Photos from Featherston's Confederacy/ TL-191

[Darth_Kiryan]

John S. McCain Sr. (1884-1943) was a Confederate Admiral who commanded Confederate ships in the Atlantic Ocean. McCain grew a strong animosity towards Featherston due to his opinions interfering with McCain's tactics. While on leave in Mississippi, McCain was killed by the Freedom Party Guards in 1943 in an attack that was masked as a black communist assassination to further the Population Reduction.

Senator John S. McCain III (D-MI) addresses the Remembrance Center in 2009 on combating Neo-Freedomite activities in his home state and how to preserve national unity between north and south for generations to come.

^I think the Chileans offer us some pretty good photographic material to use as the Americans of TL-191.

Oh, what about John McCain Jr.? Did he survive the war?

Perhaps, but if he didn't I'm wondering whether it would be by the U.S. Navy or the Freedom Party.

Considering that you have John McCain Sr as a Confederate Navy man, and he died in 1943, it would be obvious that John McCain Jr would be Confederate Navy as well, as I do not see reason why he would not be a Confederate between 1911-1943. And I do not practically see the man being loyal if his beliefs are similar to his fathers, but I do not see him defecting until after his fathers death, because even he would be suspicious then - also, if John Jr was in the US navy during the SGW, then its questionable if John Sr would actually have risen that high in the Confederate Navy, with a son in the US military and with his own anti-Featherston beliefs....

John Jr defecting after his fathers death is believable, but he could also have been removed as well with his father at the same time if he held similar convictions. Of course, if you do have him in the US navy, he would be consistently watched and his defection could be seen as a sign of anti-Featherston cooperation with the US, especially if it came to an expert on the Confederate Navy.

You could quite easily have John McCain III as one of the new up and coming Southern Senators of the next generation after the war.

 

[United Republic]

Considering that you have John McCain Sr as a Confederate Navy man, and he died in 1943, it would be obvious that John McCain Jr would be Confederate Navy as well, as I do not see reason why he would not be a Confederate between 1911-1943. And I do not practically see the man being loyal if his beliefs are similar to his fathers, but I do not see him defecting until after his fathers death, because even he would be suspicious then - also, if John Jr was in the US navy during the SGW, then its questionable if John Sr would actually have risen that high in the Confederate Navy, with a son in the US military and with his own anti-Featherston beliefs....

John Jr defecting after his fathers death is believable, but he could also have been removed as well with his father at the same time if he held similar convictions. Of course, if you do have him in the US navy, he would be consistently watched and his defection could be seen as a sign of anti-Featherston cooperation with the US, especially if it came to an expert on the Confederate Navy.

You could quite easily have John McCain III as one of the new up and coming Southern Senators of the next generation after the war.

What I meant "by the U.S. Navy" was that he would be killed as a Confederate in action; there's no doubt in my mind that his son would be a C.S. Naval officer.

 

[United Republic]

The controversial photograph of then-Congressman George Wallace (D-AL) speaking at a Sons of Confederate Veterans meeting in 1974. Despite the organization being anti-Freedomite and Wallace speaking against any rebellions against the U.S. government, the image of Wallace standing in front of the Confederate war flag left a sour image in the minds of northern Democrats and Socialists of the ex-Confederates joining their government. Wallace was forced to resign in October of that year under fierce pressure.

California Senator Ronald Reagan accepts his party's nomination at the 1976 Democratic National Convention in New York City, NY. Shortly after, Reagan selected Michigan Governor George W. Romney as a running-mate. Senator Reagan used controversial tactics of campaigning in the ex-Confederacy to attract southern voters; a tactic that was not used by both Democrats and Socialists. Because of his work, the south turned predominantly Democratic and regional parties virtually disappeared in months. Reagan would go on to decisively defeat President Henry M. Jackson (S-WA) in a landslide victory.

President Ronald Reagan and First Lady Nancy make a campaign stop in New Orleans, LA, during his bid for reelection in 1980. Similarly to 1976, Reagan would score a decisive victory; this time against Socialist Senator George McGovern of Dakota.

Senator Hillary Rodham Newton* (S-IL) and Senator Bill Blythe (D-AR) seen together in 2012 upon signing new legislation. Newton and Blythe are known to be strong bipartisan leaders who have worked together to get Democrats and Socialists in Congress to pass legislation that fits both of their views. Many have described Newton's and Blythe's cooperation as one of the "greatest non-romantic couple of the century."

*Hillary Clinton marries a fictional Illinois politician with the surname "Newton"

 

[Spencer Pease]

Timeline-191 famous speeches part 3: Theodore Roosevelt's second inaugural address.

Without the fighting edge, no man and no nation can be really great, for in the really great man, as in the really great nation, there must be both the heart of gold and the temper of steel.

In 1862, England and France said it was the duty of those two nations to mediate between the United States and the Confederate States, and they asserted that any Americans who in such event refused to accept their mediation and to stop the war would thereby show themselves the enemies of peace. Even Abraham Lincoln regarded this as an unfriendly act to the United States, but he had not the strength to withstand it. And so in regarding it, as in few other things, Lincoln was right. Looking back from a distance of more than fifty yars, we can clearly see as much. Such mediation was a hostile act, not only to the United States but to humanity.

Very many of the men and women who are at times misled into demanding peace, as if it were itself an end instead of being a means of righteousness, are folk of good will and sound intelligence who need only seriously to consider the facts, and who can then be trusted to think aright and act aright. Well-meaning folk who always clamor for peace without regard as to whether peace brings justice or injustice should ponder such facts, and then should still their clamor.

England and France and the cuckoo's egg they planted in the American nest of freedom humiliated our great nation again a generation later, and have sought to encircle us on our own continent ever since, just as they and the Russian tyrants have sought to encircle our partner, friend, and ally, the German Empire, on the European continent. They have tried, and they have failed.

I promise you this: my second term will show us the victory we have longed for since those now old were young. The debt we owe is old, too, and has accumulated much interest through the years. We shall repay it in full, and more besides. We must stand absolutely for the righteousness of revenge, and we must remember that to do so would have been utterly without avail if we had not possessed the strength and tenacity of spirit which back righteousness with deeds and not mere words. Until we complete our vengeance, we must keep ourselves ready, high of heart and undaunted of soul, to back our rights with our strength.

 

[Adolfhitler]

You think Obama could be president in this timeline?

 

[United Republic]

You think Obama could be president in this timeline?

Probably not as blacks may have a general fear of living in North America with the Population Reduction in their minds.

Obama could, however, be President of Haiti due to many African-Americans migrating there after the SGW.

 

[Captain Reynolds]

not sure if they would have fear in North America. I think more would not want to live in the former Confederacy. We might see more of them moving to the Northern States to try and start anew

 

[Adolfhitler]

Or the president of Kenya

 

[Spencer Pease]

Timeline-191 Famous Speeches part 4: Charles La Follette's civil right's speech (and the important message in the second half). This, personally, is my favorite speech from the whole series. Some parts of it are left out as shown in the book, but I'll say what I think was said. I'm taking out some parts I believe to have been unnecessary, but I'll also edit/add some things to make it intriguing.


I come before you today-I come before the people of the United States today-to help right a wrong that has continued in our country for too long.

We do not have a large number of Negro citizens in the United States. Most Negroes in North America have always lived in the Confederate States. This is partly our own fault, as we have been slow to accept refugees from the oppression that has long existed there. not caring for a man because of the color of his skin is one thing. Leaving him to die in a country that hates him is something else again. It is a mistake, a reprehensible mistake, and not one we will continue to make. Any human being, regardless of color, is entitled to live free. I will ask that legislation be introduced in Congress to make sure this comes true.

And, I fear, we have committed another injustice. For too long, we have believed that Negro men lack the courage to fight for their country. We have never conscripted them into the Army or even let them volunteer. In the Navy, we let them cook food and tend engines, but no more. This is not right, not if they are men like any others, citizens like any others.

As if further proof were needed, colored guerrilla fighters in the Confederate States have shown beyond the shadow of a doubt that courage is not a question of black and white. Without their brave efforts, our war against Jake Featherston's vicious tyranny would be even harder and more perilous than it is. No law prevents the enlistment and conscription of Negroes into the armed forces of the United States. We have relied on long-standing custom instead. I say to you that this custom will stand no longer. By its dreadful example, the Confederacy shows us how evil prejudice of any sort is. This being so, I have today issued an executive order forbidding discrimination on the basis of race in the recruitment, training, and promotion of all U.S. military forces.

As I have said before, 1943 has brought us victories beyond our imagination. We have demonstrated our resilience towards aggression and tyranny, and have created a fighting machine that, alongside our allies, can bring our enemies to their knees. The tide of war has turned, and 1944 is only two weeks away. It will be the fourth year of the war. But I pledge to you, people of the United States, it will also be the last! This is our year of victory!

North America must have peace. Four times now, during one long lifetime, war has ravaged our continent, bringing infinite misery to its people. It must never come again-never I say! But you mustn't worry-because it will never come again. Before the War of Secession, the United States of America triumphed over England in the struggle that created our great nation, and again in the fight that gave birth to our national anthem. Then we defeated Mexico, planting our flag from coast to coast, from sea to shinning sea. We dominated this continent, being the sole power at its heart. And when this cruel war ends at, we shall do the same again!

 

[m0585]

U.S. troops of the 5th Army fighting their way through the streets of Richmond; March, 1944.

 

[Spencer Pease]

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U.S. troops of the 5th Army fighting their way through the streets of Richmond; March, 1944.

Which army group was 5th Army in?

 

[rob2001]

Which army group was 5th Army in?

In timeline 191 filling in the gaps, one post said it was army group east.

 

[m0585]

I assigned 5th Army to Army Group East in the post that I'm doing for the latter.

 

[Spencer Pease]

I assigned 5th Army to Army Group East in the post that I'm doing for the latter.

Yeah I saw part one for it on Filling the Gaps. I like it. Will you do the other army groups too?

 

[m0585]

Yeah I saw part one for it on Filling the Gaps. I like it. Will you do the other army groups too?

Someone far more talented than I did a wonderful post in Army Group Midwest. I might try to cover the others though.

 

[Spencer Pease]

Someone far more talented than I did a wonderful post in Army Group Midwest. I might try to cover the others though.

Could you send me the link to the page with the article please?

 

[m0585]

Could you send me the link to the page with the article please?

I stand corrected. U.S. Army Groups (other than the ongoing Army Group East) have yet to be done. President Mahan, however, has done several outstanding contributions on various U.S. Armies during the SGW. I believe they're between pages 107-115 on the "TL 191: Filling the Gaps". They're very well written and detailed.

 

[New Cleo Genesis]

California Senator Ronald Reagan accepts his party's nomination at the 1976 Democratic National Convention in New York City, NY. Shortly after, Reagan selected Michigan Governor George W. Romney as a running-mate. Senator Reagan used controversial tactics of campaigning in the ex-Confederacy to attract southern voters; a tactic that was not used by both Democrats and Socialists. Because of his work, the south turned predominantly Democratic and regional parties virtually disappeared in months. Reagan would go on to decisively defeat President Henry M. Jackson (S-WA) in a landslide victory.

I presume the Mormons have (re)integrated pretty well by the 70's?

 

[United Republic]

That or the Romney family converts to Protestant Christianity at some point before

 

[m0585]

U.S. troops of Army Group Central using artillery to suppress Confederate defenders in Memphis prior to the assault by U.S. airborne troops; August, 1943.