Poster for Marvel's Spider-Verse (2023).
Also starring:
Millie Bobby Brown as Anna-May Parker/Spiderling
Caleb McLaughlin as Miles Morales/Ultimate Spiderman
Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy/Ghost-Spider aka Spider-Gwen
Shailene Woodley as Jessica Drew/Spider-Woman
Nicholas Cage as Peter Parker/The Spider aka Spiderman-Noir
David Tennant as Cletus Kasady/Carnage
Photos from Alternate Worlds II (read FAQ first)
Deleted member 82792
The MCU better give us this movie
Poster for Marvel's Spider-Verse (2023).
Also starring:
Millie Bobby Brown as Anna-May Parker/Spiderling
Caleb McLaughlin as Miles Morales/Ultimate Spiderman
Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy/Ghost-Spider aka Spider-Gwen
Shailene Woodley as Jessica Drew/Spider-Woman
Nicholas Cage as Peter Parker/The Spider aka Spiderman-Noir
David Tennant as Cletus Kasady/Carnage
Preview for a potential future timeline
Land of Confusion:
Genesis
With the advent of the Atomic Bomb mankind entered a new and deadly chapter in the annals of human history as the shadowy of the emerging Long Game between the United States and Soviet Union covered the world. Yet for a brief moment their was a beacon of hope the development of nuclear fusion, the Mars landings, Thorium powered cars, lunar bases, the greenification of the Sahara and gene therapy treatment showed a window into a brighter future just around the corner. Only for that light of a brighter tomorrow to br snuffed out on the December 21, 2012, during the final hours of the Third World war as the world was engulfed by nuclear winter.
Most of those tiny few who survived did so by taking refuge in the Sanctuaries, massive subterranean bunker complexes designed to preserve mankind from the fires of Armageddon. Only for disaster to strike with less than a quarter of these Sanctuaries surviving the first few days and years following the atomic holocaust. Many suffered from systems breakdowns after decades of disrepair after their original construction, overpopulation beyond what they were originally intended for and catastrophic shortages of food and water. Forcing countless survivors or their initial descendants to flee into the irradiated wasteland. It wouldn't be until a hundred and fifty years after Armageddon that the few "true" Sanctuaries would open their doors to the surface, finding a world changed beyond recognition.
Chief Big Jim of the Bios-Bonco tribe not everyone who survived the fires of the apocalypse did so by taking refuge in the Sanctuaries. A few on the surface managed to perserve against all odds through the ensuing nuclear winter, famine and bio-mutagenic plagues, hiding out in subway tunnels, caves and even old root cellars, later being joined by the survivors of the false sanctuaries. Yet the End of the World wasn't kind with many having devolved into primitive tribes in the following years with few possessing possessing even the most basic knowledge of agriculture or metallurgy. Their way of life would be forever changed with the emergence of the true Sanctuaries and the arrival of the new threat to all mankind, from the desert wastes one of the last great sins of the Third World War.
Raiders one of the greatest dangers of the post apocalyptic world, savage killers who were able to uncover or maintain catches of Old World weaponry, equipment or even vehicles. Finding it easier to attack defenseless villages and caravans for supplies instead of growing food for themselves. Often taking captives to work as slaves either for themselves at their keeps or to be sold off like cattle to the emerging slaver cities of the post atomic wastes for wealth and more weapons.
Genesis
With the advent of the Atomic Bomb mankind entered a new and deadly chapter in the annals of human history as the shadowy of the emerging Long Game between the United States and Soviet Union covered the world. Yet for a brief moment their was a beacon of hope the development of nuclear fusion, the Mars landings, Thorium powered cars, lunar bases, the greenification of the Sahara and gene therapy treatment showed a window into a brighter future just around the corner. Only for that light of a brighter tomorrow to br snuffed out on the December 21, 2012, during the final hours of the Third World war as the world was engulfed by nuclear winter.
Most of those tiny few who survived did so by taking refuge in the Sanctuaries, massive subterranean bunker complexes designed to preserve mankind from the fires of Armageddon. Only for disaster to strike with less than a quarter of these Sanctuaries surviving the first few days and years following the atomic holocaust. Many suffered from systems breakdowns after decades of disrepair after their original construction, overpopulation beyond what they were originally intended for and catastrophic shortages of food and water. Forcing countless survivors or their initial descendants to flee into the irradiated wasteland. It wouldn't be until a hundred and fifty years after Armageddon that the few "true" Sanctuaries would open their doors to the surface, finding a world changed beyond recognition.
Chief Big Jim of the Bios-Bonco tribe not everyone who survived the fires of the apocalypse did so by taking refuge in the Sanctuaries. A few on the surface managed to perserve against all odds through the ensuing nuclear winter, famine and bio-mutagenic plagues, hiding out in subway tunnels, caves and even old root cellars, later being joined by the survivors of the false sanctuaries. Yet the End of the World wasn't kind with many having devolved into primitive tribes in the following years with few possessing possessing even the most basic knowledge of agriculture or metallurgy. Their way of life would be forever changed with the emergence of the true Sanctuaries and the arrival of the new threat to all mankind, from the desert wastes one of the last great sins of the Third World War.
Raiders one of the greatest dangers of the post apocalyptic world, savage killers who were able to uncover or maintain catches of Old World weaponry, equipment or even vehicles. Finding it easier to attack defenseless villages and caravans for supplies instead of growing food for themselves. Often taking captives to work as slaves either for themselves at their keeps or to be sold off like cattle to the emerging slaver cities of the post atomic wastes for wealth and more weapons.
I’m just gonna leave this herePreview for a potential future timeline
Land of Confusion:
Genesis
With the advent of the Atomic Bomb mankind entered a new and deadly chapter in the annals of human history as the shadowy of the emerging Long Game between the United States and Soviet Union covered the world. Yet for a brief moment their was a beacon of hope the development of nuclear fusion, the Mars landings, Thorium powered cars, lunar bases, the greenification of the Sahara and gene therapy treatment showed a window into a brighter future just around the corner. Only for that light of a brighter tomorrow to br snuffed out on the December 21, 2012, during the final hours of the Third World war as the world was engulfed by nuclear winter.
Most of those tiny few who survived did so by taking refuge in the Sanctuaries, massive subterranean bunker complexes designed to preserve mankind from the fires of Armageddon. Only for disaster to strike with less than a quarter of these Sanctuaries surviving the first few days and years following the atomic holocaust. Many suffered from systems breakdowns after decades of disrepair after their original construction, overpopulation beyond what they were originally intended for and catastrophic shortages of food and water. Forcing countless survivors or their initial descendants to flee into the irradiated wasteland. It wouldn't be until a hundred and fifty years after Armageddon that the few "true" Sanctuaries would open their doors to the surface, finding a world changed beyond recognition.
Chief Big Jim of the Bios-Bonco tribe not everyone who survived the fires of the apocalypse did so by taking refuge in the Sanctuaries. A few on the surface managed to perserve against all odds through the ensuing nuclear winter, famine and bio-mutagenic plagues, hiding out in subway tunnels, caves and even old root cellars, later being joined by the survivors of the false sanctuaries. Yet the End of the World wasn't kind with many having devolved into primitive tribes in the following years with few possessing possessing even the most basic knowledge of agriculture or metallurgy. Their way of life would be forever changed with the emergence of the true Sanctuaries and the arrival of the new threat to all mankind, from the desert wastes one of the last great sins of the Third World War.
Raiders one of the greatest dangers of the post apocalyptic world, savage killers who were able to uncover or maintain catches of Old World weaponry, equipment or even vehicles. Finding it easier to attack defenseless villages and caravans for supplies instead of growing food for themselves. Often taking captives to work as slaves either for themselves at their keeps or to be sold off like cattle to the emerging slaver cities of the post atomic wastes for wealth and more weapons.
I was watching a fallout video when I saw the post and soon as I saw the nuke I just knew.How'd you know...
Oddly enough pre war USA from fallout looks like Legion.
Syndicate
(American Heroes)
Note these are just a few American heroes @Danthefan28 can add some more if he wants since some of the characters is his.
artist drawing of the Atlanta urban legend known as the Reaper.
Iron Claw mercenary turn hero after a tragic event that made him lose his arm.
photo of the New York hero Ace Of Spades who is often compared to iron man due to the suit.
Bishop Castle by day a regular reporter for the Ward company own New Moon Newspapers by night he dawns the mask and become BlackPower.
Officer Santell who would become a vampire after being turn by Adze (yes it a different Adze from Blood Rights...well kinda, ever heard of multiverses theory )
Amanda Waller aka Miss America
Rico Hunter.
(American Heroes)
Note these are just a few American heroes @Danthefan28 can add some more if he wants since some of the characters is his.
artist drawing of the Atlanta urban legend known as the Reaper.
Iron Claw mercenary turn hero after a tragic event that made him lose his arm.
photo of the New York hero Ace Of Spades who is often compared to iron man due to the suit.
Bishop Castle by day a regular reporter for the Ward company own New Moon Newspapers by night he dawns the mask and become BlackPower.
Officer Santell who would become a vampire after being turn by Adze (yes it a different Adze from Blood Rights...well kinda, ever heard of multiverses theory
)Amanda Waller aka Miss America
Rico Hunter.
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No More Nowheres: OUTLAWS.
In the midst of the chaos in 1979, serial killer Ted Bundy would escape from Raiford Prison in Florida. After his escape Bundy would continue along the east cost, leaving behind a trail of death before he would eventually become the victim of a lynch mob in Brooklyn in 1987.
Infamous Australian outlaw and killer Ivan Milat. It was in 1998 that he committed his "Crown Achievement" as he puts it in his journal, assassinating King George VII, in an act believed to have been ordered by "The Iron Regime". He would meet his end that same year, to the hands of a member of the New Royal Army.
Sophie The Ogre, Among the other names chosen for her include "The Ogre of Staten". Not much is known about her pre war, what is known is that she is among the more feared gang lords in New York, mostly for her ruthlessness, her army of crazed followers, and the image she and her gang has gained overtime, sparing no one, not even children. She and her gang is among the few gangs which all the boroughs and organisations in New York can unite against, besides from Queens.
In the midst of the chaos in 1979, serial killer Ted Bundy would escape from Raiford Prison in Florida. After his escape Bundy would continue along the east cost, leaving behind a trail of death before he would eventually become the victim of a lynch mob in Brooklyn in 1987.
Infamous Australian outlaw and killer Ivan Milat. It was in 1998 that he committed his "Crown Achievement" as he puts it in his journal, assassinating King George VII, in an act believed to have been ordered by "The Iron Regime". He would meet his end that same year, to the hands of a member of the New Royal Army.
Sophie The Ogre, Among the other names chosen for her include "The Ogre of Staten". Not much is known about her pre war, what is known is that she is among the more feared gang lords in New York, mostly for her ruthlessness, her army of crazed followers, and the image she and her gang has gained overtime, sparing no one, not even children. She and her gang is among the few gangs which all the boroughs and organisations in New York can unite against, besides from Queens.
Land of Confusion
Genesis
Of the various group to of fallen in the Apocalypse it was the Mormons of the great Salt Lake who managed to count themselves amongst those who survived. Having built up a sizable individual stocks before the war with a few of the smaller communities managing to pull through Judgment Day and the following years. Later joined by their cousins from the salt lake Sanctuary over fifty years ago. Who had managed to perserve a wealth of old world knowledge and equipment, since then they've expanded across Northern Utah, Western Wyoming & Colorado and North Idaho forging a state reminiscent of the late 19th and early 20th century.
Portrait of Joshua Clarke famed Mormon missionary, frontiersman and bounty hunter famed across the Republic of Desert for his exploits converting tribal bands, defending the frontier, hunting down raiders, outlaws and deadly mutants.
Genesis
Of the various group to of fallen in the Apocalypse it was the Mormons of the great Salt Lake who managed to count themselves amongst those who survived. Having built up a sizable individual stocks before the war with a few of the smaller communities managing to pull through Judgment Day and the following years. Later joined by their cousins from the salt lake Sanctuary over fifty years ago. Who had managed to perserve a wealth of old world knowledge and equipment, since then they've expanded across Northern Utah, Western Wyoming & Colorado and North Idaho forging a state reminiscent of the late 19th and early 20th century.
Portrait of Joshua Clarke famed Mormon missionary, frontiersman and bounty hunter famed across the Republic of Desert for his exploits converting tribal bands, defending the frontier, hunting down raiders, outlaws and deadly mutants.
Fallout: New Deseret? Now that's a game I would play in a heartbeat.Land of Confusion
Genesis
Of the various group to of fallen in the Apocalypse it was the Mormons of the great Salt Lake who managed to count themselves amongst those who survived. Having built up a sizable individual stocks before the war with a few of the smaller communities managing to pull through Judgment Day and the following years. Later joined by their cousins from the salt lake Sanctuary over fifty years ago. Who had managed to perserve a wealth of old world knowledge and equipment, since then they've expanded across Northern Utah, Western Wyoming & Colorado and North Idaho forging a state reminiscent of the late 19th and early 20th century.
Portrait of Joshua Clarke famed Mormon missionary, frontiersman and bounty hunter famed across the Republic of Desert for his exploits converting tribal bands, defending the frontier, hunting down raiders, outlaws and deadly mutants.
Basically yeah though the wild west themes are more pronounced on the desert Frontier.
Blood Rights:
(To boldly go)
Photo of Neil Armstrong followed by the second man on the moon Buzz Aldrin then the first woman on the moon Nina Robert then the first vampire Lewis Caron who would be the first people and vampire to set foot on the moon, but not for along.
photo of the Soviet landing only a few weeks later August 1969
2018 concept for the joint soviet and American mother ship for a permanent mission to Mars although both nations had visited the red planet throughout the late 80’s and 90’s unlike the moon they don’t have any real long term basses.
photo of the Soviet moon base sometime (2002) to save on money most of the inhabitants on the base were vampires which only need little life support and food.
The US and AFN moon base (200).
(To boldly go)
Photo of Neil Armstrong followed by the second man on the moon Buzz Aldrin then the first woman on the moon Nina Robert then the first vampire Lewis Caron who would be the first people and vampire to set foot on the moon, but not for along.
photo of the Soviet landing only a few weeks later August 1969
2018 concept for the joint soviet and American mother ship for a permanent mission to Mars although both nations had visited the red planet throughout the late 80’s and 90’s unlike the moon they don’t have any real long term basses.
photo of the Soviet moon base sometime (2002) to save on money most of the inhabitants on the base were vampires which only need little life support and food.
The US and AFN moon base (200).
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Fire in the North VI
The flag and Parliament Building of the Colonial Union of America, located in Concordia, administrative capital of the Colonial Union, c. 1776 . The CUA was the product of intense discussion between downtime colonials, downtime British politicians and up-timers who'd relocated to Britain in the wake of the Displacement: a federal union of British colonies in North America that was being gradually developed over the course of the 1700s but was formally chartered at the end of the Three Years' War and the Planters' Rebellion in 1753, arising out of a growing patchwork of self-governance structures for the colonies. The official chartering saw the final creation of the CUA Parliament, the office of Prime Minister, and the office of Governor-General representing the Crown. The CUA represents the fastest-growing part of the Anglo-Prussian Union, with immigration from both Britain and Prussia sped up by advanced knowledge of what lies on the continent and by scouting via air. However, they are by no means the only 'game' on the continent...
The Parliament Building was built very much according to up-time ideas. However, its style - though eye-catching - would not prove a popular one, with new takes on more traditional styles ultimately being the norm.
Sir David Phillips, British inventor, engineer and anti-slavery campaigner. An up-timer British engineer of Trinidadian descent, and a visiting Professor at Mälardalen University College, he did not have to return to Britain. Post-Displacement, Västerås had offered any foreign nationals permanent residency within the city, for obvious reasons in many cases. However, many down-time countries, desperate for skilled knowledge to assist in gearing up, would offer legal guarantees of safety and generous payment for citizens of their up-time equivalents who agreed to return and aid the nation. Phillips was one such, though it would primarily be to try to do his part in ending the slave trade that he would travel to Britain, seeing it as his 'duty to the past'.
Phillips would be of great assistance to the United Kingdom in kick-starting its industrial growth, and he would leverage his position and the connections he made from this to aid the abolitionist movement in Britain and elsewhere. While he would face determined opposition, royal patronage meant that moving against him openly was made extremely difficult for his opponents, and his undoubted intelligence - particularly his leading role in the development of steam engine technology - would allow him to prove the lie of black people being unintelligent.
Ultimately, legislation passed in the 1730s and 1740s would see the gradual ending of slavery in Britain and its colonies, with the institution being allowed to 'die a natural death' as slave importation was banned and those born to slaves from 1755 under the new legislation would be considered free automatically, along with it being made easier for slaves to buy themselves out of slavery*. Phillips would be greatly honoured for his role in it, though there would be those severely incensed by the ending of the institution...
Colonel Abraham Grant, a notorious leader of rebel forces against the Crown during the Planter's Rebellion (1750-1752), and men of his regiment 'Grant's Goddamns'. A major factor in the loss of the Canadas during the Three Years' War** was an uprising launched by disaffected slaveholders in the American Colonies. Styling themselves the 'United States of America', they used the iconography and rhetoric of the American nation from the future that Västerås had hailed from before the Displacement, but in actuality their 'Glorious Revolution' was led primarily by wealthy slave-holders and plantocrats who wished to establish a nation in which they and their interests were dominant. Although they would fight a particularly hard fight, coming perilously close to overrunning the colonies during the first year of the Rebellion, their lack of popular support and the arrival of fresh regiments from Britain to supplement the colonial militias would ultimately see the defeat of the Rebellion, and support for the Crown being reaffirmed in North America - something that the establishment of the CUA and a parliament for the entirety of British North America - the representation that the Founding Fathers of another world might have demanded - would cement.
Abraham Grant, a plantation owner from Virginia, was a particularly charismatic and ostentatious leader of rebel forces. Using up-time works that he had carefully assembled as a reference, he ordered tailored uniforms for himself that combined aspects of the uniforms of the other-worldly United States and Confederate States militaries, and styled his leadership on a number of figures from that other world. However, he was also a man of exceeding ruthlessness, and was hanged after the war for the killing of prisoners of war - including, by all accounts, the man who took the above photograph - and the killing or unlawful enslaving of free blacks.
The Rebellion was made possible thanks to Spanish funds and arms, dating from arrangements made some years before the war broke out. None of the other belligerent powers admitted to assisting the rebels - and in most cases, they did not. In its aftermath, Britain - with the consent of many colonial leaders - ordered universal emancipation across the colonies, effective immediately, as a punitive measure designed to prevent would-be rebellions by wealthy slaveholders.
The flag and Parliament Building of the Colonial Union of America, located in Concordia, administrative capital of the Colonial Union, c. 1776 . The CUA was the product of intense discussion between downtime colonials, downtime British politicians and up-timers who'd relocated to Britain in the wake of the Displacement: a federal union of British colonies in North America that was being gradually developed over the course of the 1700s but was formally chartered at the end of the Three Years' War and the Planters' Rebellion in 1753, arising out of a growing patchwork of self-governance structures for the colonies. The official chartering saw the final creation of the CUA Parliament, the office of Prime Minister, and the office of Governor-General representing the Crown. The CUA represents the fastest-growing part of the Anglo-Prussian Union, with immigration from both Britain and Prussia sped up by advanced knowledge of what lies on the continent and by scouting via air. However, they are by no means the only 'game' on the continent...
The Parliament Building was built very much according to up-time ideas. However, its style - though eye-catching - would not prove a popular one, with new takes on more traditional styles ultimately being the norm.
Sir David Phillips, British inventor, engineer and anti-slavery campaigner. An up-timer British engineer of Trinidadian descent, and a visiting Professor at Mälardalen University College, he did not have to return to Britain. Post-Displacement, Västerås had offered any foreign nationals permanent residency within the city, for obvious reasons in many cases. However, many down-time countries, desperate for skilled knowledge to assist in gearing up, would offer legal guarantees of safety and generous payment for citizens of their up-time equivalents who agreed to return and aid the nation. Phillips was one such, though it would primarily be to try to do his part in ending the slave trade that he would travel to Britain, seeing it as his 'duty to the past'.
Phillips would be of great assistance to the United Kingdom in kick-starting its industrial growth, and he would leverage his position and the connections he made from this to aid the abolitionist movement in Britain and elsewhere. While he would face determined opposition, royal patronage meant that moving against him openly was made extremely difficult for his opponents, and his undoubted intelligence - particularly his leading role in the development of steam engine technology - would allow him to prove the lie of black people being unintelligent.
Ultimately, legislation passed in the 1730s and 1740s would see the gradual ending of slavery in Britain and its colonies, with the institution being allowed to 'die a natural death' as slave importation was banned and those born to slaves from 1755 under the new legislation would be considered free automatically, along with it being made easier for slaves to buy themselves out of slavery*. Phillips would be greatly honoured for his role in it, though there would be those severely incensed by the ending of the institution...
Colonel Abraham Grant, a notorious leader of rebel forces against the Crown during the Planter's Rebellion (1750-1752), and men of his regiment 'Grant's Goddamns'. A major factor in the loss of the Canadas during the Three Years' War** was an uprising launched by disaffected slaveholders in the American Colonies. Styling themselves the 'United States of America', they used the iconography and rhetoric of the American nation from the future that Västerås had hailed from before the Displacement, but in actuality their 'Glorious Revolution' was led primarily by wealthy slave-holders and plantocrats who wished to establish a nation in which they and their interests were dominant. Although they would fight a particularly hard fight, coming perilously close to overrunning the colonies during the first year of the Rebellion, their lack of popular support and the arrival of fresh regiments from Britain to supplement the colonial militias would ultimately see the defeat of the Rebellion, and support for the Crown being reaffirmed in North America - something that the establishment of the CUA and a parliament for the entirety of British North America - the representation that the Founding Fathers of another world might have demanded - would cement.
Abraham Grant, a plantation owner from Virginia, was a particularly charismatic and ostentatious leader of rebel forces. Using up-time works that he had carefully assembled as a reference, he ordered tailored uniforms for himself that combined aspects of the uniforms of the other-worldly United States and Confederate States militaries, and styled his leadership on a number of figures from that other world. However, he was also a man of exceeding ruthlessness, and was hanged after the war for the killing of prisoners of war - including, by all accounts, the man who took the above photograph - and the killing or unlawful enslaving of free blacks.
The Rebellion was made possible thanks to Spanish funds and arms, dating from arrangements made some years before the war broke out. None of the other belligerent powers admitted to assisting the rebels - and in most cases, they did not. In its aftermath, Britain - with the consent of many colonial leaders - ordered universal emancipation across the colonies, effective immediately, as a punitive measure designed to prevent would-be rebellions by wealthy slaveholders.
A/N: *Think the legislation that Lee passes in Guns of the South, only on an accelerated timetable.
** As in, if the Planters hadn't risen up, the colonial units who had to fight them off could have come to the aid of the Canadas. Funnily enough, while France benefited from the whole thing, they truly didn't support the Planters, seeing them as a bunch of utter lunatics who'd only mean trouble if they somehow succeeded.
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I can just see downtime news papers rallying against it, finding the thing hideous. "Never before have I laid eyes upon such a hideous structure, this so called building is nothing more than a monstrous hive of a glass and wasted steel. What clearly should have been an elegant display of architectural designs, the walls themselves engraved with the finest moldings and paintings is nothing more than a garish, monolithic monstrosity."Fire in the North VI
The flag and Parliament Building of the Colonial Union of America, located in Concordia, administrative capital of the Colonial Union, c. 1776 . The CUA was the product of intense discussion between downtime colonials, downtime British politicians and up-timers who'd relocated to Britain in the wake of the Displacement: a federal union of British colonies in North America that was being gradually developed over the course of the 1700s but was formally chartered at the end of the Three Years' War and the Planters' Rebellion in 1753, arising out of a growing patchwork of self-governance structures for the colonies. The official chartering saw the final creation of the CUA Parliament, the office of Prime Minister, and the office of Governor-General representing the Crown. The CUA represents the fastest-growing part of the Anglo-Prussian Union, with immigration from both Britain and Prussia sped up by advanced knowledge of what lies on the continent and by scouting via air. However, they are by no means the only 'game' on the continent...
The Parliament Building was built very much according to up-time ideas. However, its style - though eye-catching - would not prove a popular one, with new takes on more traditional styles ultimately being the norm.
- Daily Continental 1755
I can't remember if Canada went back to the French or if it ended up under the Swedes here. Though generally North America probably ended up much more divided than OTL. Maybe with the members of the planters rebellion fleeing westward into Texas...
Sir David Phillips, British inventor, engineer and anti-slavery campaigner. An up-timer British engineer of Trinidadian descent, and a visiting Professor at Mälardalen University College, he did not have to return to Britain. Post-Displacement, Västerås had offered any foreign nationals permanent residency within the city, for obvious reasons in many cases. However, many down-time countries, desperate for skilled knowledge to assist in gearing up, would offer legal guarantees of safety and generous payment for citizens of their up-time equivalents who agreed to return and aid the nation. Phillips was one such, though it would primarily be to try to do his part in ending the slave trade that he would travel to Britain, seeing it as his 'duty to the past'.
Phillips would be of great assistance to the United Kingdom in kick-starting its industrial growth, and he would leverage his position and the connections he made from this to aid the abolitionist movement in Britain and elsewhere. While he would face determined opposition, royal patronage meant that moving against him openly was made extremely difficult for his opponents, and his undoubted intelligence - particularly his leading role in the development of steam engine technology - would allow him to prove the lie of black people being unintelligent.
Ultimately, legislation passed in the 1730s and 1740s would see the gradual ending of slavery in Britain and its colonies, with the institution being allowed to 'die a natural death' as slave importation was banned and those born to slaves from 1755 under the new legislation would be considered free automatically, along with it being made easier for slaves to buy themselves out of slavery*. Phillips would be greatly honoured for his role in it, though there would be those severely incensed by the ending of the institution...
Well glad that practice was ended though they might have rushed it a bit. Wonder how well the African American populations were able to integrate themselves into North American society or immigrated elsewhere.Does anyone else find it ironic that the "possible" ancestor of President Grant ended up as the Bedford Forest of this timeline? Personally I'm kinda picturing their uniforms looking like a cross between Confederate, Spanish-American and WW1 America during the rebellion. Along with their weaponry for the most part looking straight out of the 19th century, with certain exceptions...
Colonel Abraham Grant, a notorious leader of rebel forces against the Crown during the Planter's Rebellion (1750-1752), and men of his regiment 'Grant's Goddamns'. A major factor in the loss of the Canadas during the Three Years' War** was an uprising launched by disaffected slaveholders in the American Colonies. Styling themselves the 'United States of America', they used the iconography and rhetoric of the American nation from the future that Västerås had hailed from before the Displacement, but in actuality their 'Glorious Revolution' was led primarily by wealthy slave-holders and plantocrats who wished to establish a nation in which they and their interests were dominant. Although they would fight a particularly hard fight, coming perilously close to overrunning the colonies during the first year of the Rebellion, their lack of popular support and the arrival of fresh regiments from Britain to supplement the colonial militias would ultimately see the defeat of the Rebellion, and support for the Crown being reaffirmed in North America - something that the establishment of the CUA and a parliament for the entirety of British North America - the representation that the Founding Fathers of another world might have demanded - would cement.
Abraham Grant, a plantation owner from Virginia, was a particularly charismatic and ostentatious leader of rebel forces. Using up-time works that he had carefully assembled as a reference, he ordered tailored uniforms for himself that combined aspects of the uniforms of the other-worldly United States and Confederate States militaries, and styled his leadership on a number of figures from that other world. However, he was also a man of exceeding ruthlessness, and was hanged after the war for the killing of prisoners of war - including, by all accounts, the man who took the above photograph - and the killing or unlawful enslaving of free blacks.
The Rebellion was made possible thanks to Spanish funds and arms, dating from arrangements made some years before the war broke out. None of the other belligerent powers admitted to assisting the rebels - and in most cases, they did not. In its aftermath, Britain - with the consent of many colonial leaders - ordered universal emancipation across the colonies, effective immediately, as a punitive measure designed to prevent would-be rebellions by wealthy slaveholders.
A/N: *Think the legislation that Lee passes in Guns of the South, only on an accelerated timetable.
** As in, if the Planters hadn't risen up, the colonial units who had to fight them off could have come to the aid of the Canadas. Funnily enough, while France benefited from the whole thing, they truly didn't support the Planters, seeing them as a bunch of utter lunatics who'd only mean trouble if they somehow succeeded.
Any chance that we see some Prussian troops getting transported over to the New World during the rebellion or no?
There were probably some token compensation for the wealthy planeters for the emancipation of the slaves. Simply because they didn't want to risk creating to many embittered feelings amongst them to prevent futility rebellions.
President Jay Gatsby who was known for his parties before elections along with his links to bootlegging. Not much is known about Gatsby early life. During his first years in office he famously ended the ban on alcohol. He also was a driving force behind the USA joining the League of Nations.
President Atticus Finch who first came into too the public eye after defending a black man charge with rape which he proved he was innocent. He would work his way up through the political ranks first senator then governor then president. He was known for his woman’s and civil rights works and intervention in Germany.
mspence
Banned
President Douglas Dillman, the first African American President of the United States (1974-1981). Dillman was President Pro Tempore of the Senate when Richard Nixon was impeached and convicted by the Senate during the Watergate Crisis. With no Vice President, and House Speaker Carl Albert unwilling to take the job, it fell to Dillman to try and bring the country back together. By most accounts he largely succeeded, and was elected in his own right in 1976, although his reputation was tarnished when he came to be seen as indecisive on South Africa, particularly the conflict in Angola, in which the CIA and American military advisors and mercenaries were heavily involved.
Land of Confusion:
Genesis
As the world burned in the inferno of nuclear fire one city survived the coming hardships, Vegas. With the missiles that targeted the city malfunctioning and flying off course, missing their intended target. Only for the City of Vice to fall into chaos in the days that followed as swarms of its former visitors and locals alike began tearing each other apart over the tiniest scrap of food.
Soon a new order arose in the city, the order of Mob families. Uniting under a common banner with the aid of the industrialist Hughie Bartok they drove the cities excess population out into the desert to die and carved out the remnants of the city between them. Since then the city of Vega has endured growing into a valued trade hub with traders still coming far and wide to gamble at the casino's, drink at the bars and screw at the bordello's. With most towns in the region paying fealty to the great families less they get cut off from the precious waters of Hoover Dam. Much the same with various businesses having to pay the family's a cut of the action.
And yet all of this success has been built on the backs of Peons. Grunt laborers, little better than actual slaves, descended from the original survivots of those who driven out of Vega in the first place. Only to be lured back by its shinny lights and promises of food, clean water and shelter. Now breaking their backs in sweet shops, construction sites and sharecropping farms in the hope of one day paying off their contracts and working their way up to the middle class.
Hughie Bartok famed Old World inventor and entrepreneur, somehow he's managed to stay alive to present. Ruling over all of Vega for the past hundred and fifty years as Director of the Executive Council with the Great Families. Having successfully managed to not only rebuild Vega after the devastation of the nuclear winter but also advance it to the point to where it's slightly more advanced than what the Old World was before the bombs dropped. Yet one wonders just how much longer can he and his security bots hold their grip over Vega, as word spreads of an army of mutants and giants from displaced tribals who have found themselves in the region.
Genesis
As the world burned in the inferno of nuclear fire one city survived the coming hardships, Vegas. With the missiles that targeted the city malfunctioning and flying off course, missing their intended target. Only for the City of Vice to fall into chaos in the days that followed as swarms of its former visitors and locals alike began tearing each other apart over the tiniest scrap of food.
Soon a new order arose in the city, the order of Mob families. Uniting under a common banner with the aid of the industrialist Hughie Bartok they drove the cities excess population out into the desert to die and carved out the remnants of the city between them. Since then the city of Vega has endured growing into a valued trade hub with traders still coming far and wide to gamble at the casino's, drink at the bars and screw at the bordello's. With most towns in the region paying fealty to the great families less they get cut off from the precious waters of Hoover Dam. Much the same with various businesses having to pay the family's a cut of the action.
And yet all of this success has been built on the backs of Peons. Grunt laborers, little better than actual slaves, descended from the original survivots of those who driven out of Vega in the first place. Only to be lured back by its shinny lights and promises of food, clean water and shelter. Now breaking their backs in sweet shops, construction sites and sharecropping farms in the hope of one day paying off their contracts and working their way up to the middle class.
Hughie Bartok famed Old World inventor and entrepreneur, somehow he's managed to stay alive to present. Ruling over all of Vega for the past hundred and fifty years as Director of the Executive Council with the Great Families. Having successfully managed to not only rebuild Vega after the devastation of the nuclear winter but also advance it to the point to where it's slightly more advanced than what the Old World was before the bombs dropped. Yet one wonders just how much longer can he and his security bots hold their grip over Vega, as word spreads of an army of mutants and giants from displaced tribals who have found themselves in the region.
I guess you can say Vegas have some old world blues...I will see myself out.Land of Confusion:
Genesis
As the world burned in the inferno of nuclear fire one city survived the coming hardships, Vegas. With the missiles that targeted the city malfunctioning and flying off course, missing their intended target. Only for the City of Vice to fall into chaos in the days that followed as swarms of its former visitors and locals alike began tearing each other apart over the tiniest scrap of food.
Soon a new order arose in the city, the order of Mob families. Uniting under a common banner with the aid of the industrialist Hughie Bartok they drove the cities excess population out into the desert to die and carved out the remnants of the city between them. Since then the city of Vega has endured growing into a valued trade hub with traders still coming far and wide to gamble at the casino's, drink at the bars and screw at the bordello's. With most towns in the region paying fealty to the great families less they get cut off from the precious waters of Hoover Dam. Much the same with various businesses having to pay the family's a cut of the action.
And yet all of this success has been built on the backs of Peons. Grunt laborers, little better than actual slaves, descended from the original survivots of those who driven out of Vega in the first place. Only to be lured back by its shinny lights and promises of food, clean water and shelter. Now breaking their backs in sweet shops, construction sites and sharecropping farms in the hope of one day paying off their contracts and working their way up to the middle class.
Hughie Bartok famed Old World inventor and entrepreneur, somehow he's managed to stay alive to present. Ruling over all of Vega for the past hundred and fifty years as Director of the Executive Council with the Great Families. Having successfully managed to not only rebuild Vega after the devastation of the nuclear winter but also advance it to the point to where it's slightly more advanced than what the Old World was before the bombs dropped. Yet one wonders just how much longer can he and his security bots hold their grip over Vega, as word spreads of an army of mutants and giants from displaced tribals who have found themselves in the region.