Pax Ottomania - A TL

We all know that minarets are just giant phallic symbols. :D To show the dominance of the Ottomans!

I'm not amused by that... But If i Remember.. the Modern St Peters was not constructed yet(in fact in OTL was necesary the sell of 'Indulgences', something who bother certain Student of Theology...) and that remeber.. those will happen in ITTL? (with that crusader.. even if popistan surives.. will suffer a bankrupt and that is the cause for the Indulgences..)
 
I'm not amused by that... But If i Remember.. the Modern St Peters was not constructed yet(in fact in OTL was necesary the sell of 'Indulgences', something who bother certain Student of Theology...) and that remeber.. those will happen in ITTL? (with that crusader.. even if popistan surives.. will suffer a bankrupt and that is the cause for the Indulgences..)

Modern St. Peters was actually being constructed when the Ottomans took it. It was behind the old St. Peters.

It's a joke relax. I do think the Ottomans would want St. Peters for themselves.
 
BUMP IT

Even if i Hate the ultra pro-Chistrian-western bias for this Timeline(The Ottomans were so 'eastern' as The Byzantium and the Serb are for europe) is still was a good one(Even if the lack of knowledge some time in the Muslim Religious Historiography) is nice to enjoy it...

for that I bump this.
 

KCammy

Banned
Even if i Hate the ultra pro-Chistrian-western bias for this Timeline(The Ottomans were so 'eastern' as The Byzantium and the Serb are for europe) is still was a good one(Even if the lack of knowledge some time in the Muslim Religious Historiography) is nice to enjoy it...

for that I bump this.

Ultra-pro-Christian? I'm an atheist.... :D

Any chance we might get an update sometime in the near future on this?

Soon, maybe. I forgot all about it. :eek:
 

KCammy

Banned
Okay, it's been a while since I last gave a thought to this.

After reviewing it, I've decided to restart it, if there is support.

The reason being that, I think it is not very good. It gives little focus to the rest of the world, and in general, not very well thought out.

I've been on the board a while now, and I think I will be able to do much better now. What do we think?
 
Okay, it's been a while since I last gave a thought to this.

After reviewing it, I've decided to restart it, if there is support.

The reason being that, I think it is not very good. It gives little focus to the rest of the world, and in general, not very well thought out.

I've been on the board a while now, and I think I will be able to do much better now. What do we think?

I approve.
 
Sorry for being pedantic, but in this case, a completely new name that doesn't exist in reality, it's rather important to put the accent in Alejandroílla. With the accent, it's (to spell it in English, though one can't really convey the hard r, and the x sound of the j) ah-leh-hahn-dro-EE-yah, or, spoken fast, ah-leh-hahn-DRWEE-yah like in oeste, the word for west. With the accent, it's ah-leh-hahn-DROY-ah, which sounds sort of like a Spanish bastardization of an English bastardization of something in French.

At the 1500's the name Alexandro was pronounced as 'Aleshandro'.
 

KCammy

Banned
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Many would have laughed if someone had said that a lowly Anatolian Beylik would one day hold the City of the World's Desire. That the Byzantine Empire - long on of the world's most awe-inspiring and memorable nations, would cease to exist.

For centuries, Byzantium had prevailed, battered by enemies, tortured, relieved, and besieged. But it had yet to totally relent. The last bastion of the Roman Empire - or so it claimed - had gone through a steady decline following it's apex after the reign of Justinian. "Mare Nostrum" was a feint memory, a ghost.

After having it's North African territories stolen by the Moors, after the theme system failed it, after some of the worst religious strife it had seen in the East-West Schism, the Byzantine Empire faced it's final threat.

For years, the Sultanate of Seljuq, or the "Sultanate of Rum," had been in decline. It had been dealt some considerable blows by the Mongols, before being divided, and eventually pressed under the thumb of the Mameluks, if only for a short while. All the while, the first of these Emirates began splitting off, and did not take orders from the Mongols or the Mameluks, even if they did observe the supremacy of Konya. The Ottomans were among them.

During six years of civil war in the Byzantine Empire, the Serbians established themselves over large amounts of the vestigial "Roman Empire." This was not to last land, as the rising Ottoman Empire took advantage of the turmoil and crossed into Europe, vassalising the Serbians and solidifying their position as a powerful nation. The Byzantines, meanwhile struggled to get help from Western Europe, and the in end got it, but only after they had reunited with the Holy See in Rome, leaving many resentful of the Pope and the Catholic Church. However it was in vain.

On the Second of April, Fourteen Fifty Three, the Ottoman Empire laid siege to Constantinople, a shrunken city. It was in a sorry state. The population had long since imploded, leaving nothing but villagers and farmland.

The walls of the Constantinople were laid bare, the city reduced to a pitiful shadow of it's former self. The Byzantines were stripped of it's territory, after living out it's last years as a small, minor state.

After one thousand, nine hundred and sixty two years of existence, The Roman Empire was silent. And another empire lay in it's place.

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Everything thus far is OTL - Just a little taster of the style I'll be trying to use.

Do we like?

EDIT - And yeah, about the graphic... I was bored. :eek:

EDIT2 - Is this worth putting in a new thread?
 
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The italics are a little jarring somehow, otherwise looks fine to me.

Well, except for this:

"long the attention of the world's awe"

Awkward phrase is awkward.

Up to you on starting a new thread. I did for my timeline for the first revision, but the second edit I merely reposted the previous parts with edits in the same thread.
 
If you want to start a new thread go ahead, but let us know if you are going to do so.

Also can someone tell me why Kcammy is kicked?
 
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