Erstwhile member James G has put up a scenario on alternative timelines proboards forum depicting a surprise NATO/Western Bloc invasion of Soviet Union in a Red Dawn-esque fashion. Any comments on whether or how it is possible?
Red Dawn was a ridiculous movie. The idea that Soviet troops could just start falling from the sky over Middle America with no warning whatsoever in our era of satellites and radar is an insult to the intelligence of those who watched it.Erstwhile member James G has put up a scenario on alternative timelines proboards forum depicting a surprise NATO/Western Bloc invasion of Soviet Union in a Red Dawn-esque fashion. Any comments on whether or how it is possible?
Been a while since I watched it (classic piece of 80s cheese) but the prologue I believe explains how they managed to do that (they based them in Mexico and Central America--which here are pro-Soviet because the US sucks in this movie plus Cuba). I guess the news was slow to reach our protagonists' school hence why it came as a shock to them.Red Dawn was a ridiculous movie. The idea that Soviet troops could just start falling from the sky over Middle America with no warning whatsoever in our era of satellites and radar is an insult to the intelligence of those who watched it.
Blue Dawn would be just as ridiculous.
If that happened in real life, we would fortify our border to a level that even Donald Trump (not dragging modern day politics into this, just making hyperbole) would find excessive. And we would certainly notice if mysterious planes began flying over it.Been a while since I watched it (classic piece of 80s cheese) but the prologue I believe explains how they managed to do that (they based them in Mexico and Central America--which here are pro-Soviet because the US sucks in this movie plus Cuba). I guess the news was slow to reach our protagonists' school hence why it came as a shock to them.
So presumably the USSR needs to do just as godawful as the US did. China goes capitalist earlier and is even more anti-Soviet. Korea and Germany are reunified under pro-western governments. The Warsaw Pact satellite states end up almost all pro-Western because the governments aren't suppressing dissent as much as they should. Finland joins NATO. So come the end of the 80s, US paratroopers land in some small town in Russia at the local Komsomol center and its up to our young communist partisans to save their town and nation from NATO.
I don't think this could work as anything but a Soviet propaganda film, much as Red Dawn is an anti-communist film (especially intended to comment on the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan). Not a realistic scenario by any means.
If that happened in real life, we would fortify our border to a level that even Donald Trump (not dragging modern day politics into this, just making hyperbole) would find excessive. And we would certainly notice if mysterious planes began flying over it.
I think that's getting too far into modern day politics.Mr Trump would presumably be very happy in this TL, as fortifications, not just on the border but all kinds of air defence posts etc., would be lucrative taxpayer sponsored business operations...
AgreedRed Dawn was a ridiculous movie. The idea that Soviet troops could just start falling from the sky over Middle America with no warning whatsoever in our era of satellites and radar is an insult to the intelligence of those who watched it.
Blue Dawn would be just as ridiculous.
That scene was several months into the story. Who's to say a base for MiGs, even a civilian airstrip in New Mexico, wasn't being used by that point?Agreed
Insult to intelligence of even a 10 yr old
" how come you got shot down if u were so good "
"Well i got 4 of them before i did "
Really? Which mig has the range to come close to Colorado from Nicaragua or even Mexico
Wish I could give it a negative 5 star rating
I'm anti liberal but I still hate that movie ...esp the mindless killing
Also, the idea that our entire nuclear delivery system could be crippled by a few cubans. We have submarines whose locations are top secret that make decapitation impossible.Agreed
Insult to intelligence of even a 10 yr old
" how come you got shot down if u were so good "
"Well i got 4 of them before i did "
Really? Which mig has the range to come close to Colorado from Nicaragua or even Mexico
Wish I could give it a negative 5 star rating
I'm anti liberal but I still hate that movie ...esp the mindless killing