Wow, surprisingly recent that he confirmed that info.
Photos from Featherston's Confederacy/ TL-191
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Picture of USS Delaware BB-35 in mothballs in the Naval Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility (Pennsylvania) (1948). Pittsburgh-class aircraft carrier USS Al Smith is next to her to the right.
Above is the cover art of the Japanese animated series, "Girls Und Barrel". This series features the characters participated in a sport called "Barrelery", which as you guessed, is a sport involving barrels, against other schools. Each school is based on different countries involved in the Second Great War such as Tsarist Russia, the German Empire, Austria-Hungary, Great Britain, the United States, and, controversially, the Confederate States, use the Barrels of said countries. This series has garnered some accusations of promoting Freedomism due to a lot of focus on a character that comes from a Confederate States themed school.
Call me Ridiculous i can imagine the Confederate themed school know as Rebel Yell Girls Academy if anyone created that emblem would been obliged even Texas Themed school been know as Lone Star Girls Academy been seeing those girls wearing Texas State Rangers esque uniforms with Cowboy Hats on
Governor Eugene Talmadge (W/F-GA), 1941, Whig Party National Convention
In 1941, a few weeks after war broke out in North America, Governor Talmadge's "National Whigs", a faction of the Party loyal to the Featherston Administration that had controlled the Party's National Committee since 1938, voted to dissolve the Whig Party and fold it into the Freedom Party. The Party's few remaining Congressmen, led by Talmadge, the Party's sole remaining Governor, defected to the Administration, and the Whig Party's remaining assets and organisations were appropriated by the Freedom Party.
Though the Whig Party in exile led by Harry Byrd had long since refused to recognise Talmadge's National Committee as legitimate, the dissolution of the domestic Whigs (combined with the banning of the Radical-Liberals a few days after the beginning of Operation Blackbeard) represented the formal end of legal opposition to the Freedom Party.
In 1941, a few weeks after war broke out in North America, Governor Talmadge's "National Whigs", a faction of the Party loyal to the Featherston Administration that had controlled the Party's National Committee since 1938, voted to dissolve the Whig Party and fold it into the Freedom Party. The Party's few remaining Congressmen, led by Talmadge, the Party's sole remaining Governor, defected to the Administration, and the Whig Party's remaining assets and organisations were appropriated by the Freedom Party.
Though the Whig Party in exile led by Harry Byrd had long since refused to recognise Talmadge's National Committee as legitimate, the dissolution of the domestic Whigs (combined with the banning of the Radical-Liberals a few days after the beginning of Operation Blackbeard) represented the formal end of legal opposition to the Freedom Party.
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So despite the common impression of brave Whigs facing their demise in Freedomite camps the majority put their heads down and went along with the Freedomite regime along with a small number of Radical Liberals and an even smaller number of the small number of Confederate white Socialists ?
No, most of the party leadership got sent to the camps as politicals, but a few under Talmadge were allowed to take over the party and run it as a puppet of the Freedom Party until the war. This obviously didn't go well with most loyal Whigs, but the only people who could disapprove were the exiles, who by their nature couldn't actually stop what was happening.
The Rad-Libs were similar, but their arrangement (read; Featherston's control) was far more tenuous, so instead of being absorbed they were banned. The Socialists were banned in 1936, after the Richmond Olympics, and were never given any quarter at all.
Confederate Militia Men in the Southwest, still wearing out dated Grey Uniforms
A Virginia Central Railroad manifest freight rolls along the Virginia Centrals James River line. Build on the tow path of the old James River and Kanawha Canal the VC's James River line offered the VC a water level route into the Shenandoah Valley and down into the Southwest Virginia Coal Fields where it would compete with the Atlantic Mississippi and Ohio RR for dominance in the transport of Coal. Picture taken sometime in the Mid 1930's
The Atlantic Mississippi and Ohio Railroad was perhaps the premier east west link for the Confederacy though out its existence. Founded in 1869 by William Mahone and his wife. It gain a fortune from the transportation of Coal from Southwest Virginia, Eastern Kentucky, North Carolina and Tennessee. Its tracks stretched west from Norfolk Va to Memphis on the Mississippi and Louisville on the Ohio. Here is one of the AM&O's massive 4-8-4 N class locomotives pulling its flagship train the Virginia Cardinal trains 12 and 14 from Norfolk to Memphis. With stops in Lynchburg, Salem, Bristol, Knoxville, and Nashville along the way. Her sister train that ran to Louisville was called the Thoroughbred trains 15 and 16. In both cases one train would run west east while the other east west.
A potential difference between the real world and that of the books might be the continued use of 1,524 mm gauge in the South. It was all converted to standard gauge in 1886 in our world, but with the CSA existing as a separate nation they might have decided not to do it, to deny the USA from effectively using their own rail network against themselves. Would also be a fun little nod to the problems the Germans faced with the Russian 1,520 mm railroads, since they used the standard gauge themselves.
Would also be funny if there was some sort of overlap between locomotives of the Confederacy and those of Russia, such as both ordering same models from manufacturers overseas, but I don't know if that's plausible.
I plan on going into this but what would become tye American Locomotive Company started as the Tredegar Locomotive Works in Richmond VA. Pre Civil War so not all csa Locomotives are imported in 191. Plus the AM&O (which became the Norfolk and Western in 1873 OTL ) will have its own shops in Lynchburg VA.
So maybe it was discussed previously but in our TL , Rommel is the “good German” , which I don’t believe but let’s not discuss that lol.
Who amongst the Confederates would the US see as that equivalent? The honorable for who was just in service to a bad cause? Patton is my easy answer but hey NBF III tried to kill Featherston and idk maybe George Marshall?
Who amongst the Confederates would the US see as that equivalent? The honorable for who was just in service to a bad cause? Patton is my easy answer but hey NBF III tried to kill Featherston and idk maybe George Marshall?
Not any knowledge about actions of CSA generals but perhaps Patton. But he seems bit too obvious.
The primary issue of course being so few named Confederate Generals in Official Canon so we rely alot on Head Canon.
Brigadier General Ling is probably up there; Commander of the Army of West Texas, he was just doing a job and since the Texas campaign appears to have been waged similar to the North Africa campaign its likely Dowling had an adequate opinion of him.
George Marshall likely, depending if you believe head Canon about him (there's a posy in an another topic about his capture at Pittsburgh)
Patton is too obvious aye.
Hank Coomer no, he was specifically called out for being a strong Freedom Party man in 1920.
I have a list of a few other Confederate officers I was working on for my OrBat of the CS Army I could dig up.
Brigadier General Ling is probably up there; Commander of the Army of West Texas, he was just doing a job and since the Texas campaign appears to have been waged similar to the North Africa campaign its likely Dowling had an adequate opinion of him.
George Marshall likely, depending if you believe head Canon about him (there's a posy in an another topic about his capture at Pittsburgh)
Patton is too obvious aye.
Hank Coomer no, he was specifically called out for being a strong Freedom Party man in 1920.
I have a list of a few other Confederate officers I was working on for my OrBat of the CS Army I could dig up.
Post-war, with the CSA fully defeated, the US are going vilify the CS Military just as much as being a part the Featherston regime just like the FPG was--even those "just following orders". The army are definitely not clean, and as such there would not be anything like the clean Wehrmacht myth. But they may find a few generals who chose not to deport any African-Americans and other Northern civilians south, and others who chose to spare the lives of POWs and treated US POWs well.
Since Ling operated in the area of Camp Determination, he would've well known about it and even protected it and had a hand in deportations. David's write up in 'After the End' has him being executed for being a major accessory to murder.
Since Ling operated in the area of Camp Determination, he would've well known about it and even protected it and had a hand in deportations. David's write up in 'After the End' has him being executed for being a major accessory to murder.
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