Thomas1195
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They must choose between UK and Russiathere would be an alliance of all the Continental European powers against the UK in 1914.
They must choose between UK and Russiathere would be an alliance of all the Continental European powers against the UK in 1914.
They will choose the UK.They must choose between UK and Russia
Whilst reading this again it struck me that unless some of the growth was from migration all the extra people in 1914 are going to be aged between 0 and 13. The British Isles of 1914 ITTL will be a huge maternity hospital cum primary school.Almost certainly the army would be smaller proportionately and the navy larger. This Britain will be more vulnerable to threats to its trade and will spend appropriately, while I can't see why Britain would want an army that was so large unless her continental enemies had large armies and Britain had allies who they felt the need to reinforce. However, 1914 would only be 13 years after whatever PoD, so the actual population would be more like 58 million if we went with a flat 2.65%/year growth rate. Probably not enough to significantly change the strategic calculus of the continental powers (though they would be starting to become aware of the problem of British population growth).
fasquardon
You could try having an earlier Industrial Revolution with Britain and then continuously keep on flooding Britain with immigrants. Indeed, an extra couple of centuries of being an industrial nation might result in Britain having such a massive population; heck, even in our TL, there has been a projection which shows that Britain's population could eventually reach 132 million people! :What events (clearly some will require a pre 1900 post) would need to happen for the UK to end up with a population of 300 million by 1980?
You can include the land mass of Ireland to make it so.
It must be from natural increase, ie no immigration from outside the UK
Would the land area of the British Isles support this?
Regards filers.
If RN still has a conversion from coal to oil before ww1 to increase speed, Britain must secure its oil supply. Synthetic oil would be developed, but this would be insufficient. Not to mention oil for other industriesa navy of circa 400 submarines, 350 capital ships of all types (dreadnoughts, pre-dreadnoughts and battle cruisers), 600 cruisers of all types and 1,500 surface torpedo craft (1,000 destroyers and 500 torpedo boats) in peacetime.
Then Britain would have a much smaller economy than your estimation.Whilst reading this again it struck me that unless some of the growth was from migration all the extra people in 1914 are going to be aged between 0 and 13. The British Isles of 1914 ITTL will be a huge maternity hospital cum primary school.
@fasquardon who I was quoting said the UK's population would have a population of 58 million (instead of 45 million) in 1914 had the population grown at 2.65% since the OP's POD which was 1900.Then Britain would have a much smaller economy than your estimation.
The conversion from oil was incomplete in 1914. The first oil powered battleships (the Queen Elizabeth class) were still fitting out, about half the destroyers (the F class onwards) used oil fuel and IIRC all the cruisers before the Town class and A class scout cruisers used coal.If RN still has a conversion from coal to oil before ww1 to increase speed, Britain must secure its oil supply. Synthetic oil would be developed, but this would be insufficient. Not to mention oil for other industries.
Or just have the Thirteen Colonies stay with the UK. The center of power may eventually move to the Americas, but the population could then exceed even 400,000,000.The only way to make this remotely possible would be to make Canada a direct part of the United Kingdom in the early 19th century, make Canada somewhat larger at the expense of the United States, and expand Canada's population via aggressive encouragement of immigration from both Europe and India. ASB.
Or just have the Thirteen Colonies stay with the UK. The center of power may eventually move to the Americas, but the population could then exceed even 400,000,000.
Both would require a pre-1900 PoD.
Whilst reading this again it struck me that unless some of the growth was from migration all the extra people in 1914 are going to be aged between 0 and 13. The British Isles of 1914 ITTL will be a huge maternity hospital cum primary school.