PC: Anne of Brittany, Princess of the Asturias, Duchesse d'Orléans

This is an idea I had bouncing around in my head earlier. There was at one point a marriage proposed between Juan, Prince of the Asturias (son of the Catholic monarchs) and Anne, Duchess of Brittany. Obviously said proposal went nowhere, but it makes for interesting what-ifs in alt-history. (I can't seem to find out why the marriage failed - I assume it had something to do with the Treaty of Sénlis).

Now here's my rough outline. Anne gets married to Juan of Aragon in December 1490 (her OTL date of marriage to Maximilian I, HRE). Obviously the Castilians would have the same problems as the Austrians in keeping the French out, but Fernando II was also pretty good at dealing with the French, so I figure he might insist on her being in Spain already when her dad dies or something like that.

The marriage of course gets consummated, the French proclaim little Isabeau de Bretagne duchess over Anne, but Isabeau dies as OTL. Charles VIII's marriage to Margarethe of Austria goes through because the replacement candidate (Anne or Isabeau) is no longer available.

Skip forward to 1497, Anne's had more-or-less her OTL luck with pregnancies, Juan's dead, she's a childless widow. The Catholic monarchs send her home to Brittany to marry. When she gets home, she hears that Charles VIII is dead and Louis, duc d'Orléans is now king. He, of course can get rid of his barren first wife, Jeanne, and marry again. His eye falls on the widowed duchess of Brittany, the annulment of Louis' marriage comes through, and he marries Anne in the hopes of getting a male heir.

Is this plausible? I know there is quite a bit of butterfly-herding/genocide going on, but I figure that Anne had a dismal obstetric record OTL, so here, with a tubercular husband it's not likely to be much better. Charles and Margarethe's marriage could produce children, but let's assume that while it does, they're either the wrong sex or shortlived if male.
 
I don't get the point. The people marry different people, but it all ends the same. Have Margarethe and Charles have a son and the Orleans/Brittany union and suddenly you have a strong rival/cadet branch in France. Have Anne and Juan have a child and suddenly Spain has many French lands.
 
Anne of Brittany (b.1477: d.1512) m. Juan, Prince of Asturias (b.1478: d.1497) (a), Louis, Duke of Orleans (b.1462: d.1515) (a)

1a) Isabella of Spain (b.1496: d.1499)

2a) Stillborn Son (c.1497)

3a) Anna of Spain (b.1498: d.1501)

4b) Marie d'Orleans (b.1500: d.1503)

5b) Miscarriage (c.1501)

6b) Stillborn Son (c.1502)

7b) Marguerite d'Orleans (b.1504: d.1535) m. Francis, Count d'Angouleme (b.1494: d.1547) (a)

1a) Louise d'Angouleme (b.1522)

2a) Francis, Count d'Angouleme (b.1525)

3a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1527)

4a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1530)

5a) Charlotte d'Angouleme (b.1533)

6a) Charles d'Angouleme (b.1535: d.1535)

7a) Louis d'Angouleme (b.1535: d.1535)​

8b) Miscarriage (c.1505)

9b) Miscarriage (c.1507)

10b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1508)

11b) Louis, Duke of Orleans and Brittany (b.1510: d.1569) m. Isabella of Navarre (b.1512: d.1553) (a), Eleanor of Austria (b.1534: d.1594) (a)

1a) Anne d'Orleans (b.1529: d.1533)

2a) Isabelle d'Orleans (b.1533)

3a) Joan d'Orleans (b.1535)

4a) Miscarriage (c.1537)

5a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1538)

6a) Marie d'Orleans (b.1540)

7a) Marguerite d'Orleans (b.1543: d.1544)

8a) Catherine d'Orleans (b.1547: d.1549)

9b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1555)

10b) Francis, Duke of Orleans, Duke of Brittany (b.1558)

11b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1561)

12b) Elisabeth d'Orleans (b.1564)

13b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1566)

14b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1567)​

12b) Miscarriage (c.1511)
Margaret of Austria (b.1480: d.1530) m. Charles VIII of France (b.1470: d.1498) (a)

1a) Louis XII of France (b.1497: d.1527) m. Mary Tudor (b.1496: d.1530) (a)

1a) Marguerite of France (b.1514: d.1519)

2a) Elisabeth of France (b.1516)

3a) Francis, Dauphin of France (b.1519)

4a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1521)

5a) Louis, Duke of Anjou (b.1524)

6a) Henri, Duke of Berry (b.1528: d.1539)​

2a) Francis, Duke of Anjou (b.1498: d.1500)​
 
Anne of Brittany (b.1477: d.1512) m. Juan, Prince of Asturias (b.1478: d.1497) (a), Louis, Duke of Orleans (b.1462: d.1515) (a)

1a) Isabella of Spain (b.1496: d.1499)

2a) Stillborn Son (c.1497)

3a) Anna of Spain (b.1498: d.1501)

4b) Marie d'Orleans (b.1500: d.1503)

5b) Miscarriage (c.1501)

6b) Stillborn Son (c.1502)

7b) Marguerite d'Orleans (b.1504: d.1535) m. Francis, Count d'Angouleme (b.1494: d.1547) (a)

1a) Louise d'Angouleme (b.1522)

2a) Francis, Count d'Angouleme (b.1525)

3a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1527)

4a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1530)

5a) Charlotte d'Angouleme (b.1533)

6a) Charles d'Angouleme (b.1535: d.1535)

7a) Louis d'Angouleme (b.1535: d.1535)​
8b) Miscarriage (c.1505)

9b) Miscarriage (c.1507)

10b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1508)

11b) Louis, Duke of Orleans and Brittany (b.1510: d.1569) m. Isabella of Navarre (b.1512: d.1553) (a), Eleanor of Austria (b.1534: d.1594) (a)

1a) Anne d'Orleans (b.1529: d.1533)

2a) Isabelle d'Orleans (b.1533)

3a) Joan d'Orleans (b.1535)

4a) Miscarriage (c.1537)

5a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1538)

6a) Marie d'Orleans (b.1540)

7a) Marguerite d'Orleans (b.1543: d.1544)

8a) Catherine d'Orleans (b.1547: d.1549)

9b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1555)

10b) Francis, Duke of Orleans, Duke of Brittany (b.1558)

11b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1561)

12b) Elisabeth d'Orleans (b.1564)

13b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1566)

14b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1567)​
12b) Miscarriage (c.1511)​
Margaret of Austria (b.1480: d.1530) m. Charles VIII of France (b.1470: d.1498) (a)

1a) Louis XII of France (b.1497: d.1527) m. Mary Tudor (b.1496: d.1530) (a)

1a) Marguerite of France (b.1514: d.1519)

2a) Elisabeth of France (b.1516)

3a) Francis, Dauphin of France (b.1519)

4a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1521)

5a) Louis, Duke of Anjou (b.1524)

6a) Henri, Duke of Berry (b.1528: d.1539)​
2a) Francis, Duke of Anjou (b.1498: d.1500)​

Considering all the motions that Louis XII went through to get Claude married to François d'Angoulême 'who is,least of all, French' OTL, and the French crown to ensure Brittany would be held in personal union with France (rather than it simply passing to a cadet branch of the Valois), wouldn't a match between TTL-Louis XII and Marguerite d'Orléans be more likely, and thus save her younger sister for Comtesse d'Angoulême, since Louise de Savoie is still going to be scheming for her son as OTL.
 
Considering all the motions that Louis XII went through to get Claude married to François d'Angoulême 'who is,least of all, French' OTL, and the French crown to ensure Brittany would be held in personal union with France (rather than it simply passing to a cadet branch of the Valois), wouldn't a match between TTL-Louis XII and Marguerite d'Orléans be more likely, and thus save her younger sister for Comtesse d'Angoulême, since Louise de Savoie is still going to be scheming for her son as OTL.

There's be an attempt, but the French King probably won't want to marry a domestic candidate. Much better to marry the daughter of a fellow King.
 
There's be an attempt, but the French King probably won't want to marry a domestic candidate. Much better to marry the daughter of a fellow King.

Fair enough. I suppose only if Marguerite had no brother or they all died in infancy/birth as OTL, then she'd make for a decent bride... I mean, better François d'Angoulême who's a young pompous ass ruled by his mother and his sister, and French, than a foreign national - like say, Henry VIII/Arthur I?
 
My two cents:

When her mother died in 1486, everyone sort of knew that François II would be looking for a new bride, what with only girls to inherit (I can't recall if they could or not). Yet, there's a two year gap between François II's death in September 1488 and Anne's marriage to Maximilian in December 1490, that the French seemed to be in a sort of limbo, since while there was a sort of division in Brittany between the pro-French and pro-independist factions, it was only the marriage to Maximilian that was the tipping point since it was in violation of the Treaty of Sablé.

If Castile-Aragon has Anne in their possession when François dies, then that means - at least in theory - that the French king either agreed to it, if it happened after Sablé was signed in '88 (in which case the French can't do anything about it) or it happened during the Mad War. However, AFAIK, age of majority for girls was 12/13, which Anne wouldn't be before 1490 (when she married Maximilian), so François would have to have a damn good reason as to why he allowed Anne (his theoretical heiress) out of the country before '88.
 
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