Photos of the Kaiserreich

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  1. DanielXie Well-Known Member

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    Great. Overall great post of what alt-TNO might look like in a capitalist victory scenario(mine was socialist victory perspective), incorporating stuff from the mod I'm involved with(Krasnacht) too. It really captures the grimdark "world on the brink" sort of feeling TNO gives us, through I'd say that this reality has more opportunities to pick itself up and get better(to an extent) than TNO with possibility for reformists to emerge in France, CSA, and even Russia.
     
  2. Ismaili777 Well-Known Member

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    With black guards, Ana fast and rodzaevsky seems krasnacht inspired.
     
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  3. Zoidberg12 Well-Known Member

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    Correct! Vonsiatsky being a Russian Himmler and the Black Guards being like the Russian SS was inspired by the Krasnacht mod. For the record, the Combat Guard are the elite soldiers of the Black Guards (I'm not sure if there is a precise analog within the SS).
     
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    I would argue Vonsiatsky in IRL wasn't really anti-Semitic, heck when Vonsiatsky was leading the All-Russian Fascist Organization he had split from Rodzaevsky's RFP due to disagreements over Anti-semitism.
     
  5. Zoidberg12 Well-Known Member

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    I was inspired by Krasnacht to have Vonsiatsky as the insane radical voynist and Himmler analog, which is ironic considering the above.
     
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    (a LPPO rally in Lublin)
    Although the State of Poland collapsed in the early 90s along with the rest of the Prague Pact and the Russian State and transitioned to a Radical Socialist government under founder Anna Walentynowicz, remnants of the ruling party, the Polish National Patriotic Party and its various Rodinist, monarchist, and Codreanuist wings organized into a new party (League of Patriotic Poles) and hold regular party activities because of the Law of Pardoning passed in 1999 by the Polish Federation of Labor. They have been irrelevant since their founding, but with the crisis occurring across RoteEuropa (the unofficial name for the European syndicalist sphere) as a result of the Kongolese and Dervish Civil War, many Poles have been flocking back to the nostalgia of a nationalistic and anti syndicalist Poland...
     
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  7. Ismaili777 Well-Known Member

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    black guards were SS, combat squads were SA, according to my talks with Kaisermacht.
     
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    Interesting. Thanks for letting me know.
     
  9. Arcvalons The internationale unites the world in song.

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  11. Arcvalons The internationale unites the world in song.

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    Yes It appears so
     
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    Tanks of the 121st Tankya Divsya 'Savinkov's Fist' take positions around Moscow

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    Protesters gather on a Statist APC

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    Unionist politicians speak out in favor of dethawing the regime

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    Barricades go up across the city as Syndicalists consolidate their control
    Black August was a political crisis in the Russian State upon the assassination of the ailing Vozhd Zerdony Verkinsky during a speech in August of 1995. The Vozhd was already in notably ailing health but seemed to recover by early August of 1995. After a long absence from the public spotlight he appeared before his people in Kiev to give a speech commemorating the 50th anniversary of the climatic Battle of Kiev that broke the German lines and led to the Russian victory in the East. However long dormant elements of the political sphere, most notably the Syndicalist Novyy Bol'shevistskiy Blok (NBB) and big tent Narodnaya Yunionistskaya Partiya (PUP) saw their chance. During the speech a radicalized member of the NBB threw a grenade at the stage in an attempt to kill the Vozhd. The Vozhd's bodyguards managed to tackle the most powerful man on Earth out of the way of the blast (which killed 10 civilians) but inadvertently broke his leg as he hit the ground. The Vozhd was rushed to a local hospital as local Army units flooded the city and put it on lock down. After a tense week while doctors struggled to save the Vozhd's life they were despondent to see his body finally give out and during a surgery he had a massive heart attack that killed the man that dozens of others tried. The Senate (which had spent most of the last few decades) saw its chance to take control of the political organs of state and immediately moved to elect the new Vozhd, Vladimir Putin. This was in direct conflict to the man the previous Vozhd named his successor, named Aleksey Zhuravlyov and soon a political crisis struck the State. Political analysts from Paris to Calcutta compared the deadlock to that which gripped Russia after Kerensky's assassination which allowed Savinkov to take power in the first place. As the world waited with baited breath as to what would happen next, the people took things into their own hands.

    The first to act was the NBB. Long dormant but never completely expunged its members had spent decades waiting for just such an occasion to take advantage of. President of the NBB Zyuganov sent out a coded transmission over the Syndicalist leaning pirate radio stations "The sky runs red today". Within hours cities across Russia were flooded with protesters waving red flags, chanting Bolshevik slogans and decrying the fascist system in Moscow. The PUP was slower to act however. Being a big tent party of various democratic movements many of its left leaning elements wanted to piggy back off the NBB protests to not draw the ire of any government crackdowns while more radical elements wished for counter protests to drown out the NBB and Moscow regime. Finally, as August entered its third week the PUP finally agreed to stage their own protests aimed solely against Moscow, choosing to not work with the NBB as much as possible. It was compromise nobody was happy with but one that many were able to stomach, if for a little while. The largest of these protests were in Moscow (PUP) and Kiev (NBB) where hundreds of thousands of protesters ground both cities to a halt. The Russian State seemed to be on the brink of massive change, something that the regime in Moscow could not abide. Putin and Aleksey met in a secret location and agreed to put aside their differences for the time being instead uniting to crush the protests and retain NRPR power. To do this both Aleksey and Putin sent messages to units loyal to them commanding they enter Moscow and Kiev and suppress the budding rebellion. The first units to enter Moscow were Putin loyalists while Aleksey's men managed to enter Kiev first creating spheres of power within the State, whoever ended their revolt first would have a leg up in the battle of legitimacy.

    In Moscow things escalated quickly. Putin was just as ruthless as the Old Guard and as his troops marched into Red Square tear gas and rubber bullets were used to quickly disperse protesters. It was not long before rubber was replaced with lead however and within hours most of Moscow was under Putin's control. However certain neighborhoods with strong PUP presences were able to hold out with a combination of hit and run attacks and barricades. Centered around the Biryulovo Vostochnoye and Biryulovo Zapadnoye neighborhoods PUP supporters gave speeches championing their causes and inspiring their budding soldiers to fight. Meanwhile towards the center of Moscow Putin's men had regrouped and launched a new push on the PUP's barricades, this time spearheaded by heavy tanks. The fighting was laughably one sided as protesters turned guerrilla fighters were gunned down by the dozens whenever caught out in the open and PUP politicians, once hopeful of being the first President of a democratic Russia, fled Moscow as the screams of their supporters were cut short with gunfire. Things went much the same in Kiev except when Aleksey's men cracked down on the NBB they retreated into the factories that crowded Kiev turning each of them into fortresses that had to be cleared out or burned out. Better armed than the more academic PUP the NBB posed a serious infestation for the Statist army to weed out. As soon as a 'nest' was cleared the survivors would disperse into the crowded metropolis and become one man snipers forcing increased resources hunting them down. In the end it took months to clear Kiev in contrast to the days it took Putin to clear out Moscow. However both men knew that the slaughter of so many would do nothing but undermine their claims to the Vozhdship. Both men knew that these were the opening shots of the Third Russian Civil War.
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    *This is based on how I see my recent Russian State game playing out in the long run
     
  13. raffaele gaggioli Well-Known Member

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    What do you think happened to Otto Strasser in the Kaiserreich timeline?
     
  14. Ismaili777 Well-Known Member

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    He is in the party “ Alldeutscher Verband” though Ernst rohm dominates.
     
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    Logo of the Independent Serbian State Army, a hypernationalist terrorist group, operating mainly along the Serbian-Austrian border.
    Although its members claim to be the direct continuation of the original Black Hand, the origins of the group are generally traced back to the early 1950s with their first attack on Goražde.
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    Milan Nedić, considered by many one of the founding fathers of the ISSA.
    A veteran of the first Weltkrieg and the Fourth Balkan War, Serbia's defeat in both conflicts led him to believe that it was impossible for Serbia to win militarily against the Austrian empire.
    On the contrary, he began to argue that the only way to achieve victory was to start a campaign of terror against the symbols of Austrian power to push the civilian population in Illyria to rebel against Vienna.
    Although his direct participation in the subsequent attacks in Illyria is open to debate, Nedić never failed to show support for the ISSA, claiming that the real culprits were Austria and its "oppression" of Orthodox Serbs.
    Ironically he himself was killed in an act of violence by a group of Hungarian nationalists in 1954.

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    A photo of the main street of Goražde after the attack of 12 August 1951. Although the objective of the ISSA was the Catholic mayor of the city, the early explosion of the car bomb killed only two innocent bystanders.
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    The consequences of an ISSA attack on a Catholic church in Sarajevo in 1965. In the twenty years following the first attack on Garažne, the ISSA would continue to hit civil and political targets not only in Illyria but in some cases also in Bulgaria and Albania in an attempt to foment the revolution, but obtaining very few resounds.
    This twenty years is known in Austria as "The Years of Lead" ("Jahre Blei") and was also characterized by interreligious violence between the Orthodox and Catholic communities.
     
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    Looks cool