Plausibilty check: Spanish Valois instead of Spanish Habsburgs?

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So, would it be plausible for any POD after the unification of the Spanish monarchs under Isabel and Castile for the House of Valois to end up holding the Spanish throne, in addition to the France and/or Burgundy? Also, is it plausible for at any point that France and Spain end up in a Personal Union? What effects would a possible Franco-Spanish Union have on Europe and the rest of the world?
 
Most likely if such a thing happened the hapsburgs and britian would try to break that up because such a union would dominate Europe.
 
So, would it be plausible for any POD after the unification of the Spanish monarchs under Isabel and Castile for the House of Valois to end up holding the Spanish throne, in addition to the France and/or Burgundy?
It would be surprising : Castile tried at this time to forge an alliance against France, and searched good relations with potential or actual rivals of Valois.
It would be hard to change that, France being basically the only real threat to Castile then.

Also, is it plausible for at any point that France and Spain end up in a Personal Union? What effects would a possible Franco-Spanish Union have on Europe and the rest of the world?
Technically, with the good marriage (after Castilan Wars of Succession, by exemple) it *could* happen, but butterflies make virtually impossible to know how or when, or any context element.

Bourbons could have tried that at any point before the late XIXth century. But it would be either a cause for european war (violation of treaties passed by Louis XIV and Philip V) and very unlikely as the whole french aristocracy was opposed to that (they were opposed to push Philip V claims in first place) or a purely ceremonial union with national conciousness plainly developed in both countries.
 
During one of his many reverses of policy Ferdinand the Catholic marries Juanna 'la Loca' to his kinsman Federigo, King of Naples. When Louis XII comes a-conquering she falls into his hands (and arms ;)) - the marriage between the two strengthening his ill-fated attempt at holding Naples and offering peace with Ferdinand.

Obviously Ferdinand changes his mind by the next year, Louis loses Naples, which is subsumed into the Catholic monarchy.
The future Dauphin/Prince of Asturias imprisons any rival male heirs by his mother from her Neapolitan marriage (perhaps on a charge of bastardy, due to the parents' consaguinity), much like Ferdinand's father did to his Navarrese children.
 
Can we cheat and not have the Valois die out (e.g. Henry III or one of his brothers has sons), and then have them pursue similar marriage politics as the Bourbons, eventually leading to an alt-War of Spanish Succession?
 
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