, konami wanted something to give an appetizer(remember tokimeki 1 was a pc-engine game, 2 is improved for snes-cd, a noticable jump, but 3 ITTL is more improved here) before a big tokimeki come, worked in japan but flunked out in the west...

Mitsumete Knight is in the backburner with big chances of being butterfly away, but here nothing is final....

Thanks for your comments, give us a lot of details and in-universe jokes

 

[HonestAbe1809]

I'm really hoping that the next Sonic game is going to be fantastic. Especially with the Ring potentially providing what the Mega Charger did for Sonic 3. The fact that the only female character in Mario is still a damsel in distress doesn't hurt either. I just want to see Amy Rose get the love she deserves. Being able to play her outside of specific missions would be good.

I've got an idea for a change to Banjo-Kazooie. A boss fight with the attractive Gruntilda. It'd be just after the machine steals Tooty's beauty, and it'd involve trying to reverse the process. Anything that gets more screen time for the sexy Gruntilda is good for me. Would the improved capabilities of the Ultra Nintendo give the game voice acting? Am I the only one who thinks that Grey DeLisle would be fantastic as the beautiful Gruntilda? Personally I'd want a way for Gruntilda to stay that way, since Tooty disappears after the first game anyway.

 

[RySenkari]

I'm really hoping that the next Sonic game is going to be fantastic. Especially with the Ring potentially providing what the Mega Charger did for Sonic 3. The fact that the only female character in Mario is still a damsel in distress doesn't hurt either. I just want to see Amy Rose get the love she deserves. Being able to play her outside of specific missions would be good.

I've got an idea for a change to Banjo-Kazooie. A boss fight with the attractive Gruntilda. It'd be just after the machine steals Tooty's beauty, and it'd involve trying to reverse the process. Anything that gets more screen time for the sexy Gruntilda is good for me. Would the improved capabilities of the Ultra Nintendo give the game voice acting? Am I the only one who thinks that Grey DeLisle would be fantastic as the beautiful Gruntilda? Personally I'd want a way for Gruntilda to stay that way, since Tooty disappears after the first game anyway.

The Dreamers, though sharing a lot of characters and a couple of elements with Banjo-Kazooie, isn't Banjo-Kazooie. But perhaps Gruntilda will be more beautiful in this game. You'll hear a lot more about it in June!

And as for Sonic 5, wait for 1999...

 

[HonestAbe1809]

The fact that you phrased it as "ugly green witch who is almost identical to OTL's Gruntilda" in the '97 E3 update makes me hope that she'll be more attractive in The Dreamers.

I'm hoping that Mortal Kombat Conquest will be better so as to open the door to better video game adaptation. At least better television adaptations of video games. Which probably would be a better way of adapting a game since you don't need to condense the plot to fit the framework of a movie. Games with massive universes like Fallout or deep lore like Silent Hill might do well with television adaptations. Especially if the Silent Hill show creates it's own story without rehashing plot elements. Even if Silent Hill itself is butterflied away doesn't mean that a similar concept couldn't work on television.

 

[Roger Redux]

I'm really hoping that the next Sonic game is going to be fantastic. Especially with the Ring potentially providing what the Mega Charger did for Sonic 3. The fact that the only female character in Mario is still a damsel in distress doesn't hurt either. I just want to see Amy Rose get the love she deserves. Being able to play her outside of specific missions would be good.

I probably wouldn't have minded playing as Amy in SA1 if she wasn't so slow. ITTL I think I'd actually rather play as Corona the Butterfly. Will there be a Knuckles' Renegades 2?

 

[HonestAbe1809]

I probably wouldn't have minded playing as Amy in SA1 if she wasn't so slow. ITTL I think I'd actually rather play as Corona the Butterfly. Will there be a Knuckles' Renegades 2?

The Sonic games still have a couple of playable female characters where Mario still has Peach be a damsel in distress. I don't remember it being mentioned how Amy plays in TTL, so you can easily take that as meaning "better than OTL".

 

[KamuiArchetype]

jejeje, what are your issues with Iron Franchise? we wanted a japanese game of mech combat, but again i think Iron name here would help a lot, of course people think was gimmicky but still a nice spin for capcom of all companies.

Nah, no issues, that huge ass controller just always gets me rolling on the floor laughing. I mean, I'm a mecha nut and I have tons of collectibles but that bulky controller...LOL, just screams goofy chuunibyou. I'd laugh at it even if they include it with any mecha game, no matter how good.

 

[RySenkari]

I LOVE the glorious Steel Battalion controller. I never actually got to play with it but I desperately want to There was no way I could butterfly it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOvN3iz3eXo

I'd play a remake of Xenogears with this thing!

 

[Nivek]

Nah, no issues, that huge ass controller just always gets me rolling on the floor laughing. I mean, I'm a mecha nut and I have tons of collectibles but that bulky controller...LOL, just screams goofy chuunibyou. I'd laugh at it even if they include it with any mecha game, no matter how good.

I refer to previous post of yourself about the game, you've been to critical the game.

Here yeah capcom decided both experiment yet playing safe with an old franchise(aka Capcom being Capcom), again the idea was being gimmicky and expermient, something they do OTL as MS payed for the game, here they got the cash with resident evil and wanted to try it. again would be a nice collector item.

I LOVE the glorious Steel Battalion controller. I never actually got to play with it but I desperately want to There was no way I could butterfly it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOvN3iz3eXo

I'd play a remake of Xenogears with this thing!

Yeah that was being experimental and try something new for a while, here would still being a collector item, but one nice collector item.

 

[Roger Redux]

I LOVE the glorious Steel Battalion controller. I never actually got to play with it but I desperately want to There was no way I could butterfly it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOvN3iz3eXo

I'd play a remake of Xenogears with this thing!

OH MY GOD!!!! I WANTS IT!
Seriously that just flipped ALL of my geek out switches. That thing is awesome!

Maybe ITTL make a lot more games compatible with it to justify the expense and the space it it takes up? Maybe a Metal Gear spin-off where you actually pilot a Metal Gear!

 

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

Maybe ITTL make a lot more games compatible with it to justify the expense and the space it it takes up? Maybe a Metal Gear spin-off where you actually pilot a Metal Gear!
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Um Gundam

 

[Golden Darkness]

Um Gundam

Not when Sega buys up Bandai, from where Sega systems get the majority of the anime/manga games.

Methinks Ultra and future Nintendo/Sony consoles will have to go without any licensed anime/manga games for the foreseeable future anyhow.

 

[Nivek]

Not when Sega buys up Bandai, from where Sega systems get the majority of the anime/manga games.

Methinks Ultra and future Nintendo/Sony consoles will have to go without any licensed anime/manga games for the foreseeable future anyhow.

Nice you noticed that, or won licensed they consider worth that salt, but that come later

 

[Pyro]

Greetings Gents and Ladies,

I just wanted to say I'm working on something big for my next contribution to the timeline. I cannot say what exactly because I am trying to finalize some details, but I think it will be my biggest yet.

 

[Miss Teri]

Greetings Gents and Ladies,

I just wanted to say I'm working on something big for my next contribution to the timeline. I cannot say what exactly because I am trying to finalize some details, but I think it will be my biggest yet.

Can't wait to see it.

 

[Goldwind2]

Do you like the idea of Nintendo buying a majortiy of share of tatsunoko productions in 2005 instead of Takara or maby nintendo merges with Takara instead of tomy.

 

[KamuiArchetype]

I refer to previous post of yourself about the game, you've been to critical the game.

Oh, I thought you meant the one with the controller. The first game's just me commenting on it not really offering much for Japan. Plus, the MC just pales compares to the female mecha pilots that Japan's seen already. For example, place her next to Noriko from Gunbuster and she's pretty vanilla.