Philip the handsome and Joanna of Castile have a third son

So I know 5is might have been discussed before, but assuming either one of Philip and Joanna’s daughters either Mary or Catherine is born a boy, or Philip doesn’t die when he did otl and sir3s another son on Janna, what would become of this third son? Would they be destined for the church? Would they be given the Low Countries! Could they even be used as perhaps a marriage candidate for the hand of Mary the younger, should Mary become her fathers heir?
 
For a better explanation, let’s say Philip the handsome doesn’t die when he did otl, and thus this third son, is born in 1508, perhaps named Maximilian for Philips father or Philip after himself. Henry VIII perhaps during one of his ill fated campaigns dies in the 1520s, without a son and before divorcing Catherine. His daughter Mary is now queen. Would Catherine as Mary’s regent look for a Habsburg/ Spanish husband for her?
 
So we have,
Charles, Ferdinand & Maximilian as the sons of Joanna & Philipp.

Unless Philipp lives long enough to partition the realms it all goes to Charles. Henry VIII is dead and Catherine is regent. They'll likely try to arrange a marriage for Ferdinand & Mary and we may see a repeat of Philip II and Mary's contract that their heir will inherit the low countries to help sweeten the pot. The 1st Congress of Vienna hasn't happened yet so should it happen, it'll be Maximilian the younger & Anna of Bohemia instead.

It's assumed Philipp will be emperor but should he die before Maximilian I, it's Charles that'll be the Habsburg candidate. Ferdinand would probably have been recognised as the heir to the Netherlands and would've been moved to Ghent earlier (hopefully) and Charles might've been moved to Spain.

Or even better! Maximilian the younger is sent to Austria early too. And so when Maximilian I starts campaigning for an heir to him he chooses between Ferdinand or Maximilian the younger. This way we avoid the problem of the Spanish Emperor.
 
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So we have,
Charles, Ferdinand & Maximilian as the sons of Joanna & Philipp.

Unless Philipp lives long enough to partition the realms it all goes to Charles. Henry VIII is dead and Catherine is regent. They'll likely try to arrange a marriage for Ferdinand & Mary and we may see a repeat of Philip II and Mary's contract that their heir will inherit the low countries to help sweeten the pot. The 1st Congress of Vienna hasn't happened yet so should it happen, it'll be Maximilian the younger & Anna of Bohemia instead.

It's assumed Philipp will be emperor but should he die before Maximilian I, it's Charles that'll be the Habsburg candidate. Ferdinand would probably have been recognised as the heir to the Netherlands and would've been moved to Ghent earlier (hopefully) and Charles might've been moved to Spain.

Or even better! Maximilian the younger is sent to Austria early too. And so when Maximilian I starts campaigning for an heir to him he chooses between Ferdinand or Maximilian the younger. This way we avoid the problem of the Spanish Emperor.
Interesting, and if Philip lives long enough to succeed his father and then discuss partitioning his realms, would he arrange for Charles to get Spain and her empire, Ferdinand the Holy Roman Empire and Bohemia and Hungary, and Maximilian the Low Countries, which I then assume means Maximilian would be offered to Mary?
 
Interesting, and if Philip lives long enough to succeed his father and then discuss partitioning his realms, would he arrange for Charles to get Spain and her empire, Ferdinand the Holy Roman Empire and Bohemia and Hungary, and Maximilian the Low Countries, which I then assume means Maximilian would be offered to Mary?

Changed things so it's
Charles - Spain, weds Isabella of Portugal earlier
Ferdinand - Low countries, weds Mary Tudor
Maximilian - Austria, weds Anna of Bohemia

If Philipp lives long enough to be emperor and want to partition the realms it'd likely be the above. The best candidate for Emperor I think is Maximilian as this avoids any hint of being beholden to a foreign realm. But Ferdinand is also good.
Charles wouldn't have any realms in the Empire until at earliest 1535 assuming the same as OTL and with that there's the issue of the pope being surrounded so the pope will oppose his candidature. Also Philip will probably realise it's difficult to rule both so Charles likely won't be considered.
 
Changed things so it's
Charles - Spain, weds Isabella of Portugal earlier
Ferdinand - Low countries, weds Mary Tudor
Maximilian - Austria, weds Anna of Bohemia

If Philipp lives long enough to be emperor and want to partition the realms it'd likely be the above. The best candidate for Emperor I think is Maximilian as this avoids any hint of being beholden to a foreign realm. But Ferdinand is also good.
Charles wouldn't have any realms in the Empire until at earliest 1535 assuming the same as OTL and with that there's the issue of the pope being surrounded so the pope will oppose his candidature. Also Philip will probably realise it's difficult to rule both so Charles likely won't be considered.
Interesting, the age difference between Ferdinand and Mary wouldn’t be too big of an issue then, or the age gap between Maximilian and Anna?
 
Interesting, the age difference between Ferdinand and Mary wouldn’t be too big of an issue then, or the age gap between Maximilian and Anna?

If Maximilian the younger was born in 1508 then that's be a 5 year difference with Anna. Earliest to consumate will when he's 15 and she's 20 (weird for us now but probably not for them in that time). Not bad

For Ferdinand & Mary, there's a 15 year difference. At a certain point Charles V was engaged to Mary and he waited so that age difference between Mary & Ferdinand probably isn't a big deal. Now if something were to happen that they'd be worried Ferdinand might die. They might rush him to marry says Anne or Amalia of Cleves and then any sons from that wedding will take Ferdinand's place.
 
If Maximilian the younger was born in 1508 then that's be a 5 year difference with Anna. Earliest to consumate will when he's 15 and she's 20 (weird for us now but probably not for them in that time). Not bad

For Ferdinand & Mary, there's a 15 year difference. At a certain point Charles V was engaged to Mary and he waited so that age difference between Mary & Ferdinand probably isn't a big deal. Now if something were to happen that they'd be worried Ferdinand might die. They might rush him to marry says Anne or Amalia of Cleves and then any sons from that wedding will take Ferdinand's place.
Interesting. As regards your earlier point, wouldn’t Maximilian be beholden to a foreign realm anyway if he’s king of Bohemia and Hungary also? Or were you more meaning if he or Ferdinand were put forward as candidates for the imperial crown after their marriagesL
 
Interesting. As regards your earlier point, wouldn’t Maximilian be beholden to a foreign realm anyway if he’s king of Bohemia and Hungary also? Or were you more meaning if he or Ferdinand were put forward as candidates for the imperial crown after their marriagesL

There's precedent of an Emperor being effective while being king of Bohemia & Hungary. Bohemia is an uncircled part of the Empire. Also circa 1518/1519 there was no way of knowing the Bohemian Jagiellons would die out in the manner they did. I'd actually work well as the Emperor's wife is the sister to the King-Elector of Bohemia at least keeping that vote.

Now that I think about it Maximilian would be too young in 1519 if he were born in 1508 to be Emperor (I think by then they'd established no child emperor's) so the best candidate would be Ferdinand who would be 16 at the time.
 
There's precedent of an Emperor being effective while being king of Bohemia & Hungary. Bohemia is an uncircled part of the Empire. Also circa 1518/1519 there was no way of knowing the Bohemian Jagiellons would die out in the manner they did. I'd actually work well as the Emperor's wife is the sister to the King-Elector of Bohemia at least keeping that vote.

Now that I think about it Maximilian would be too young in 1519 if he were born in 1508 to be Emperor (I think by then they'd established no child emperor's) so the best candidate would be Ferdinand who would be 16 at the time.

Hmm this is very true, in that instance, wouldn't it perhaps be more convenient for Ferdinand to be married to Anna, to lock in the Bohemian vote?
 
Hmm this is very true, in that instance, wouldn't it perhaps be more convenient for Ferdinand to be married to Anna, to lock in the Bohemian vote?

That would work then Max the younger flips roles with Maximilian. Maximilian the younger marries Mary Tudor. The age difference isn't as wide also.
 
Philipp's son Max = Maximilian the younger

Ah, yes I get you, apologies.

So we've got Ferdinand married to Anna of Bohemia and Hungary, serving as his father's King of the Romans. Charles heir to the Spanish throne, and Maximilian the Younger as a candidate for Mary's hand and likely Lord of the Netherlands.
 
Maximilian the Younger can marry Mary Tudor after the death of Louis XII, as a second husband, this prevents the Brandon issue, the other woman who can marry Maximilian is Mary Tudor the younger, what needs to happen is for Henry VIII to have a son.
 
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Maximilian the Younger can marry Mary Tudor after the death of Louis XII, as a second husband, this prevents the Brandon issue, the other woman who can marry Maximilian is Mary Tudor the younger, what needs to happen is for Henry VIII to have a son.
Mary Tudor didn’t marry louis xii her daunt did
 
Yes. Her aunt Mary Tudor. The post you're quoting distinguishes the two.
Indeed, though not sure why Mary Tudor the elder would marry Maximilian. She’s twelve years older than him, and likely already snapped up by Brandon by the time Maximilian is out on the market
 
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