Philip II of Spain weds Maria Duchess of Viseu

So as I was glancing through Wikipedia, it seems at a certain point Charles V thought to wed Maria to Philip II before deciding to pursue Mary of England.

Assuming Philip marries Maria, how does this affect things? Who does Mary I wed? How will this affect Anglo-Spanish relations? What becomes of Elizabeth I? England and the English reformation?
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So as I was glancing through Wikipedia, it seems at a certain point Charles V thought to wed Maria to Philip II before deciding to pursue Mary of England.

Assuming Philip marries Maria, how does this affect things? Who does Mary I wed? How will this affect Anglo-Spanish relations? What becomes of Elizabeth I? England and the English reformation?
Calais?

AIUI, neither Felipe nor Maria showed much enthusiasm for the match. Which was why it was dropped. Then again, when you're the richest single woman in Europe and your uncle with the oversized chin suggests you marry your nephew/cousin, who's heir to the most kingdoms in Europe, I'd imagine you'd be like "bitch please"
 
AIUI, neither Felipe nor Maria showed much enthusiasm for the match. Which was why it was dropped. Then again, when you're the richest single woman in Europe and your uncle with the oversized chin suggests you marry your nephew/cousin, who's heir to the most kingdoms in Europe, I'd imagine you'd be like "bitch please"

Could Charles force the issue though, wouldn't her dowry go a long way towards helping with Spanish debts at the time? Philip had been single for a good 9 years before getting married again to Mary. The succession was secure with Don Carlos and Ferdinand (& Maximilian + Maria) had sons to spare by 1553 but what if Charles or Philip wanted to be extra sure, especially when doubts on Maximilian's Catholicism started to arise.
 
I'm tired of Charles kicking Portugal around. Can't Joao III tell Charles to fuck off and quit taking his relatives into death marriages and bleeding them dry?
 
I'm tired of Charles kicking Portugal around. Can't Joao III tell Charles to fuck off and quit taking his relatives into death marriages and bleeding them dry?

I'm not saying Charles will bully Portugal into it, merely saying that he applies his diplomatic influence to encourage the marriage (granted both could mean the exact same thing). This would merely be a continuation of the intermarriage policies of the Iberian kingdoms that existed long before Charles (though the genetic legacy of this is not good). The prestige of having your daughter as Queen of Spain, possibly Holy roman empress is there as an incentive, at his point while Ferdinand I was King of Romans, but there was still a chance Philip could've succeeded Ferdinand. Also this could make Charles support Luis of Beja as a candidate for Mary I as his son isn't available if Mary reaches out for help/advice as she did in OTL, there's a good history of Anglo-Portuguese relations and he's catholic, though there is one other candidate in Ferdinand II son of Ferdinand I.
 
I'm tired of Charles kicking Portugal around. Can't Joao III tell Charles to fuck off and quit taking his relatives into death marriages and bleeding them dry?

It wasn't Karl so much as the Spanish court from what I've read. The doctors were little better than quacks, they bled for anything and everything (exorcism was more relied on than a sound medical diagnosis), and there was a king of Portugal who refused to send a daughter to Spain to marry around this time, since he basically said "what for? if the girl is well, they bleed her; if she is ill, they bleed her still" Could've been Joao III, but I'm not sure.

As to her money helping Spain's finances, remember, in the 1540s/1550s, Spain isn't in the dire straits financially it was two/three decades later. So, if she's still got her money then, IDK. A good way of securing that Karl might be more persistent in the match, have D. Carlos be born a girl, Maria Manuela dies in childbed, and suddenly the succession ain't looking so healthy. Hell, Karl might even decide that if that's the case, to marry Maria or Mary Tudor himself to shore up the succession.
 
The other reason was that there where conflict between HRE and France, what else is new :noexpression: and Henry wanted to ally with the german princes so Anne was the price of that alliance. Just drag it over a year and Anne can stay as wife (maybe duke of york babby) and Mary can have her Philip and BE HAPPY :happyblush
 
The reason Henry VIII didn't like Anne of Cleves had to do with his own embarrassment/feeling of humiliation at her not knowing who he was when he disguised himself to visit her. In the traditions of courtly love (which H8 followed with Katherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn), the Queen-to-be would have immediately known that the strange man talking English to her was the King and fallen madly in love and into his arms. Anne of Cleves was raised strictly at her mother's side in a court where, when the English Ambassadors asked to see Anne's and Amelia's faces (their headpieces impeded a clear look), the response was: "Would you see them naked?"

The cultural mismatch (she should have been sent an Englishwoman to help prepare her for the English court - it was thought 'loose' of women to sing or dance or play music in Cleves) that Cromwell should have seen coming when the above question was asked.
 
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