Plausibility check and effects: Basque and Catalan influenced Mexico

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I want to do a plausibility check and possible effects if the Basque and the Catalan people establish settler colonies in Mexico along with other people from Spain, ending up totally around 80-90% of Mexican and Central American population with around 40% of that population of Basque and another around 40% Catalan. And the rest 20% Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, etc. And this population has a proportion of ancestry from assimilated Natives. Culture is a hybrid of European and Native. Language spoken is mostly Basque, Catalan and Spanish but Native languages exist in families with close relationships with the Natives and a Native nobility ancestry, even if mostly European now.

Outside the 80+% of the European population, is a large minority population of Native Americans, Mestizo, African, Arab/Middle Eastern, Indian, etc who are well assimilated. Majority religion is Roman Catholicism. Country stretches from Mexico border to parts of Central America.

How plausible is this nation that runs on this timeline? And what would be the effects on USA, Europe, the Americas as a whole and the World?
 

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Not very plausible. The Spanish discouraged non Castilians to arrive to the colonies for some reason I can't remember, the Mexican population is too high, Catalonia itself was not keen on immigration due it being comparatively wealthy and urbanized, most of the people initialy settling were private ventures who were installed as overlords alongside local allies, and most Spanish that came settled in cities rather than the countryside creating a noticable division amongst natives and settlers.

You can certainly get more settlement in Mexico, especially Catalans in the 1700s but it wont make a demographic majority. Maybe an important minority.
 
Not very plausible. The Spanish discouraged non Castilians to arrive to the colonies for some reason I can't remember, the Mexican population is too high, Catalonia itself was not keen on immigration due it being comparatively wealthy and urbanized, most of the people initialy settling were private ventures who were installed as overlords alongside local allies, and most Spanish that came settled in cities rather than the countryside creating a noticable division amongst natives and settlers.

You can certainly get more settlement in Mexico, especially Catalans in the 1700s but it wont make a demographic majority. Maybe an important minority.
There were actually quite a few Basques that emigrated to the Americas. Many of the later independence movement leaders like Bolivar and Iturbide were of Basque descent. I myself, a Salvadoran American, have a Basque last name.
 

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Okay, so say we have a settled White Majority Mexico+Central America. What do you think could be the ratio of the Spanish and the Non-Spanish settlers and within Spanish nationals, ratio of the Basque and Catalans to the Castillians?
 
Not very plausible. The Spanish discouraged non Castilians to arrive to the colonies for some reason I can't remember, the Mexican population is too high, Catalonia itself was not keen on immigration due it being comparatively wealthy and urbanized, most of the people initialy settling were private ventures who were installed as overlords alongside local allies, and most Spanish that came settled in cities rather than the countryside creating a noticable division amongst natives and settlers.

You can certainly get more settlement in Mexico, especially Catalans in the 1700s but it wont make a demographic majority. Maybe an important minority.
Catalonia was one of the poorest regions in Spain until the XVIII century which coincides with the largest peaks of Catalonian emigration (mainly to Cuba).
Basques (it is a modern term) were considered and considered themselves Castillians until a century and a half ago andbhad plenty of priviledges for being old Castillians. Plenty of Basques settled in the Andean region of Colombia and Chile and you can see their influence there.
 
There were actually quite a few Basques that emigrated to the Americas. Many of the later independence movement leaders like Bolivar and Iturbide were of Basque descent. I myself, a Salvadoran American, have a Basque last name.
Most Catalans and Basques most likely integrated into Mexican main populance instead of keeping language and identity. So did Germans, Russians, Italian and Irishmen.
 
There were actually quite a few Basques that emigrated to the Americas. Many of the later independence movement leaders like Bolivar and Iturbide were of Basque descent. I myself, a Salvadoran American, have a Basque last name.

Yeah, there was a decent amount of Basque immigration into the Americas. A lot of the first conquistadors in the Americas were Basque. I also have my share of Basque ancestry, with my maternal great grandmother (Dominican) having the Basque last name Uribe (apparently two of my second cousins through that side of the family were major league baseball players, so that's kind of cool).
 
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