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The state you were born in was probably the state you lived in for the rest of you life and since ittl those states were in different countries this was probably true more often ittl.In a case like Woodrow Wilson who was born in Virginia but made his early name in New Jersey OTL. But ittl he likely stayed in Virginia. That said however its very possible that people who lived in the USA and had been born there OTL with Southern roots might have been more likely to return to the CSA by themselves or with their families ittl-especially after CSA military victories over the USA so you probably had a fairy big influx of white Americans with Southern roots immigrating back to the CSA after the War of Secession, the Second Mexican War ,the Confederate-Spanish War,pre Great War and during the pre Second Great War Freedomite era....
 
In addition to your first post on Puller, would you propose/agree to have him as the Governor General of Occupied Haiti (my head-canon idea derived from it).
Up until things go south for the CSA following Morrell's drive into Tennessee and Georgia, i don't see why he wouldn't stay on in Haiti.
 
Hello everyone. I'm new here but I've been going on here for years now.
For my first post, it's mentioned--or at least implied--in the books and on this thread that Ukraine is a German-backed kingdom. While there is another post on this from a while back, I don't think Ukraine would be a monarchy ITTL per se, but definitely a Central Powers-backed dictatorship. I'm surprised no one has ever mentioned Pavlo Skoropadskyi on any TL-191 related thread I've seen.
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Skoropadskyi was the Hetman of Ukraine briefly in 1918 during the Ukranian War of Independence. He had previously served with the Imperial Russian Army as a Cossack cavalry commander and belonged to a noble family, which included descendance from Hetman of the Zaporizhian Host Ivan Skoropadskyi. In OTL, Skoropadksyi was installed as the Hetman of Ukraine after the CP overthrew the Ukrainian People's Republic in April 1918 with a conservative leaning government in order for the CP to stabilize the country and for the CP to gain their concessions from Ukraine. This period is known as the Ukrainian State, or the Hetmanate. Ukraine stabilized for some time and cooperated with the CP under Skoropadskyi, but his rule was an uneasy one and he wasn't popular among most Ukrainians. After the defeat of the Central Powers in November, the writing was on the wall for him and he resigned the next month and lived the rest of his life in exile in Germany, later dying of wounds sustained in a bombing during WWII. After Skoropadskyi was deposed, the Directorate under Symon Petliura took over and revived the UPR.

With the Central Powers winning ITTL and Ukraine retaining independence, I'm planning on making an in-universe bio on him eventually that goes over his service, his installation into power, and his rule overall. I'm definitely going to borrow from other posts and threads to piece this together and make it a worthy read--as well as my own head-cannon ideas. Other details I'm definitely considering adding is Ukraine assisting the CP in defeating the Bolsheviks, dealing with further rebellions, settling treaties and diplomacy with Ukraine's neighbors (e.g. territorial claims, ethnic tensions, and concessions), as well as going over the Interwar period, GW2, and the post-war period of his rule. Feel free to send me/suggest to me any workable ideas before posting.
I don't think this was ever addressed; its likely a minor German Prince was installed as the King of the Ukraine with your guy serving as the true dictator of Ukraine until its uprising in 41/42.
 
Prominent Officers of the Confederate Military, Second Great War (1941-1944)


Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest III, Chief of the CSA General Staff, seen with his Wife in 1939


George S. Patton, Commander, Army of Kentucky, seen in Alabama shortly before his final surrender, 1944



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Gen. Matthew Ridgeway, Army of Tennessee, Seen in the Fighting in Pittsburgh

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Last Photo of Brigadier Gen. Claudius Easley, Army of Georgia, killed in South Carolina the day of the Confederate Surrender.

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Brigadier Gen. Charles L. Keerans Jr, Army of Georgia, killed by Friendly Fire outside Atlanta in 1943.


Samuel "Chesty" Puller, CS Marine Corps, seen in Bermuda, 1941


General Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr, CSMC, seen in Haiti in 1942.




Admiral Chester Nimitz, CNO, Confederate States Navy


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Admiral Richard Byrd, Commander, CSN Carribean Fleet Operations


Admiral Husband Kimmel, Commander, Atlantic Fleet Operations, CSN



Gen. Ira Eaker, Chief of Air Operations, Confederate Air Force


Pre-War Photo of Gen. Billy Mitchell, the "Father" of the Confederate Air Force, seen in a "Confederate Citrus Company" "Security Staff" uniform, 1937.​
Love this; the only thing I'll note is there were no full Generals after General JEB Stuart Jr. purged; I think similar to Hitler how after Stalingrad he never promoted another officer to Field Marshal, I feel Featherson never promoted an Officer to full General. Nathan Bedford Forrest III was mentioned as having been a Lieutenant General the entirety of his tenure as Chief of the Confederate General Staff; Featherson likely never promoted an Officer to full General throughout his Presidency so there would be no single General could conceivably challenge him, he kept a bunch of Lt. Gens (Forrestt, Coomer, Patton likely when he was made the commanding officer of the Army of Kentucky during Coalscuttle). Even the officer that replaced Forrestt (Willard) was a Lieutenant General. Similarly I note there were no Freedom Party Guards above Group Leaders (Gruppenfürher) so there were no Senior Group Leaders or anything (Attorney General was likely as close to Reichführer is likely we would ever see)

As we see senior Confederate Officers can we think of anyone RL that could have been like q Sepp Dietrich (the senior FPG field officer)

I'm also going to do a work up on Field Freedom Party Guare units in the very immediate future (likely tonight)
 
You could say that. But maybe immigration levels from the UK (except Ireland) might stay the same ITTL--except in times of war, obviously. Hell, Bob Hope makes an appearance and he emigrated from England with his family when he was a kid.
Possible, but it was mentioned in the books that they only saw the CSA as a counter to the US and an ally of convenience. I doubt that we would see large levels of immigration like OTL
 
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You're right, it isn't. I chose Skoropadskyi because it's what came close to happening IRL and what I think would be most plausible ITTL.
I don't think this was ever addressed; its likely a minor German Prince was installed as the King of the Ukraine with your guy serving as the true dictator of Ukraine until its uprising in 41/42.
 
You're right, it isn't. I chose Skoropadskyi because it's what came close to happening IRL and what I think would be most plausible ITTL.
Without doubt, my head canon was that Kaiser Wilhelm used Poland and Ukraine as a way to get rid of two particularly Ambitious Princes and putting them else where, ans installing them as King/De-Jure Governor Generals of their respective Kingdoms, while installing local strongman/commanders as the true powers in their nations
 
Yeah definitely Poland will become a Central Powers-backed monarchy like they were supposed to IOTL.
Without doubt, my head canon was that Kaiser Wilhelm used Poland and Ukraine as a way to get rid of two particularly Ambitious Princes and putting them else where, ans installing them as King/De-jure Governor Generals of their respective Kingdoms, while installing local strongman/commanders as the true powers in their nations
 
My idea for the highest FPG rank would be "National (Chief) Leader" or something in that vein. A better name in my opinion for Field FPG would Armed-FPG since it's based on the translation for Waffen-SS. For addition higher ranks, we could go with Higher Group Leader and Chief/Supreme Group Leader.
Love this; the only thing I'll note is there were no full Generals after General JEB Stuart Jr. purged; I think similar to Hitler how after Stalingrad he never promoted another officer to Field Marshal, I feel Featherson never promoted an Officer to full General. Nathan Bedford Forrest III was mentioned as having been a Lieutenant General the entirety of his tenure as Chief of the Confederate General Staff; Featherson likely never promoted an Officer to full General throughout his Presidency so there would be no single General could conceivably challenge him, he kept a bunch of Lt. Gens (Forrestt, Coomer, Patton likely when he was made the commanding officer of the Army of Kentucky during Coalscuttle). Even the officer that replaced Forrestt (Willard) was a Lieutenant General. Similarly I note there were no Freedom Party Guards above Group Leaders (Gruppenfürher) so there were no Senior Group Leaders or anything (Attorney General was likely as close to Reichführer is likely we would ever see)

As we see senior Confederate Officers can we think of anyone RL that could have been like q Sepp Dietrich (the senior FPG field officer)

I'm also going to do a work up on Field Freedom Party Guare units in the very immediate future (likely tonight)
 
My idea for the highest FPG rank would be "National (Chief) Leader" or something in that vein. A better name in my opinion for Field FPG would Armed-FPG since it's based on the translation for Waffen-SS. For addition higher ranks, we could go with Higher Group Leader and Chief/Supreme Group Leader.
Aye, I was going with Senior Group Leader for the one above Group Leader because thr rough translation from Overst is both Colonel and Senior.

So the upper ranks would be, in order (in my head canon lol)

Brigade Leader - Brigadier General (which fun fact means the commander of thr Army of West Texas was actually outrank by Jefferson Pinkard after he was promoted to Group Leader)
Group Leader - Major General
Senior Group Leader - Lieutenant General
Supreme/National Freedom Leader - General

I didn't add in a five star because I'm Timeline 191, thr Americans and Confederate never made a five star rank, likely because they weren't worried about outranking their European allies that weren't in the American theater
 
Love this; the only thing I'll note is there were no full Generals after General JEB Stuart Jr. purged; I think similar to Hitler how after Stalingrad he never promoted another officer to Field Marshal, I feel Featherson never promoted an Officer to full General. Nathan Bedford Forrest III was mentioned as having been a Lieutenant General the entirety of his tenure as Chief of the Confederate General Staff; Featherson likely never promoted an Officer to full General throughout his Presidency so there would be no single General could conceivably challenge him, he kept a bunch of Lt. Gens (Forrestt, Coomer, Patton likely when he was made the commanding officer of the Army of Kentucky during Coalscuttle). Even the officer that replaced Forrestt (Willard) was a Lieutenant General. Similarly I note there were no Freedom Party Guards above Group Leaders (Gruppenfürher) so there were no Senior Group Leaders or anything (Attorney General was likely as close to Reichführer is likely we would ever see)

As we see senior Confederate Officers can we think of anyone RL that could have been like q Sepp Dietrich (the senior FPG field officer)

I'm also going to do a work up on Field Freedom Party Guare units in the very immediate future (likely tonight)
Speaking of Guard Units...


Please note: this is old and due for an update.
 
The Story of the "South Carolina Demon", The South Carolina Demon is a part of North American folklore such as Skinwalkers, Big Foot, Wendigos, Rakes, Mothman and etc. It's unknown when the story of the South Carolina Demon originated, however the first known reference of the demon was in 1869, a slave owner told one of his slaves if he ever escaped the "Demon of South Carolina" will get you. The story of the Demon was told to slaves in South Carolina, and it says that when the slaves escape and enter a forest a old man with a thick germen accent, will show up out of no ware, and will walk up to the slaves and offer them a ride to the United States. Than the demon will show his true form, he rips off his clothes and his giant wings spring out from his back, and he takes the slave or slaves right to hell. After Slavery was banned in the CSA the story was fated away. Until 1999, a group of friends were on a road trip, they were driving in a forest in North East, South Carolina that was where most sightings of the Demon were reported. one of the friends took a picture of the forest to test her new digital camera. And when she looked back at the picture. she saw a figure in the picture. And later after that road trip, she uploaded that picture in online chat rooms. the picture became viral, and some people who know about North American Folklore says that the picture has the South Carolina Demon in it. This was a very controversial picture, many people accused her of photoshopping the picture or one of her friends dressed up to look creepy and they took the picture. She denied the allegations, she also claimed that she did not see the figure when she took the photo. People asked her why she took the picture in the first place, she said that she took the picture to test out her brand new digital camera. After that the story of the Demon was forgotten about, until May 1, 2020 when a person who was in a gas station in a forest in North East, South Carolina, pulled out his phone to take a picture of a very ugly creature with wings. He later uploaded the picture on Twitter. The man claims he was going back in his truck after refilling it with gas and right about he was to go back in his truck he saw a massive figure standing. Around 100-150 feet away from him it had massive wings. He took the photo of the thing and jumped in to his truck and drove away in fear. Many people think it's the South Carolina Demon back at it again, The Demon became popular again for two reasons, reason one, 2020 was considered a very bad year so many people just speculate that the demon was making a come back and to create terror in the state. Reason two was because at the time Trevor Henderson's Siren Head was very popular, so the internet at the time had a interest in monsters. many people point out the wing span of the demon, being around 30-40 feet. How ever many people point out that the creature only has 2 legs wile it was reported that the demon had 4 legs when he was at his true form. Lots of people said that this picture was most likely taken when the demon was transforming him self into his true form getting prepared to attack. And many people told the uploader that he made a smart choice leaving the gas station as soon as possible.
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The Story of the "South Carolina Demon", The South Carolina Demon is a part of North American folklore such as Skinwalkers, Big Foot, Wendigos, Rakes, Mothman and etc. It's unknown when the story of the South Carolina Demon originated, however the first known reference of the demon was in 1869, a slave owner told one of his slaves if he ever escaped the "Demon of South Carolina" will get you. The story of the Demon was told to slaves in South Carolina, and it says that when the slaves escape and enter a forest a old man with a thick germen accent, will show up out of no ware, and will walk up to the slaves and offer them a ride to the United States. Than the demon will show his true form, he rips off his clothes and his giant wings spring out from his back, and he takes the slave or slaves right to hell. After Slavery was banned in the CSA the story was fated away. Until 1999, a group of friends were on a road trip, they were driving in a forest in North East, South Carolina that was where most sightings of the Demon were reported. one of the friends took a picture of the forest to test her new digital camera. And when she looked back at the picture. she saw a figure in the picture. And later after that road trip, she uploaded that picture in online chat rooms. the picture became viral, and some people who know about North American Folklore says that the picture has the South Carolina Demon in it. This was a very controversial picture, many people accused her of photoshopping the picture or one of her friends dressed up to look creepy and they took the picture. She denied the allegations, she also claimed that she did not see the figure when she took the photo. People asked her why she took the picture in the first place, she said that she took the picture to test out her brand new digital camera. After that the story of the Demon was forgotten about, until May 1, 2020 when a person who was in a gas station in a forest in North East, South Carolina, pulled out his phone to take a picture of a very ugly creature with wings. He later uploaded the picture on Twitter. The man claims he was going back in his truck after refilling it with gas and right about he was to go back in his truck he saw a massive figure standing. Around 100-150 feet away from him it had massive wings. He took the photo of the thing and jumped in to his truck and drove away in fear. Many people think it's the South Carolina Demon back at it again, The Demon became popular again for two reasons, reason one, 2020 was considered a very bad year so many people just speculate that the demon was making a come back and to create terror in the state. Reason two was because at the time Trevor Henderson's Siren Head was very popular, so the internet at the time had a interest in monsters. many people point out the wing span of the demon, being around 30-40 feet. How ever many people point out that the creature only has 2 legs wile it was reported that the demon had 4 legs when he was at his true form. Lots of people said that this picture was most likely taken when the demon was transforming him self into his true form getting prepared to attack. And many people told the uploader that he made a smart choice leaving the gas station as soon as possible.
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Ah, something new for TL-191 has been added, myths and legends.

This inspires me to make a post about Conspiracy Theories of TL-191.
 
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The Story of the "South Carolina Demon", The South Carolina Demon is a part of North American folklore such as Skinwalkers, Big Foot, Wendigos, Rakes, Mothman and etc. It's unknown when the story of the South Carolina Demon originated, however the first known reference of the demon was in 1869, a slave owner told one of his slaves if he ever escaped the "Demon of South Carolina" will get you. The story of the Demon was told to slaves in South Carolina, and it says that when the slaves escape and enter a forest a old man with a thick germen accent, will show up out of no ware, and will walk up to the slaves and offer them a ride to the United States. Than the demon will show his true form, he rips off his clothes and his giant wings spring out from his back, and he takes the slave or slaves right to hell. After Slavery was banned in the CSA the story was fated away. Until 1999, a group of friends were on a road trip, they were driving in a forest in North East, South Carolina that was where most sightings of the Demon were reported. one of the friends took a picture of the forest to test her new digital camera. And when she looked back at the picture. she saw a figure in the picture. And later after that road trip, she uploaded that picture in online chat rooms. the picture became viral, and some people who know about North American Folklore says that the picture has the South Carolina Demon in it. This was a very controversial picture, many people accused her of photoshopping the picture or one of her friends dressed up to look creepy and they took the picture. She denied the allegations, she also claimed that she did not see the figure when she took the photo. People asked her why she took the picture in the first place, she said that she took the picture to test out her brand new digital camera. After that the story of the Demon was forgotten about, until May 1, 2020 when a person who was in a gas station in a forest in North East, South Carolina, pulled out his phone to take a picture of a very ugly creature with wings. He later uploaded the picture on Twitter. The man claims he was going back in his truck after refilling it with gas and right about he was to go back in his truck he saw a massive figure standing. Around 100-150 feet away from him it had massive wings. He took the photo of the thing and jumped in to his truck and drove away in fear. Many people think it's the South Carolina Demon back at it again, The Demon became popular again for two reasons, reason one, 2020 was considered a very bad year so many people just speculate that the demon was making a come back and to create terror in the state. Reason two was because at the time Trevor Henderson's Siren Head was very popular, so the internet at the time had a interest in monsters. many people point out the wing span of the demon, being around 30-40 feet. How ever many people point out that the creature only has 2 legs wile it was reported that the demon had 4 legs when he was at his true form. Lots of people said that this picture was most likely taken when the demon was transforming him self into his true form getting prepared to attack. And many people told the uploader that he made a smart choice leaving the gas station as soon as possible.
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In reference to this, I found this video that lakes about legendary/paranormal stuff in Britain.
I can see that it would be possible for some these monsters to be used for a British version of Godzilla (Niseag, in one my older posts.)
 
The Snake Lives: Claims of Featherston's Survival
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A copy of a book titled Featherston is Alive, which was published by a Hungarian emigrant to Argentina named Ladislas Szabo in 1948.

In the world after the Second Great War, not everyone was convinced that Featherston wasn't shot dead by Cassius Madison on July 7th, 1944. There are conspiracy theorists that believe that Featherston had survived the Second Great War, in which the first major allegation was made by a Hungarian-Argentine named Ladislas Szabo who had published a book titled Featherston is Alive, which it claims that Featherston managed to escape the crumbling CSA aboard a submarine and made his way to Argentina, where he claimed that he is under the protection of Argentine Dictator Juan Peron. The book would be published in Argentina and in other parts of Latin America in 1948, just four years after Featherston's Death. There is a partial element of truth in the claim as a substantial amount of Freedomite War Criminals had in fact fled to Argentina, Brazil, and other South American Countries, in which a good number of them would find themselves in favorable positions by the various dictators of South America.

A photograph of Argentine Dictator Juan Peron, in which it was well known that Peron and his regime had invited a good amount of fugitive Confederate War Criminals and former High Ranking Freedomites who were wanted by the US Government. Even many would be put to work within the Argentine Regime as after all, Argentina had been an ally of the Confederacy and unlike the CSA, wasn't really defeated during the war.

A photograph of the CSS Swordfish as it was taken by a South African Air Force Avro Anson near Cape Town, in which the sub had surfaced there just months after the end of the Second Great War. Numerous other subs would also turn up in the Southern Atlantic along the coasts of Argentina, Brazil, and South Africa, in which they had carried escaped Freedomite War Criminals to these places to escape prosecution by the US Government who had wanted them for crimes against humanity. Many of the Featherston Survival Theories all claimed that Featherston along with Lulu had made their escape aboard one of these submarines.

Another popular variation of the Featherston Survival Theories was made by a Greek Diplomat to South Africa who had claimed that he had met Featherston while at a house party in Pretoria in 1961. The diplomat who went under the pseudonym of Iason Kalamatos would publish a book titled Featherston: The Story of His Survival which was published in 1964 originally in Greek, but would later be translated into other languages such as English, German, Italian, Spanish, and Japanese. In this book, Kalamtos would claim that Featherston came to South Africa via the Veracruz-Cape Town Rat Line that was established by Howard Hughes in 1945 following a time of laying low in Mexico. After arriving in South Africa, Featherston would reside in Cape Town, providing assistance to other fellow Freedomites who had also just entered South Africa. In 1947, the President of South Africa, General Jan Smuts would make Featherston a senior advisor for his Government, in which Kalamtos claimed Featherston would continue on with this role under the rule of Presidents D.F. Malan, J.G. Strijdom, and C.R. Swart before his ultimate retirement in 1960. In later works on his theory, Kalamatos would also claim that Featherston was living in a ranch in the Drakensberg Mountains under the protection of the Apartheid Regime as well Lulu managing to coming with him to South Africa and eventually having a daughter named Cindy. Kalamatos in a 1985 interview would claim that he had received word from a retired CIA official that Featherston had passed away in February of 1969 at his Drakensberg Home. When the Junta in South Africa finally fell in the early 2000s, a some researchers would go to South Africa to investigate these claims made by Kalamatos and others like him. Their searches however would turn up nothing, in which these researchers would conclude that the Conspiracy Theory about Featherston's Survival was nothing but baseless claims.

A photo of President D.F. Malan of South Africa with his cabinet, circa 1949. The man on the far left of the first row has been claimed by many Conspiracy Theorists to be Jake Featherston, which these people claimed was serving as a senior advisor to Malan.

These theories would also have a great number of critics to them, Cassius Madison who was the man who killed Featherston would respond to these theories in 1976.
"I have a piece of advice to any sane person, do not pay these losers who claim that Featherston survived the war any attention."

In more recent times, professional historians such as Catherine Clinton and Guy Walters would criticize these theories, in which Clinton in particular would go on to say "These fantasies of Featherston not dying in July of 1944 are of the same place of nonsense where the Moon Landing Hoax theories are at. No serious historians would ever take such claims seriously." Furthermore, the various conspiracy theories on Featherston's Survival have been dismissed by historians such as Richard Overy. However, some people to this day still believe in these Conspiracy Theories, in a survey taken by the Cassius Madison Institute in 2015, researchers found that about 6.3% of Americans and Texans believe that Jake Featherston did not die at the hands of Cassius Madison on July 7th, 1944. The researchers also discovered that the believers of this theory was higher amongst Neo-Freedomites with about 42% of believers. Down the decades, many books on the subject have been made on the subject as well as television productions such the infamous History Channel series called Hunting Featherston as well as a drama series called Butternut Snake: The Escape of Jake Featherston which was based on the book of the same name.​
 
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