Plausible Uralo-Romance/Altaio-Romance languages?

Gian

Banned
Another challenge for you. . .

Have a plausible way for the development of any language with an Italic/Romance superstratum and either a Uralic (Finnic, Samoyedic, Ugric) or Altaic (Turkic, Tungusic, Mongolic, Korean) substratum.

Also, provide any vocabulary if you can come up with one.
 
Several ideas.
  • Mongols conquer Japan. One of the southern islands sees the development of an Altaic language, probably Korean-derived. Later on, Spaniards, Portuguese, or French conquer Japan. A creole is formed.
  • Spanish, Portuguese, or French conquest of Korea. Creole forms.
  • Mongols conquer Japan. After doing so, they make it to the New World and spread their culture there, creating a Mesoamerican Altaic language. The Spanish, Portuguese, or French arrive in a few centuries and conquer the territory, taking advantage of the Mesoamericans' hate for their Altaic rulers. Also disease still occurs, with not much trans-Pacific contact after the first one. After the conquest, the Spanish slowly assimilate the Altaic Mesoamericans.
  • Nestorian Mongol Church Latin.
  • Altaic languages spread further west. Meanwhile, Romania either expands into the Steppe, or into the Eastern Roman Empire. They have Altaic slaves who speak a creole of Romanian origin.
 
Pannonian Latin survives and the Magyars are assimilated by Pannonian speakers when they arrive.
 
I think you're trying to get people to build your conlang for you, but this forum is mostly historians, not linguists.
 

FDW

Banned
Several ideas.
  • Mongols conquer Japan. One of the southern islands sees the development of an Altaic language, probably Korean-derived. Later on, Spaniards, Portuguese, or French conquer Japan. A creole is formed.
  • Spanish, Portuguese, or French conquest of Korea. Creole forms.
  • Mongols conquer Japan. After doing so, they make it to the New World and spread their culture there, creating a Mesoamerican Altaic language. The Spanish, Portuguese, or French arrive in a few centuries and conquer the territory, taking advantage of the Mesoamericans' hate for their Altaic rulers. Also disease still occurs, with not much trans-Pacific contact after the first one. After the conquest, the Spanish slowly assimilate the Altaic Mesoamericans.
  • Nestorian Mongol Church Latin.
  • Altaic languages spread further west. Meanwhile, Romania either expands into the Steppe, or into the Eastern Roman Empire. They have Altaic slaves who speak a creole of Romanian origin.

Japanese is an Altaic Language, so you don't need something that convoluted. A simple "Franco-Iberian conquest of Japan" (Saying that made me puke), would work within the definition of the challenge.
 
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