PC: Stuartist Restoration in 1744

Okay so say George II dies in 1743 and his very Hanoverian son takes the reign. After months of his German rule and indecision within Parliament as he supports the Opposition Whigs and the majority is the Whigs causes dissent among the British people. Then on January 20th due to more preparation the French are able to launch their invasion with Bonnie Charles and Maurice de Saxe at their head. At this time the British fleet wasn't near the invasion site and was unaware of the incoming attack, so so think the French would be alble to surprise the abritish and launch this invasion. Then Thanks to Frederick's misrule, French numbers/army superiority and Tory support the Stuartist are restored.

Is that plausible? Will the Staurts be able to rule as religious tolerant a or is conversion necessary?
 

B-29_Bomber

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The British People aren't going for anything remotely Catholic and adding the French into it just makes it worse.


Nope not gonna happen.
 
Once again people underestimate the attraction of the Jacobite movement and of the House of Stuart. A Stuart restoration at this point is absolutely possible, provided the proper scenario can be set up. To begin with the early Hannovarians (George II and George II) were never popular and neither were their puppet masters, the Whigs. Most books I've read, some of which are entirely opposed to the Jacobites, agree that if there had been a full scale uprising in England the Hanovarian-Whig alliance would be very hard-pressed to defeat it.

The problem was the Tories and Jacobites refused to rise without a French army to act as a nucleus for their revolt. If the French landed regular troops then chances are very high that the Jacobite Peers would rise their tenants and, as promised so many times before, march on London. Whether or not the Franco-Jacobite force could defeat the British army is the real question.

From what I remember in 1744/1745 there was only 10,000 active troops in Britain, but 7,000 were deployed to defend London and South East England. Now going by the lowest estimate of French troops, they would be landing around 6,000 men, close to the number of British troops in southern England. Not sure how many Jacobite forces would be risen in support, but lets say it equals the number of French troops, so that's 12,000 or so Franco-Jacobites vs 7,000 regular troops. Of course in the even of an invasion Parliament would call up the militias, which would greatly augment the number of British troops, at least on paper.

Of course, the French are led by the brilliant Maurice de Saxe, arguably one of the greatest living generals of the time. Leadership might be enough of an edge to give the Franco-Jacobites their needed victory. Assuming they crush the army in a decisive battle and the road to London is open, the situation becomes a siege of the capital, which would be very much difficult unless they get traitors to let them in the city and secure key sites, like the Tower of London. Even if London turns into a siege without traitors within the city, chances are Londoners are going to be in a panic and the economy is going to be in a free fall. There's a chance that this could cause a Parliamentary coup that brings the Tories to power, who offer to make peace and restore James III as King.

Just remember that most of the English population was apathetic to who sat on the throne and probably wouldn't care as long as their lives aren't directly affected, the Glorious revolution and the 1715 rising basically proved that. The entire thing was basically a fight among the aristocracy and merchants, not the common population.
 
Welcome. I've always been fascinated by the Jacobite movement and will definitely encourage anyone who's thinking about a Stuart Restoration TL.

Likewise!

Completely agree with your point regarding that most of the English population was apathetic to who sat on the throne and probably wouldn't care as long as their lives aren't directly affected. I think it was precisely this reason that the large amounts of English support which PBC was relying on never materialized.

I do doubt however that the French could build up a force large enough, including the ships to escort it across the Channel without the British noticing and reacting accordingly. IOTL of course, this proposed invasion fleet was battered by storms though if these storms hadn't have happened, I wonder if the Brits would have had enough ships in the Channel fleet to intercept the French - a large chunk of the RN was on blockade duty in the Eastern Atlantic and Med IIRC.

The bulk of the British army was in Flanders at this time, though I'm amazed at how fast the bulk of the infantry was brought back to England after Prestonpans (21st Sept) - by the 29th Nov, Cumberland was in Lichfield, only 24 miles from Derby, with the Govt army camped between Lichfield and Coleshill, near Coventry. Some battalions were also sent to the East coast (Newcastle and Hull) to join Wade's force. I wonder how fast they could have been brought back had the French attempted an invasion...
 
We know exactly how popular Jacobitism was in 1744 because there was an uprising the next year. It was popular in Scotland but barely at all in England. Here, it would be even more unpopular due to the contamination of being seen as a French plot. In addition, Frederick Louis was highly popular. While he spoke with a German accent, he was an Anglophile who played cricket and sponsored English arts.
 
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