Penecillin discovered in 1910

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Potentially a quite astounding impact beyond that attributable to Pennicillin it self. It will trigger a lot of microbial research and probably lead to the discovery of transferable inheritable traits much sooner than the 1940's discovery IOTL, and then we are seeing the beginning of the molecular biological age.
The thing is that what really precipitated the Watson & Crick's seminal DNA structure that also revealed its mechanism was partly technical with input from physics. So we'll see a lot of microbiological and biological chemistry progress initially without the knowledge that guided the progress IOTL. Having said this you'll see some of the key element (the genetic code) resolved with biochemical techniques and then the progress move again.
The first approved gene therapy medicine came in 2013, you may see this happening 20 years earlier.
 
Not necessarily, we don't know if the bacteria were gram-negative or gram-positive: Penicillin and other beta-lactam antibiotics are ineffective against gram-negative bacteria.
 
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Why not, just have Franz Ferdinand not get shot; the circumstances leading to Princip actually getting close enough to open fire was very improbable as it was.
Penecillin getting discovered in 1910 isn't going to prevent Franz Ferdinand from getting shot.
 
would have to agree, discovery in 1910, how long before available for use
even in a best case scenario at least 2 years until incidental (emergency) use.
unless someone important is cured, which draws a lot attention, i do not see much butterflies the first years

in otl it was discovered in '28, they started to use it in '42

however if you read the wiki on penicillin, you can see that the discovery might have been even earlier, 1897
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillin

what will happen is not only more research, a lot more use, as cure for everything, and penicillin immune bacteria will show up even sooner than otl
maybe even before newer antibiotics are discovered.
Casualty rates from the Spanish flu would drop drastically, since it was bacterial pneumonia, not the virus-based flu itself, that killed so many of the victims: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14458-bacteria-were-the-real-killers-in-1918-flu-pandemic/

am am very familiar with the figures of that for the netherlands, and what happened was that the indirect deaths were not even registered as deaths from the spanish flu, the dutch figures showed that for every influenza death there was also one death from derived causes (pneumonia etc). so i assume that this pattern took place elsewhere too
 
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would have to agree, discovery in 1910, how long before available for use
even in a best case scenario at least 2 years until incidental (emergency) use.
unless someone important is cured, which draws a lot attention, i do not see much butterflies the first years

in otl it was discovered in '28, they started to use it in '42

however if you read the wiki on penicillin, you can see that the discovery might have been even earlier, 1897
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillin

what will happen is not only more research, a lot more use, as cure for everything, and penicillin immune bacteria will show up even sooner than otl
maybe even before newer antibiotics are discovered.
Depends on how its used, it could eradicate syphilis. The discovery in 1928 was ignored for years until the late 1930s.
 
i agree, but from the sheer moment of discovery until a useful medicine takes time. i think that 4 years simply isn't enough for that complete development path.

if you want it to influence WW1, go with discovery in 1897 by Ernest Duchesne or Vincenzo Tiberio in 1895, that should give enough time.
 

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i agree, but from the sheer moment of discovery until a useful medicine takes time. i think that 4 years simply isn't enough for that complete development path.

if you want it to influence WW1, go with discovery in 1897 by Ernest Duchesne or Vincenzo Tiberio in 1895, that should give enough time.
Alright, let's assume the 1897 work is followed up on, so mass production starts in 1910.
 
this would set loose a whole swarm of mothra sized butterflies.

yes enough to prevent/delay the war, since the assassination was rather chaotic already. it will hugely increase the survival rate of soldiers during wars, which will have consequences too.
it will increase the survival rate of colonists in tropical countries

it might just be early enough to influence alfred nobel, he might just add a nobel prize for biology.
 
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