Photos of the New Order

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  1. freivolk Well-Known Member

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    The Winnetou Revolution
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    Its impossible for foreigners to understand the impact the Karl-May-movies of the late sixties had on german society under the Speer-regime. Especialy Americans, who watch the Winnetou-movies, just see a B-western, in which the Crimea-peninsula and ukrainian peasant in redface tried to cosplay as the Wild West and american Indians. But for many Germans the movies represent the fundamental change of the country after Speer´s victory in the GCW. The first time since 1933, Winnetou, a person of a non-white race was presented as equal and actually more noble then aryan people. Maybe much more incredible was, that the movies included a mixed-race relationship between german hero Old Shatterhand.played by Götz George, and Winnetou´s sister Ntscho-Tschi.
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    It changed nothing on the impact, that the Indian characters were played by white actors, like french Pierre Brice as Winnetou and german actress Uschi Glass as his sister. Natural it was also highly symbolic, that Brice, a former resistance fiMghter against the Burgundians, and Götz George,a member of a Speer-militia, played best friends and blood-brotherss in the movies. But to fully understand all, you must knew the role of Karl Mays work in the Third Reich.
    Karl Mays (1842-1912)books are till today the most famous youth novels in Germany. Still their symphathy for "lower" races made them problematic for the Nazis. Ironicly Hitler himself was a huge fan of Winnetou and protected the books from a ban. Still in the late 1950th Martin Borman, who disliked May for his catholic mysticism and pacifism, pressed for a ban. There iis a legend, that a public burning of Mays book let to a first massiv youth protest. At least authentic RSHA-reports certfie, that the slogan "Winnetou darf nicht sterben" was more and more written on walls. During the GCW Speer miltias called themselve "Winnetous Rache" or "Bärenfett-Brigade". Speer-partisans in Saxony were called "Apatschen". One of this young "Apatchen", Joschka Fischer, later claimed: "We couldn´t have won the war without Winnetou. We couldn´t have won the peace without Winnetou!" That is maybe a bit much, but to some degree, it was really Winnetou´s revolution.
     
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  2. Medibee Rallies 'round the flag

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    Considering the options that Heydrich has for handling protesters I wouldn't put it past Burgundy to just drop nerve gas on the protesters.
     
  3. RandomWriter Actually a total dork.

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    THE HISTORY OF HERMANN GÖRING’S REICH: PART ONE.


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    German troops preparing for Operation Tannenbaum.
    History has long regarded the curious case of Hermann Göring as one of humanity’s great peculiarities. To some, he was a second Alexander the Great. To others, he was a raving lunatic of a despot. However, the actual portrait of Hermann Göring is much different.

    Namely, a man in over his head.

    To understand the true nature of Göring’s Reich, we must go back to the time before Hitler’s death.

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    Hermann Göring, future second Furher of Germany.
    While Speer managed to gain traction amongst the few reformers in the Reichstag, Göring originally wanted to woo the conservatives, given he himself actually didn’t want to work with the die hard militarists in the first place.

    Ironically, Göring himself didn’t want to start very many wars at all, continuing to be wary of military action.

    However, Göring’s plans to woo the conservatives failed due to several factors.

    • The Meddling of Hans Speidel, a war hero who was beloved by the Reich. While a reformer like Speer, he was a more reluctant one and several conservatives could get along with him.
    • The meddling of Adolf Hitler himself. While growing in senility and isolation from the Reichstag, he continued to keep a paranoid eye on his subordinates, and saw Göring attempting to insert himself firmly in the conservative bloc as “concerning.”
    • The meddling of his rival among the conservatives and eventual victor of the political power struggles in the Conservative Bloc, Martin Bormann. A man with incredible control over access to Hitler, Bormann quickly caught onto Hitler’s worries and aided in increasing his paranoia.
    As such, Göring was out of options with the conservatives, a majority of which flocked to Bormann.

    This left him with only one option were he to remain a viable contender for the Reich: The Military.

    Göring flocked to the warhawks and young fanatical officer corpse of the successfully radicalized portions of the German youth, and began quoting their rhetoric. Making his own speeches of the Reich’s superiority. Entrenching himself with them, Göring quickly became the popular candidate for the fanatical camp of the Nazis.

    Then, Hitler on his deathbed declared Reinhard Heydrich, a proud supporter of Spartanism and Burgundian Values, his heir.

    The reaction was instantaneous.

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    One of multiple protests by Speer’s supporters, which regular police departments did their best to slow, or subtly supported them. Heydrich’s response to the marchers was to inform SS divisions to respond with gunfire. The exact number of student deaths remains unknown.
    Albert Speer went into hiding, leading his student movement from safety while at the same time preparing his own route out of Europe in case things went wrong. Martin Bormann in the meantime, used his political clout and the conservative majority in the Reichstag to stonewall any of Heydrich’s suggestions, while planning his own more popular resistance.

    However Göring’s own declaration to resist Heydrich was supported by the veterans. The hard liners. The young fanatical nazis who bashed student movement protestors in the streets.

    Entire military divisions, along with members of the Kreigsmarne and the majority of the Luftwaffe prepared for the moment.

    It was in this political climate of riots, murders, and preparations that Adolf Hitler went into cardiac arrest.

    Approximately a single week passed before the German Civil War started, and Heydrich’s hardened SS divisions had to deal with a single fact:

    Namely their lack of popularity all across Germany. It was incredibly hard for them to hold territory without student divisions, Hitler Youth, and young military divisions managing to slip in and cause plenty of damage, supported by popular resistance.

    Their response to the sabotage and resistance was even more brutal excesses which led to more resistance.

    It was not long before Heydrich was recalled to Burgundy, and was welcomed by a firing squad.

    This left Bormann, Speer, and Göring fighting while Speidel held Germania.

    Though Speer had international support from members of the OFN, other members worked to hamper him and the support was unpopular amongst Germans.

    Though Bormann had more widespread support among Germans, Speer had many parts of the Kreigsmarne and cut off any shipments from any loyalists in the RKs, and Göring had air superiority.

    However, the thing that sealed Göring’s total victory was the Briton connection.

    Brittany, an arms dealer at heart and master of the black markets was well aware that they might gain a profit from Göring’s actions, and began adding to his already large quantities of arms and soldiers with more guns and mercenaries.

    Any rumors of Burgundian support to Göring would be absolutely false, though they were occasional at the time.

    What is concretely known is that after a year and a half, Bormann and Speer saw the writing on the wall.

    Bormann himself fled to Donitz’s government, where he boarded a ship after giving a speech to his loyalists. Sightings of him would continue throughout the 1970s.

    Speer meanwhile, fled to Sweden and through a large amount of political wrangling, managed to get a plane ticket to America.

    Hermann Göring was reluctantly welcomed into Germania by Speidel, and the First German Civil War was over.

    Göring now ruled the Reich.
     
  4. Zoidberg12 Well-Known Member

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    Good points. I edited my post to reflect this and removed the pictures of the protesters.

    I also image that if Germany and France do go to war against Burgundy that Burgundy would definitely use their nukes against both nations, possibly nuking major cities just to bring about their twisted desires for a post-nuclear world.
     
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  5. Zoidberg12 Well-Known Member

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    Carlo Alberto Dalla Chiesa, the governor of the Italian Levant during the 1960s who became a household name in the Italian Empire for his masterful handling of the Zionist-Arab Negotiations, eventually leading to the creation of a Jewish nation of Israel and an Arab nation of Palestine, and his leadership of the Levant during the Second-Italo Turkish War, during which Turkey failed to conquer any territory form the Italian Empire, with the war ending territoriality in a status qou ante bellum and with part of Turkish Syria demilitarized. For his service to the Italian Empire, Chiesa would eventually succeed Count Galeazzo Ciano as the Third Duce of the Italian Empire, after which he would continue Ciano's reforms, eventually leading to the return of democracy in Italy during the 1990s.

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    Enrico Mattei, the infamous governor of Italian East Africa, known for his extreme overworking and cruelty towards the natives of the colony and his utter ruthlessness in the seeking of colonial profits. As a result of these actions, Mattei has been called "The Italian King Leopold" and "Il Coure Nera", meaning "The Black Heart" in Italian, a reference to the novel Heart of Darkness. While at first Ciano's government appreciated the new profits coming to Rome from a colony that was once a financial drain on the empire, after news emerged of Mattei's cruel methods and mistreatment of the natives of East Africa, the Italian government demanded he resign and return to Rome. Unsurprisingly, he refused, leading to him declaring the independence of Italian East Africa from Italy as "The Republic of Correntia" in 1965. The Italian Armies, including Ethiopian, Eritrean, Somali, and Black Sudanese soldiers, then invaded Correntia from Sudan and from the surrounding seas with marines and also instituted a naval blockade around the Horn of Africa. After months of war, Correntia and its capital of Addis Ababa eventually fell to the Italian Armies. Mattei attempted to flee from his palace, but was captured and killed by African soldiers while running from the palace. His body was then displayed hanging in the town square for the locals to see and beat up out of anger, then dumped in an unmarked grave outside the city.

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    Photos of members of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, the Stepan Bandera faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists ,during the German Civil War, circa 1964. During the German Civil War, the UPA would commit numerous atrocities against Germans, Poles, Jews and Russians alike. After the German Civil War, the UPA took over all of RK Ukraine from the Greater Germanic Reich, establishing the fascist Ukrainian State under Hetman Vasyl Kuk, with the Ukrainian State being a totalitarian regime which persecuted all non-Ukrainians and non-Orthodox Christians alike. Thus, the dark times for Ukraine were far from over.

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    Officers of the collaborationist Andriy Melnyk faction of Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, circa 1962. During the German Civil War, they would fight constantly with the Ukrainian Insurgent Army and other Ukrainian nationalists on behalf of RK Ukraine and Alfred Rosenberg's faction within RK Ukraine.

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    Roman Shukhevych, the leader of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army during the 1950s, photographed in the forests of RK Ukraine meeting with UPA officers during the Ukrainian insurgency against the Greater Germanic Reich, circa 1955.

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    Vasyl Kuk, Hetman of the Ukrainian State.

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    General Ivan Kononov, the leader of the Cossack State in what was once eastern Ukraine during the German Civil War. During and after the German Civil War, Kononov fought the forces of RK Ukraine, the UPA and RK Kaukasia, among others, all the while managing to keep his militaristic and isolationist nation relatively safe from all such outside invaders.
     
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    Augusto De Marsanich - Third Duce of Italy. He was responsible for reforming Italy, although the Fascist Party and Ideology still rules Italy well into the present. In terms of his reforms, he divised a new period for Italian Fascism he called "Fascist Democracy" where he liberalized Italy's economy, loosened its laws and legalized political parties. Although it's alleged that these legalized political parties are controlled opposition/sockpuppets to the Fascist Regime since the Fascist Party dominates Italian politics well into the present. In regards to his rule, he is referred to as the Speer of Italy. Even though Marsanich brought reform, Italy would still violate human rights having political prisoners, censorship and silencing press. Marsanich leads the New Force Faction of the Fascist Party which seeks to liberalize the Fascist Ideology, they claim that Fascism must undergo evolution in order for Fascism to survive the changing times.

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    Giorgio Almirante - A Fascist Party member who leads the National Right Faction of the Fascist Party opposing the Marsanich's Fascist Democracy. Almirante seeks to reverse Marsanich's reforms and bring back the old Fascist policies of Mussolini, as he sees Marsanich's reforming of Fascism ruining Mussolini's Legacy. Almirante is a vocal and outspoken figure for many hardcore Fascists. He believes that Fascism is fine the way it is and that Fascism doesn't need to change to survive to the present.

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    Pino Rauti - He leads the Tricolour Flame Faction of the Fascist Party. Rauti seeks to have Fascist Italy run under a National Syndicalist system, where Rauti had even approached the underground communists in Italy to cooperate with him and his Faction of the Fascist Party. Initially he supported Marsanich's Reforms, but later on opposed him as he saw Marsanich bringing Capitalism to Italy which Rauti opposed.

    AN: Imagine Marsanich being like Deng Xiaoping in China when China saw liberalization and reform under the Communists.
     
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    Marshall Josip Broz Tito, the Socialist leader of Free Yugoslavia during the German Civil War, during which the government of the rebelling Free Yugoslavia was a coalition between socialists, communists, chetniks, monarchists, republics, democrats, liberals and numerous different nationalists, all united in their hatred towards fascism and the Serbian and Croatian puppet governments of Germany and Italy respectively. After years of warfare against Germany and Italy, Yugoslavia would become a free nation once again as the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, with Yugoslavia consisting of Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Montenegro and with Tito serving as provisional president until his death.

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    Flag of the Republic of Yugoslavia. The crown has added to the coat of arms in an effort to placate monarchists, if only symbolically.
     
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    Here is my idea of what Europe would look like in the year 2000, over thirty-five years after the victory of Albert Speer in the German Civil War.

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  10. HIM Dogson Rationally Royalist

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    Pictured: promotional art for Magneto, one of the most popular superheroes in the world. A mutant who can control magnetism, he was imprisoned at the Auschwitz death camp during the Holocaust, where he discovered his powers. Fortunately, he survived long enough to be enslaved, and spent his teenage years as a slave to Baron Heinrich Zemo, a top ranking member of HYDRA, the Nazi science division. He was brutally experimented on by Zemo, but it helped him control his powers, and in the chaos of the German Civil War he murdered his tormentor to escape. He would go on to found the X-men, a team of mutants fighting the Nazis across Europe, and featuring many prominent superheroes in their own rights, such as Wolverine, Cyclops, and Storm. Over the course of the Cold War, the X-men would clash with HYDRA (whose leader, Red Skull, was cast as the real power behind Bormann's throne) and their Sentinel robots time and time again, showing that, no matter how heavy the boot of oppression can become, there will always be heroes who will rise up and fight it.
     
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