PC: Franco-Spanish Communist Union

Isaac Beach

Banned
Now, let's say that France suffers a crushing defeat against the Germans in WWI enough to destabilize the government and give traction to communist revolutionaries. I know it's always a question of 'how' they lose, so in this case let's say that the US stays neutral due to better diplomacy on the part of Berlin. The war drags on to late 1919, say, with France suing for peace and losing Briey and the surrounding area as well as paying massive war indemnities. The unpopularity of this loss causes a communist revolution, which eventually succeeds in establishing a communist government in Paris in... phwoar, 1922?
The reason Germany and Britain do not intervene here is largely due to the former putting out revolts and consolidating their rule in the east after an exhaustive war and the latter struggling against it's own internal troubles -though Britain won't see nearly as much trouble as France due to not actually losing any territory in the war-. Though perhaps reactionary fascism gets a political boost. In any event, they're not important here.

In part because of the German U-boat campaign strangling coal shipments and plunging the Spanish economy into recession compounded with preexisting factors Spain destabilises and tumults into civil war in the mid-1920s, egged on by French actors. They to establish a communist government just shy of 1930.

Now, my question is, is there any chance of a union between Spain and France presuming international communism is popular in both? The extent of which can vary from a monetary union, something as simple -and dull- as a defence pact, to outright political union. Feel free to pick holes in my scenario, but I'd like the question in particular answered if that's alright.
 
A communist France post-WW1? I guess it's a change from the usual: "Croix de Feu takes over".
I'm not sure good ol' froggies would unite with siesta aficionados, but damn it would be interesting to see. Maybe a close alliance between the two.

As for how France lost, I think it is unlikely as Germany kept shooting US boats who dared tried to travel to Europe.
How does Germany and the US have a better relationship to keep the US neutral? What's the event that changed everything?

(NB: When I read the title, I thought it was about a communist Latin-American union. :biggrin:)
 

Isaac Beach

Banned
A communist France post-WW1? I guess it's a change from the usual: "Croix de Feu takes over".
I'm not sure good ol' froggies would unite with siesta aficionados, but damn it would be interesting to see. Maybe a close alliance between the two.

As for how France lost, I think it is unlikely as Germany kept shooting US boats who dared tried to travel to Europe.
How does Germany and the US have a better relationship to keep the US neutral? What's the event that changed everything?

(NB: When I read the title, I thought it was about a communist Latin-American union. :biggrin:)

Thanks; it's mostly for a map. Tryna' keep things interesting. Fascist France is all well and good but I've done that twice now.

If I knew the event specifically then I'd not need to ask the lovely post-1900 board as to the details of such a union in the first place. :p I'm no history major, but if you want me to take a stab at it; Bernstorff does a bit better than OTL and manages to secure a corridor along the 50th parallel for shipping going to Cornwall free of U-boats, thus ensuring as few American ships as possible get bombed. (An idea I may have stolen from Xhavnak's timeline :coldsweat:)

Ah, that's a fair point. I think I'll change the title then. Thanks.
 
What about Italy in all this. With a Communist France on the border Italian Communists and Syndicalists are likely to be very energised and supported. I can see Italy going Red, or at least the northern parts. Would they also be included into this union?
 

Isaac Beach

Banned
What about Italy in all this. With a Communist France on the border Italian Communists and Syndicalists are likely to be very energised and supported. I can see Italy going Red, or at least the northern parts. Would they also be included into this union?

From a map perspective, possibly. it is for all intents and purposes a commie wank. I just want to maintain some plausibility.
 
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