PC: Twin-Sabre heavy fighter / FB?

soundnfury

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Did any British aircraft manufacturers have any projects for heavy fighters or fighter-bombers using twin Napier Sabres?
If not, are there any plausible ways such a project could come about? Assume that Napiers' production and quality control problems are fixed sooner than OTL.
 
De Haviland seem to be proposing 'Super Mosquito', able to carry 8000 lb bomb load at 430 mph (link). Basically a bomber, not fighter-bomber, let alone fighter.
 
Hawker's P.1005 bomber was to have been powered by two Sabres, with a six cannon version fighter proposal. Bit big for a fighter though.
 

soundnfury

Banned
Hawker's P.1005 bomber was to have been powered by two Sabres, with a six cannon version fighter proposal. Bit big for a fighter though.
Intriguing. I found some drawings for it:
Hawker_high_speed_bomber.jpg

This just might turn up in my TL... even the dates work out :)
 
The Hawker P.1005 was designed before Sir Sydney Camm received notification from the wind tunnel boffins that their data was faulty, and before the Typhoon/Tornado designs had been revised with the amended Tempest wing. The bomber design had a thickness/chord ratio of around 18%, more akin to the Beaufighter than the Mosquito, and speed estimates, as with the Beau, would have proved a disappointment.

Indeed, Bristol built the Centaurus-powered Buckingham/Buckmaster/Brigand which suffered by comparison to the Mossie. The Brigand replaced the Hornet, not because it was superior, but because the Hornets were used up.
 
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No, the Brigands were used alongside the Hornets in Malaya, but were withdrawn due to several in flight break ups. The props also had a nasty habit of shedding blades. The Hornets lasted until '55 before being scrapped.
 
The Hawker P.1005 was designed before Sir Sydney Camm received notification from the wind tunnel boffins that their data was faulty, and before the Typhoon/Tornado designs had been revised with the amended Tempest wing. The bomber design had a thickness/chord ratio of around 18%, more akin to the Beaufighter than the Mosquito, and speed estimates, as with the Beau, would have proved a disappointment.

How did they find their data was faulty, did they have a suspicion something was wrong and checked again or was it pure luck?
 
How did they find their data was faulty, did they have a suspicion something was wrong and checked again or was it pure luck?

I don't have any relevant information, but I suspect it was pure luck that they investigated why their data was faulty. I just know Camm's reaction, and the HS Hawk was tested in 19 different wind tunnels.
 
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