so what if Mary I's First phantom pregnancies wasn't a phantom pregnancy but real, and in 1555 she gave birth to a healthy baby boy named Philip, so what happens when Mary dies? (around the same time as OTL)
Wasn't her pregenancy actually a tumor of some kind and that was what killed her. So if it really is a child, then wouldn't she likely survive longer?
My teacher told me it was a massive stomach tumor, which basically caused me to squick and curl into the fetal position.Wasn't her pregenancy actually a tumor of some kind and that was what killed her. So if it really is a child, then wouldn't she likely survive longer?
I can't see Mary surviving until her son comes of age. She was always in rather frail health. I see problems with the regency. She would probably arrange for a Roman Catholic to head it, but I still see Protestant possibilities. And what happens with Elizabeth? Does she have a voice in the regency?
I have to imagine, if it were to come to having the possibility of a Protestant take the Spanish throne, the Spanish would find some way to remove him.
That would be amazing... i wanna see a TL about thisAn Anglo-Burgundian Union under a Protestant Habsburg...
Jesus Christ, is that a thing of beauty.
In my book, it's called heresy of the highest order!An Anglo-Burgundian Union under a Protestant Habsburg...
Jesus Christ, is that a thing of beauty.
I think a lot depends on the circumstances and what England does in the immediate aftermath, and how our descendant handles things...I think this does beg the question though, the Habsburgs are noted for two things, their belief in their positions as defenders of the Catholic Church, and their staunch family alliance over all else. So what happens if these things are forced into conflict, that is to say, would the Spanish/Austrian Habsburgs alienate a Protestant line or tone down their uber Catholicism rheotoric?
See I dunno if he would. I will agree he was an incredibly religious man, but I can't help returning to the thought that in the end that Habsburgs did what was best for the family are large, except for Charles II of Spain, but he was a genetic mutant freak so he doesn't count. Plus this is his son...In my book, it's called heresy of the highest order!
Awesome heresy of the highest order, of course, much like LTTW's French Revolutionary flag. But still...
I think a lot depends on the circumstances and what England does in the immediate aftermath, and how our descendant handles things...
One wonders- the Spanish Hapsburgs were fanatics, after all. I mean, someone like Phillip II is most likely to put religion in front of family... But I think individual personalities are important here- but we're dealing with a lot of theoretical people.
Isn't Madrid worth a mass?
Isn't Madrid worth a mass?
I have to agree. We are taling about the possibility of Philip of Spain to be a fanatic and act againts his son over religion-the fanaticism would be to refuse the frikkin´ Spanish Empire over religion.
He probably would be far more friendly to the Protestant cause -which is bad fo the long-term survival of the Inquisition, which by that time alreday was gaining far too much power over the crown. But friendly or not, he'd be a catholic -and right now a fair percentage of England are secret catholics, too; Henry VIII isnt' too far on the past.
But I don't know if he'd be able to keep Protestant England on the long term (what happened in the Netherlands). I could see a separation, Netherlands and England to the protestants (and a future british empire over both sinçdes of the channel is way awesome, though France may think otherwise...) and Ireland to remain Spanish.
But if that king wants to have any power, he is going to have to suppress the barons and petty kings and dominate the Anglo-Irish lords.Ireland that isn't supressed and dominated, and further is allowed to openly be Catholic, and eventually may be under and independent Habsburg King...
*drools*