Platinean War 1942-1945

Thomas27

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Hi everybody,

I'm member since few days and I'll post one of my WIP Timeline.
(Download PDF here)
It's a part of an Alternate History univers called "The Century of the Apocalypse".

To gave a better idea of this universe I'll give you some elements:

-The France Fight On from the North Africa.
-At the end of 1944 Japan and USA will sign a bloody peace.

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Like I've said, this timeline is still WIP, I'm open to help and suggestion from you because you're most experienced than me about AH and History.
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Platinean War 1942 – 1945
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1942 :


August 30 : At midnight without warning Argentina, at the request of Hitler, attack Brazil, which established
close relationships with the Allies, especially the United States and the United Kingdom. Argentina under american blocus because of his good relations with Germany which helped militarist and fascist desire, with German military and technological assistance finally convinced Argentina to attack his rival Brazil. This is an opportunity to conquer new territory for Argentina and Hitler hoped that the U.S. distract a part of their war effort to help Brazil. At 9:00 am the 1st Submarines Flotilla on patrol off the coast of Argentina while brazilian surface ships are attacked by Argentine bombers. Between 12:00 and 15:00 on 1o Grupo de Caça (1st Fighter Group) engages argentinean bombers over Porto Alegre and succeed to push them. Brazil decided to concentrate its limited military resources in battles against Argentina as Peru and Bolivia will have to attack through the difficult terrain of Amazonia where there is no strategic objectives, and at its maximum advanced Peruvian army will never reach Manaus.
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September 1 : Bolivia and Peru announced their alliance with Argentina and start throwing recon in Amazonia.

September 2 : At 13:00 the beginning of a naval battle between Brazil and Argentina in the waters of Blanca Bay.

September 3 : At 1:00 pm the brazilian fleet withdraws and leaves the Argentinean a tactical victory without glory, neither fleet has suffered loss.

September 4 : The German U-boats arrived in Mar del Plata, aboard: SS military advisors, 1500 tons of arms and ammunition and plans and specimen of arms.

September 13 : As Hitler had hoped the U.S. sends arms and ammunition in Brazil. Roosevelt secretly prepares the sending of expeditionary forces.

September 19 Between 7:00 pm and 9:00 pm the 1st Fighter Group engages Argentinean bombers over Porto Alegre and manages to push again, but its offensive potential begins to get closer to its limits. Argentinean bombers have been able to drop a single bomb on Porto Alegre. Meanwhile the 1st Corps of the Argentine General Marquez is heading to Porto Alegre, the corps is composed of the armored brigade "Rodriguez" and infantry brigades "Pellegrini", "San Martin" and "Krausse" accompanied by two detachments of artillery and one engineer detachment.

September 21 : Via the U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull, Ecuador secretly gives military access to Brazil.

September 23 : At the dawn of the 3rd Corps of General Martinez (1st Cavalry Brigade and the 13th Infantry Brigade backed by an artillery brigade and engineers) attempt a breakthrough towards Curitiba to take a position on the flank of the troops Brazilian defending Porto Alegre and surroundings them. Curitiba is defended by the 1st and 2nd Infantry Divisions and an artillery brigade under the command of General de Assis. Porto Alegre is defended by the 4th Corps of the General Dennys composed of the 197th Tank Division and the 8th, 14th and 15th Infantry Division supported each by artillery brigade.

September 26 : Opposed to an heroic defense of the troops of General de Assis, General Martinez’s 3rd Corps stop its offensive on Curitiba from 1:00 pm and begins to retreat after suffering heavy losses without great progress: 758 dead and over 2200 injured on the brazilian side against 1452 killed and 4300 wounded on the argentinean side. Defenders of Porto Alegre begin a strategic withdrawal because they are running out of supplies, they will fall back along the lines of the French example of the summer of 1940 and will pay dearly for every meter of land to Argentina.

October 2 : The 1st Corps of General Marquez reached Porto Alegre downtown but continue to suffer losses in various ambushes.

October 3 : In Washington; ambassadors of Paraguay, Ecuador, Chile and Brazil are received by President Roosevelt and Secretaries Stimson and Hull to negotiate an alliance against Argentina, Peru and Bolivia.

October 5 : Paraguay, Ecuador and Chile declares war on the side of Brazil and will also receive weapons and ammunition from the United States. Brazil gives the U.S. the right to establish a naval base in Recife to deliver aid more effectively and possible military expeditionary forces. At the same time the 12th Infantry Division of the brazilian General Leite de Castro attempted an attack against bolivian positions Perseverancia.

Ocotober 6 : Shortly before sunrise, the 3rd Corps of General Martinez reiterates its attack on Curitiba, brasiliean General de Assis retreated at 11:00 am and launch counterattack at 1:00 pm before retreating again at 5:00 pm. In Porto Alegre 1st Corps of General Marquez continues to be harassed by groups of retardation and regularly fall into an ambush.

October 7 : End of the Battle of Perseverancia with a severe defeat to the brazilians. The ratio of loss is 1 to 10 in favor of Bolivia either 65 bolivian dead against 623 brazilian dead.
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October 8 : The 199th Tank Division of General Castelo Branca attack the flanks of the argentinean army attacking Curitiba.

October 10 : While facing fierce resistance and
supply line in danger, General Marquez decides to stop the offensive of the 1st Corps and fight back. Near Curitiba the 3rd Corps of General Martinez fall back facing the 1st Army and the 199th Tank Division. This day ends the Battle of Rio Grande. Fighting between 8 and 10 October done 671 dead and about 2,000 injured on brasilian side against 1373 dead and more than 4,000 injured on argentinean side. The argentinean troops will withdraw to Concordia and Corrientes for the winter to be reconstituted and resupplied.

November 1 : U.S. base in Recife hosts a U.S. convoy and 3 small fleets responsible for protecting the Brazilian coast. American freighters unload Curtiss P-36 Hawk to reequip the first brazilian Fighter Group. It’s also the arrival of the 1st U.S. Expeditionary Force composed of 3rd Expeditionary Armored Division, 1st Expeditionary Infantry Division, 2nd Infantry Division Expeditionary supported by artillery and engineering brigade. This will be the 1st expeditionary force under the command of General Costa è Silva.

November 2 : Hitler announcement to Argentine President Ramon Castillo that he will send the Kriegsmarine’s U-Boot to protect argentinean coast.

November 25 : The modest argentinean navy succeeds to sink or damage the entire skinny brazilian submarines fleet.

December 14 : The eastern Paraguay is again fully under the control of the paraguayan army and Brazil regained full control of the territories invaded by Argentina.



1943 :

January 1 : Arrival in Recife of the 2nd U.S. Expeditionary Force composed of the 3rd Expeditionary Infantry Division and the 4th Expeditionary Infantry Division and an engineer brigade. This expeditionary force will be placed under the command of General Plinio Pitaluza.

January 3 : Arrival of the 3rd U.S. Expeditionary Force composed of the 5th Expeditionary Infantry Division and 6th Expeditionary Infantry Division and an engineer brigade. This expeditionary force will be placed under the command of General Barata de Azevedo.

January 9 : Beginning of the formation of the "Cuerpo Bolivar," a argentinian infantry division to be placed under the command of General Franco Rafel which should be operational in Santa Cruz by the summer.

January 14 : The brazilian armies march on Concordia to open the road of Buenos Aires. Brazil lines up: the 4th Corps General Dennys, the 1st U.S. Expeditionary Force of General Costa è Silva and the 2nd U.S. Expeditionary Force of General Barata de Azevedo. Concordia is defended by the 1st Corps of General Marquez and 7th Corps of General Lugones (2nd Infantry Division "San Martin" and the 3rd Infantry Division "Pellegrini" not to be confused with the brigades of the same name). During this time, Brazil is preparing an offensive to Corrientes with General de Assis 1st Army, the 199th Tank Division of General Castelo Branca and 2nd Army of General Mascarenhas de Morais (3rd Infantry Division and 92th Cavalry Division). Corrientes is defended by the 3rd Corps of General Martinez and the 2nd Corps of General Florit (6th Mountain Brigade "Villega" and 4th Mountain Brigade).

January 15 : Beginning of the Battle of Concordia.

February 4 : Tefé in Amazonia fell to the peruvian army without a fight. As predicted by the brasilian Chief of Staff of Gaspar Dutra, peruvians have needed several months to cross the rainforest where the climate and fauna have killed many soldiers. The bolivian army crossed the border towards Rio Branco
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February 7 : Rio Branco falls into the hands of the bolivian army without fighting.

February 16 : The bolivian army reached the gates of Porto Velho defended by the 10th Infantry Division of General Teixeira Lott and the 11th Infantry Division of General Segadas Viana both supported by two artillery brigades. Bolivians inadequately supplied and depleted by weather retreated out of brasilian artillery range after a recon mission. The Battle of Porto Velho will make no deads on both sides
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February 22 : After a month and a half of fighting, Brazil provides complete control of Concordia and its surroundings. Brazilians count 708 deads and over 2100 woundeds in their ranks, the argentinean deplore 3 times more casualties with 2080 deads and over 6,200 injureds. Consequently Argentina will struggle to replace its losses and ensure full supply of its troops because the 3rd Reich will have more and more difficulty to provide aid to Argentina.
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February 24 : The 3nd U.S. Expeditionary Force General Barata de Azevedo make its junction with the garrison of Porto Velho to prepare the counterattack towards Bolivia.


February 27 : Without any supplies bolivian troops retreated towards their border in order to shorten their supply lines.

March 15 : Bolivian troops arrived few days earlier in Persverancia still don’t have resupply and entrench themselves because the brazilians are close behind.


March 16 : 3nd U.S. Expeditionary Force, 10th and 11th Infantry Divisions attack Perseverancia. Bolivians running out of ammo begin a retreat to Riberalta in the evening after losing 251 soldiers and abandoned some of their 800 wounded behind them. Brazilian troops only count 61 dead and less than 200 injured
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May 3 : Peruvian troops run along the Rio Solimoes towards Manaus are engaged by a reconnaissance group of the 9th Infantry Division who will urge to inform the Manacaparu’s garrisons of the peruvian advance. There are 11 brasilians dead and 13 on peruvian side. It is also the first time that an amazonian indian is photographed while serving in a recon group of the Brazilian Army
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June 4 : Populist coup in Argentina ending the "infamous decade". Ramón Castillo was overthrown by the GOU (Grupo Unidos of Oficiales or United Officers Group). Arturo Rawson takes power
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June 5 : Beginning of the battle Corenties that pits the 1st Army, 199th Tank Division and the 2nd Army against 3rd Corps and the 2nd Mountain Corps.

June 6 : The 3rd Corps, the 13th and the 9th Infantry Division entrenched in Manacaparu to receive curtly the single peruvian division already exhausted by his journey in Amazonia. Peruvian decides to return to their borders disobeying a Staff unable to provide supplies and reinforcements. Brazilians deplore 91 dead and 300 wounded, while the Peruvian lose 251 soldiers and count more than 1200 wounded
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June 7 : Argentinean retreat of Corrientes, out of ammunition argentineans withdrew in the direction of Rosario. There’s 492 dead and 1200 injured on brasilian sidel against 1500 killed 566 injured for Argentina. Arturo Rawson is removed from power by the rest of the GOU, Pedro Pablo Ramírez seized power
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June 10 : Massive endowment of U.S. M1 rifles in the Brazilian Army.


June 14 : The 3rd Corps of General Carvalho Leite and 3rd U.S. Expeditionary Force of General Barata de Azevedo attacking Riberalta in Bolivia.


June 19 : Riberalta fell to the brazilian troops who paid dearly for their victory with 1221 dead and 3600 wounded, defenders have "only" 929 deaths, but more than 4600 injured.


July 14 : The 3rd brazilian Corps cross the Rio Solimoes and prepares to regain Tefê.


August 3 : The 3rd Corps attack Tefe.


August 5 : Beginning of the Battle of Loreto. Ecuadorian, Brazilian and U.S. troops will combine their efforts to conquer the northern region of Peru, this battle will run until 19 February 1945. At the same time the peruvian garrison of Tefê surrender to the brazilian 3rd Corps, losses were 91 dead and about 300 injured for Brazil against 236 dead and 800 wounded for Peru
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August 27 : The city of Santa Fe falls without fighting.


September 17 : Beginning of the Battle of Pando in northern Bolivia.


October 21 : Beginning of the brasilian offensive on the city of Rosario. Brazil engages the 1st Army (General de Assis), the 2nd Army (General Mascarenhas de Morais) and 199th Tank Division (General Castelo Branca) against the 3rd Corps (General Martinez), the 2nd Corps Mountain (General Florit) and militias trained on the job.
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December 5 : Reorganization of the brazilian government: Pedro Leao Veloso was appointed Minister of the Interior, Filinto Muller takes the head of the intelligence services and Mario Silva Camargo became head of the General Staff of the Army.


December 7 : End of the Battle of Pando. There are 498 dead and over 1200 injured on Allied side against 5706 dead and 19,000 wounded for the Axis.
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1944 :


January 17 : U.S. Navy lands the 4th U.S. Expeditionary Force composed of 7th and 8th Expeditionary Infantry Division Expeditionary and an enginners brigade. This force will be commanded by General Aurélio de Monteiro and join Concordia to prepare the offensive on Buenos Aires.


January 26 : Argentine President Pedro Pablo Ramírez began secret negotiations with the Allies to try to put an end to war.


February 24 : General Edelmiro Julián Farrell overthrow President Pedro Pablo Ramírez and put an end to negotiations with the Allies.


May 2 :
Brazilian troops attack Rio Branco where a peruvian division is entrenched.

May 7 : Peruvians in Rio Branco surrenders. Losses are 139 killed and 400 wounded for brazilians against 322 deaths and 1,000 woundedfor the peruvians
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Mai 28 : Chilean and brazilian troops attack the province of Cordoba, which is defended only by some militias.


June 2 : The essential part of the province of Cordoba is controlled by the Allies who deplores 735 dead and 1700 injured. Argentine have 1852 dead and 5500 injured
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June 24 : Beginning of the Battle of Buenos Aires, the city is defended by the 1st Corps, 2nd Mountain Corps, 3rd Corps 7th Corps and the 1st Paratrooper Corps. The Allies attacked with the 1st, 2nd and 4th U.S. Expeditionary Forces and the 4th brasilian Corps
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July 4 : End of the first b
razilian offensive against Buenos Aires. There are 4902 dead and 13,000 injured for the brazilians against 6697 dead 21,000 wounded for the argentineans. The latter decide to start evacuating the city .

October 19 : 1st Paratrooper Corps of General Ibarra ready to fight. This unit trained by instructors from german SS of have the size of a division. This elite division entrained during one year will never take part in an airborne operation during this war
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November 14 : Beginning of the second offensive on Buenos Aires which is defended only by the 1st Paratrooper Corps and Groups "Misiones" and "Formosa" of the Gendarmerie Force. The rest of the Argentine army start a long journey to establish a line of defense on the Rio Negro to try to definively stop Allies
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November 22 : Fall of Buenos Aires, the remnants of the 1st Paratrooper Corps is annihilated, the Gendarmerie troops surrenders. Argentine losses during this second offensive are 16,026 dead and over 80,000 wounded against 3,062 dead and 10,000 wounded on the Allies forces.

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1945 :


January 5 : The argentinean Staff understand that the war will be lost, they decided to practice the technic of Scorched Earth and to make the Allies pay the price of blood for every inch of ground.


January 9 : Arrival of the 5th U.S. Expeditionary Force (9th and 10th Expeditionary Infantry Division and a Enginer brigade) under the command of General Perdra Pires and go to the East to fight Peru and Bolivia. 30 T34 Calliope are also disembarked to join the argentinean front
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January 29 : Beginning of the Battle of La Paz. The last troops defending Bolivia are entrenched in the city and its surroundings
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February 19 :
End of the Battle of Loreto, peruvian troops unable to retreat surrenders after a year and a half battle made ambush and harassment. The Allies will have lost 1846 men and over 9,000 injured, the strong peruvians defense cost them 3417 deaths and more than 17,000 injured.
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February 20 : The ecuadorian army tries a breakthrough towards Trujillo in Peru.


February 23 : Ecuadorians stop their attack to Trujillo, which is still strongly defended.


February 26 : Surrender of Bolivia and the end of the Battle of La Paz which has made 6,613 dead 20,000 wounded in Allies ranks against 14,100 dead and 70,000 injured for the Axis.


February 28 : Fall of Rosario. On the argentinean sides the 1st Brigade of the 3rd Cavalry Corps were annihilated as well as the 4th Brigade of the 2nd Corps Mountain, losses were 16,818 dead and 50,000 wounded in the ranks of Argentina for 8499 dead and 25,000 wounded for the Allies. Argentinean survivors flee to Rio Negro pursued by the Brazilian who want to secure Mar del Plata and Bahia Blanca on the east coast.


March 5: Fall of Mar del Plata, with 228 dead and 600 wounded for the Allies against 1002 dead and 3000 injured for Argentina.


April 10: Fall of Bahia Blanca with 1317 dead and 4000 injured for the Allies against 4219 dead and 13,000 injured for Argentina.


May 9: The ecuadorian army attack Trujillo again, this time the troops are better prepared and supplied.


May 12: Defenders of Trujillo surrender after three days of fierce fighting facing the 1st Infantry Brigade and the 1st Infantry Division of the ecuadorians.
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May 23: Arrival of the 6th U.S. Expeditionary Force which landed directly in Bahia Blanca. The Force is composed by the the 1st Expeditionary Ranger Division, 2nd Expeditionary Ranger Division, 1st Marine Expeditionary Division, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Division, 9th Expeditionary Infantry Division and an enginer brigade. The whole force is under the command of General Fiuza de Castro.


June 6: All the Argentine troops are entranched behind the Rio Negro, this defense is formed by the scattered 6th Mountain Brigade "Villega", the sixth Gendarmerie group "Formosa", the 2nd Infantry Division "San Martin" the 3rd Infantry Division "Pellegrini", the 13th infantry Brigade and the 4th infantry Division. The defence is commanded by General Marquez. Across the Allies line up: 4th Corps, 1st Army, 200th Tank Division, the 5th U.S. Expeditionary Force in the East and 2nd Army, the 1st, 4th and 6th Expeditionary Forces in the West. Consequently the Argentines will undergo constant artillery barrage include T34 Calliope with incendiary rockets.


June 11: Beginning of the Battle of Cuzco conducted by the 3rd U.S. Expeditionary Force, 10th and 11th brazilian Infantry Division.


July 1: Brazilian and American troops complete the conquest of the province of Cuzco which has cost 1,713 dead and 4,000 wounded to the Allies against 2971 dead and 14,000 wounded for Peru.


July 8: The 3rd Corps, the 12th and 13th Infantry Division attack the province of Erequipa in southern Peru.


July 14: The allies - with the 3rd U.S. Expeditionary Force, 10th and 11th Infantry Division, 3rd Corps, the 12th Infantry Division, 13th Infantry Division and the 1st Infantry Brigade and 1st Ecuadorian infantry Division - encircle the Lima area defended by the 1st Bolivar Brigade, 1st Bolivar Division, 1st "Bolognes" Division, the reserve infantry division, the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th infantry divisions and 1st "Fuerza Special" Brigade.


July 16: The province of Erequipa is conquered. All the troops defending Peru fall back towards Lima after suffering 1188 dead and 6000 injured. When the Allies have 734 dead and 1700 injured.


July 27: Following the recommendations of his Staff, the Peruvian President announces capitulation of his nation.

August 11: The General Marquez announces capitulation of his defense troops and arrested the government members to constrain them to accept the defeat of Argentina.


August 12: General Marquez is recognized by the Allies as holder of political authority in Argentina and sign the Treaty of Viedma on a U.S. artificial bridge that spans the Rio Negro. The signatory for Brazil is Eurico Gaspar Dutra, Chief of the Army.

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Consequences:

After the signing of the Treaty of Viedma, the South American countries of the Axis dismantle their governments and pledge to hold democratic elections and to pay war reparations. All countries involved recover their original borders.

This war will not prevent the establishment of the populist and / or military dictatorships.

There will be many polemics about the many exactions committed against civilians by the belligerents.


Losses :

Estimation that many think far from reality. For example, the injured died after the Treaty of Viedma are not recognized as combat deaths. Losses among amazonian indians
are not included, even if they serves as a guide for the Brazilian troops, died in battle or attacked by invaders who pillaged their villages to find food and potable water.
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I'd like to see how the the rest of the war goes.

France fighting on from North Africa means major changes to the European war?
What leads to the early peace with Japan? What are the gains?

What happens post war?
 

Thomas27

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Would this cement Brazil for earlier industrialization/great power status/a seat at the UN Security Council?
Earlier Industrialization: Yes, but nothing amazing
a seat at the UN Security Council: Yes, but later

France fighting on from North Africa means major changes to the European war?
What leads to the early peace with Japan? What are the gains?
means major changes to the European war?: Yea, because germany will understand the lessons taught by the French sacrifice and will laucnh Barbarossa later.
Allies will have overlord and dragoon, italian campaign. Also an operation in Norway and Dodecanese...


Following the Allied landing in Normandy, instead of throwing sparsely to meet their enemies, the forces of the Reich build on the Seine and the Loire to canalize Allied progression. These forward from Bayeux to Caen, Alençon and Lisieux, Evreux, Dreux, Chartres, and finally Paris. Several Kamfpgruppen delay them.
German divisions entrench themselves on the Escaut river , the Meuse and from Netherlands to the Vosges. The Siegfried Line was strengthened. Allies com from the Mediterranean to Strasbourg. Several panzer divisions can go to the eastern front, but the Siegfried Line is good.
Americans completely free France, Belgium and trying to breakthrough in Holland and Freiburg.
The Germans counter-attack on Eindoven, Luxembourg and Thionville. A big battle without convincing results took place Utrecht...

Finally the A bomb will be used on Germany


What leads to the early peace with Japan? What are the gains?
After the defeat of Midway, Admiral Yamamoto and some other high ranking officer and politics undertsand that the war can't bee win and decide to launch a plan to push the US to attack earlier in the pacific.
For that, the japanese troops retreat from Attu, Kiska and the south pacific to entrench themeselves at Formosa, Palau, Guam, Saipan and Iwo Jima. The combined fleet launch an audacious strike on the british military facilities in India an help the Indian National Army of Subhas Chandra Bose to launch a rebellion against the colonial autorithy. And by the way they cut supplies line from the Allies to Chang Kai Shek. The Japanese alsso reduce the chinese front. Without their common ennemy, the Chinese Unit Front falls apart and the war beetwin Communist and Nationalist restart. Japan will provide some aid to Mao all for create a panic in Allies rank and push the US to advance earlier in the pacific.
At end of 1944: US will strike Formosa, Saipan, Guam, Iwo Jima and Palau. The result is an epic bloodbath for both camp. At this time the U.S. are ready to consider a negotiated peace rather than unconditional surrender.

I've still a lot of work and research to do on this timeline, but be sure the cold war and the modern era will intense too.
 

Thomas27

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Hehe^^ thanks a lot.
I've a lot of idea, History is an amazing playground.

Its there any "Presentation" thread? I did'nt find it.
 
Excellent timeline! Good amount of detail. I look forward to seeing how this affects the rest of the war. Just wondering, why were Peru and Bolivia the ones to ally with Argentina- were they diplomatically close around this time, historically? And was this scenario inspired at all by the game Hearts of Iron II?
 

Thomas27

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Excellent timeline! Good amount of detail. I look forward to seeing how this affects the rest of the war. Just wondering, why were Peru and Bolivia the ones to ally with Argentina- were they diplomatically close around this time, historically? And was this scenario inspired at all by the game Hearts of Iron II?

Thank you.
Firstly I was inspired by the Chaco War (1932-1935), therefore I've start to wright my timeline, after that I've seen there was this scenario in HOI II(Arsenal of Democracy), therefore I've done some simulation with the game to testing some hypothesis.

I'll make some update in the goming days when I've finish to upgrading my computer.
 
I have to say, this is one of the best timelines I've seen on the board, let alone the fact that this is your first time. Excellent job!

Some thoughts-I don't believe that the combined fleet raiding India after Midway would have much affect on the loyalness of the Indians to the British. IOTL, the Indians were starving due to the loss of Burma, but that didn't push them over the edge. You'd probably need to see the British attempt operation culverin(and lose horribly) for their military presence to be reduced enough for an all out rebellion. However, a very good TL:)
 

Thomas27

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I have to say, this is one of the best timelines I've seen on the board, let alone the fact that this is your first time. Excellent job!
Thank you. I'm surprised of my succes because english isn't my maternal language. That's maybe my first timeline but before posting it I've work alot because fear of ridiculing me in front of the members of the forum

Some thoughts-I don't believe that the combined fleet raiding India after Midway would have much affect on the loyalness of the Indians to the British. IOTL, the Indians were starving due to the loss of Burma, but that didn't push them over the edge. You'd probably need to see the British attempt operation culverin(and lose horribly) for their military presence to be reduced enough for an all out rebellion. However, a very good TL:)
I note it, I've still to reflect about this part of the timeline and pursuing my research.
 

Thomas27

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Hello,

Sorry for the absence of update.
My internet connection is down (I write this message from my office).

I've some potential update for the Plantinean War Timelines. But if some of you have some idea, correctionor anything else please let my know.
 
Oh, so this is not OTL so much as a setting where things have already changed, in such a way that would make this likely. Did I read it correctly that this is the France Fights On setting?
 
Oh, so this is not OTL so much as a setting where things have already changed, in such a way that would make this likely. Did I read it correctly that this is the France Fights On setting?
Oh yeah... I forgot about France fighting on... the PoD is before the Rio Protocol.
 
Ok, well I'll await the author's confirmation.

I like the idea of a war in the Southern Cone, I just need to understand how we get to that point before I can enjoy it!
 

Thomas27

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There is multiple divergence.

Fistly the FRANCE doesn't surrender in 1940. I'll study the Rio protocol when my home internet connection where back. To know if it' protocol is present in my TL.
 
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