So I just had a thought.theres no mention of any of the superbombs being tested before use in 191. So everyone is literally just praying they work lol.
I went back and looked at where the WW2 admirals in our TL were from and a lot were from the South...and they got wasted on the CSA navy lolView attachment 657090
A photograph of Confederate Vice Admiral Willis "Ching" Lee aboard the battlecruiser CSS Robert E. Lee, circa 1942.
Born in 1888 in Kentucky, Willis Augustus Lee was a distant relative to the famed Confederate General, Robert E. Lee. Entering into the C.S. Naval College in Mobile, Alabama in 1904, Lee would earn the nickname of "Ching", both for his Chinese sounding surname and his fondness for East Asian culture, and he would also be enrolled in the Academy's Rifle Team. After graduating in 1908, Lee would switch back and forth between the Naval Academy's rifle team and various warships of the Confederate Navy until the start of the First Great War. During the Conflict, he would serve aboard the scout cruiser Pensacola and the destroyer Raphael Semmes, which the former ship was involved in the ill-fated New York Harbor Raid in September of 1914 and the First Battle of the Virginia Capes* in August of the following year. Following the end of the war, Lee would remain in the Confederate Navy, in which he would have his first command, being the destroyer Gideon J. Pillow, and during the Interwar years, would rise through the ranks of the navy. By 1940, he was promoted to be a Vice Admiral and was also given command of the new battlecruiser Robert E. Lee, in which Lee would regularly have the ship's gunners conduct gunnery practices in order to get the most accuracy out of the ship's weapons. These practices would ultimately pay-off, when on night of December 12th, 1941, while a Confederate battlegroup comprising of his flagship, and the cruisers Alabama and Fort Sumter were on an anti-commerce patrol 600 nautical miles off Nova Scotia. Lee's force would then stumble across a US Navy force comprising of the heavy cruisers Vincennes, Chicago, and Pittsburgh, and 2 destroyers. With the assistance of British designed radar aboard his flagship, Lee was able to surprise the unsuspecting enemy.
A photo taken by a sailor aboard the Robert E. Lee of the Union heavy cruiser USS Pittsburgh ablaze. Thanks to the gunnery of his men and especially the advanced radar fire control, Lee's flagship was able to make devastating salvos which sank the Pittsburgh and Vincennes and badly damaging the Chicago. Following his successful night action on the 15th of December, Featherston would personally award Admiral Lee the Order of CSS Virginia in January of 1942 and would be promoted to Rear Admiral. In addition, Confederate propaganda would tout Lee as, "The Greatest Confederate Admiral since Semmes."
From a period of September of 1941 and the first half of 1943, Admiral Lee and his flagship would take part in several combat cruises in the North Atlantic, both defending Radius shipping and engaging enemy ones. During the times, his flagship would sink the light cruiser USS Cleveland and 4 destroyers in addition to sinking 178,000 GRT of enemy shipping. Lee would be command of Confederate Naval Forces during the titanic Second Battle of Bermuda in the spring of 1943. Following the blunder at the Berry Islands in the Bahamas by the Confederate Caribbean Fleet in August of 1943, the Confederate Atlantic Fleet would largely be confined to Norfolk in which Admiral Lee would spend much of the time doing desk work with the exception of during of assisting the withdrawal of Confederate forces from Delaware during Operation Stonewall in the early winter of 1944. In the Spring of 1944 as Union forces approached Norfolk, Virginia, the Confederate High Command would order Admiral Lee and the remnants Atlantic Fleet to weigh anchor and attempt to sail to the Tampa to link up with the Caribbean Fleet. Admiral Lee and his forces would then be ambushed by US Navy warships off Currituck, and following the climatic night battle** which saw his forces wiped out, Lee would make it to shore after abandoning his flagship. The morning afterwards, Lee and a large group of sailors and officers would encounter a retreating CS Army convoy, in which they join them and were driven to Wilmington. After getting there, Admiral Lee was put in command of the newly raised Wilmington Naval Infantry Division, which comprised mostly of landlocked sailors and marines alongside soldiers and vehicles from the battered remnants of the 10th FPG John P. Edgar Division, in which he would command until the end of the war. Admiral Lee would ultimately pass away in Union captivity at Camp Morrell near Raleigh, North Carolina on August 25, 1945. He would eventually be reburied at the Confederate Military Cemetery in Richmond in 1959, in which his former colleagues like Nimitz and other wartime CSN veterans would attend Lee's reburial ceremony.
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* = The CSS Pensacola along with the protected cruiser Chattanooga would pick up the survivors of the battlecruiser Camp Hill following it's catastrophic explosion.
** = The Battle off Currituck is my headcanon's analog to the Battle of Surigao Strait as being the last battleship on battleship confrontation in naval history.
You have to be careful, because you will need to go back to where their families were at the time of the POD. It's one of the reasons people get confused why Patton is part of the CSA when he is from California, but people forget that his family fought for the Confederacy in the Civil War
I did for Nimitz. Family was German immigrants to SC/TX in the 1840s. Enough time to lose their germanness
Did the Japanese Tortured McCain like any US Pilots been captured akin to the OTL Vietnamese Army Soldiers Torturing US Pilots in Hanoi Prison if the TL-191 had the Hotel Hanoi analogue in Japanese Hotel Tokyo maybe.View attachment 657251
C.S. Navy Admiral John Sidney "Slew" McCain (1884-1944), photographed here as a Vice Admiral in 1939, commanded the Confederate States Navy's Atlantic Command during the late stages of the Second Great War. In the months of the war's end, he was forced to commit suicide after communications between him and Nathan Bedford Forrest III were revealed, showing McCain's support for his failed coup and accepting an offer to become Acting Vice President. His son, John S. McCain Jr., defected to the U.S. several days later to avoid a similar fate, and his grandson became a longtime member of Congress after Mississippi's readmission to the United States in 1974.
John S. McCain III (1936-2018) served as a U.S. Representative from Mississippi from 1975 until his death in 2018 as a member of the Democratic Party. As the son of a Vice Admiral and grandson of an Admiral, both of whom served in the Confederate States Navy, McCain initially applied for the U.S. Naval Academy, but was rejected because of his southern ancestry. However, he was able to enlist in the U.S. Army and secured a mustang promotion after serving five years in the infantry. After reaching the rank of Major, McCain saw combat in the Fourth Pacific War, however was captured at the Battle of Omiyajima and was held as a POW until the end of the war. Upon returning home, he received a heroes welcome as his story was used as a promotional tool to boost relations between ex-Confederates and Americans and encourage unity between them. He then ran for Congress in 1974 as a member of the Democratic Party and bested a token Socialist opponent that November. As a representative for Mississippi, which once had the largest black population in the Confederacy, worked with the Remembrance Center and the late Cassius Madison to preserve the memory of the Population Reduction and its victims, as well as recognize those who opposed Featherston and the Freedom Party (namely his grandfather and father). McCain rose to the position of House Democratic Whip and served in the position from 1997 to 2007 and served as Chairman of the Armed Forces Committee from 2003 to 2015, as well as the Ranking Member from 2015 until his death. McCain passed away of brain cancer at his home outside of Yazoo City and was the last remaining member of Congress to be born inside the Confederate States of America.
Did the mod get updated? Which one is this?The United Kingdom in the Southern Victory HOI4 mod
"New Party" is the official name of Mosley's party
In any time line John S. McCain III is a stand up guy.View attachment 657251
C.S. Navy Admiral John Sidney "Slew" McCain (1884-1944), photographed here as a Vice Admiral in 1939, commanded the Confederate States Navy's Atlantic Command during the late stages of the Second Great War. In the months of the war's end, he was forced to commit suicide after communications between him and Nathan Bedford Forrest III were revealed, showing McCain's support for his failed coup and accepting an offer to become Acting Vice President. His son, John S. McCain Jr., defected to the U.S. several days later to avoid a similar fate, and his grandson became a longtime member of Congress after Mississippi's readmission to the United States in 1974.
John S. McCain III (1936-2018) served as a U.S. Representative from Mississippi from 1975 until his death in 2018 as a member of the Democratic Party. As the son of a Vice Admiral and grandson of an Admiral, both of whom served in the Confederate States Navy, McCain initially applied for the U.S. Naval Academy, but was rejected because of his southern ancestry. However, he was able to enlist in the U.S. Army and secured a mustang promotion after serving five years in the infantry. After reaching the rank of Major, McCain saw combat in the Fourth Pacific War, however was captured at the Battle of Omiyajima and was held as a POW until the end of the war. Upon returning home, he received a heroes welcome as his story was used as a promotional tool to boost relations between ex-Confederates and Americans and encourage unity between them. He then ran for Congress in 1974 as a member of the Democratic Party and bested a token Socialist opponent that November. As a representative for Mississippi, which once had the largest black population in the Confederacy, worked with the Remembrance Center and the late Cassius Madison to preserve the memory of the Population Reduction and its victims, as well as recognize those who opposed Featherston and the Freedom Party (namely his grandfather and father). McCain rose to the position of House Democratic Whip and served in the position from 1997 to 2007 and served as Chairman of the Armed Forces Committee from 2003 to 2015, as well as the Ranking Member from 2015 until his death. McCain passed away of brain cancer at his home outside of Yazoo City and was the last remaining member of Congress to be born inside the Confederate States of America.
In timeline 191 his daughter is still insufferable
