PC/AHC: Indendent Mayan state post 1700?

Is it possible, after the beginning of 1700, for there to be an Independent Mayan state existing in what is New Spain and Later Mexico?
 
No, the Spanish Conquest was as thorough in assimiliatin as possible. AFAIK, even the Itza in 1697 were very hybridized. Also, by then, the indigenous are too weak and Spain too strong for that too happen.
 
Yes, especially if *Mexico balkanizes. However, a Mayan state will need to overthrow the Spanish elite without the US or a European power interfering, and then survive without the skills of that elite.
 
Caste War of Yucatan is what you're looking for. In 1848 the Maya rebels came a hair away from taking the city of Merida, capital of the Yucatan and last stronghold of the Yucatan Republic. The rebellion which had started around the year before lasted into the 20th Century, with the Maya running a nation centered in Chan Santa Cruz that consisted of what is now the state of Quintana Roo, as well as other Maya rebel movements existing at the same time as the Cruzob.
 
No, the Spanish Conquest was as thorough in assimiliatin as possible. AFAIK, even the Itza in 1697 were very hybridized. Also, by then, the indigenous are too weak and Spain too strong for that too happen.

The Spanish conquest really didn't assimilate people that well. There's a reason why the vast majority of Mexico's population didn't speak Spanish in 1812.
 

Zek Sora

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Caste War of Yucatan is what you're looking for. In 1848 the Maya rebels came a hair away from taking the city of Merida, capital of the Yucatan and last stronghold of the Yucatan Republic. The rebellion which had started around the year before lasted into the 20th Century, with the Maya running a nation centered in Chan Santa Cruz that consisted of what is now the state of Quintana Roo, as well as other Maya rebel movements existing at the same time as the Cruzob.

IIRC, they also requested to join the US, but the Senate rejected the proposal.
 
Caste War of Yucatan is what you're looking for. In 1848 the Maya rebels came a hair away from taking the city of Merida, capital of the Yucatan and last stronghold of the Yucatan Republic. The rebellion which had started around the year before lasted into the 20th Century, with the Maya running a nation centered in Chan Santa Cruz that consisted of what is now the state of Quintana Roo, as well as other Maya rebel movements existing at the same time as the Cruzob.

Bingo. :)

Yeah, if that war had gone just a little differently, Yucatan would be theirs. IIRC, the reason Merida didn't fall is because the harvest (or was it planting?) season came just as they were about to begin their assault. The peasants went home to tend to their fields and the army evaporated before they could achieve total victory.

Suggested POD: the rebellion begins a few weeks before it did in our TL, Merida falls, and a swift Maya victory is secured.
 
IIRC, they also requested to join the US, but the Senate rejected the proposal.

The whites and mestizos who had proclaimed the Republic of Yucatan and were being massacred by the Maya, asked for US annexation in order to get rid of them. The USgovernment, having more than enough warring Indians, said no.
 
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