Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck of the East : A story of World War 2 in Tibet

As I mentioned, his claim that pressure from Washington needed to be applied to Canberra to have Australia further participate in the war were unfounded. The American decision to limit Australian participation was based upon the idea that America did not agree with the ANZAC Pact and did not want to share any deliberations WRT a possible peace settlement with another power...
You read it wrong. I implied Washington’s pressure on Macarthur, not the other way around
 
I am more concerned that a sustained nuclear bombing campaign doesn't seem to be doing much to the Nazi's war effort.
 
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1944 : Germans dig into the Marne line

1944 : A 26 year old US navy pilot named George Lincoln Rockwell defects the USA and joins Axis forces in the Philippines. He founds the “Free American Corps” and fights alongside Japanese and Makapili forces. Macarthur calls him “A Nazi dumb son of a bitch traitor“

1944 : Al Capone dies in a prison riot. Anti German, Japanese, and Italian sentiment is at a high

1944 : Germany launches a successful counteroffensive in the Eastern front, push a few hundred miles away from the Riga

1944 : Allied forces captured Lyon

1944 : Soviets once again retake land lost near the Riga

1945 : Operation Bodenplatte is partially successfully, partially crippling some Allied air forces. However the Allies would soon recover

1945 : Battle of Ramree Island, Japanese units are eaten alive by crocodiles in the worst crocodile attack in history

1945 : Harrer is recalled back to Japan in February 1945 in preparation of an expected invasion of Japan. Harrer escapes the Philippines with remaining vessels of the IJN
With respect to the author doing research as part of this TL, Al Capone wasn't in prison in 1944. He was released in late 1939 and by 1944 he was significantly impaired by late stage syphilis.

At Alcatraz, Capone's decline became increasingly evident, as neurosyphilis progressively eroded his mental faculties; his formal diagnosis of syphilis of the brain was made in February 1938.[124] He spent the last year of his Alcatraz sentence in the hospital section, confused and disoriented.[125] Capone completed his term in Alcatraz on January 6, 1939, and was transferred to the Federal Correctional Institution at Terminal Island in California to serve out his sentence for contempt of court.[126] He was paroled on November 16, 1939, after his wife Mae appealed to the court, based on his reduced mental capabilities.[127][128]

Due to his failing health, Capone was released from prison on November 16, 1939,[132] and referred to the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore for the treatment of paresis (caused by late-stage syphilis). Hopkins refused to admit him on his reputation alone, but Union Memorial Hospital accepted him. Capone was grateful for the compassionate care that he received and donated two Japanese weeping cherry trees to Union Memorial Hospital in 1939. A very sickly Capone left Baltimore on March 20, 1940, after a few weeks of inpatient and outpatient care, for Palm Island, Florida.[133][134][135] In 1942, after mass production of penicillin was started in the United States, Capone was one of the first American patients treated by the new drug.[136] Though it was too late for him to reverse the damage in his brain, it did slow down the progression of the disease.[127]

In 1946, his physician and a Baltimore psychiatrist examined him and concluded that Capone had the mentality of a 12-year-old child.[91]
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone plus my dusty memories from a high school project many decades ago.
 
With respect to the author doing research as part of this TL, Al Capone wasn't in prison in 1944. He was released in late 1939 and by 1944 he was significantly impaired by late stage syphilis.


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone plus my dusty memories from a high school project many decades ago.
And the Japanese would never let a American, as put here being George Lincoln Rockwell join ore create something like the “Free American Corps” and fights alongside Japanese, instead he would like every American POW send to a prison camp and threaten inhumanly.
 
With respect to the author doing research as part of this TL, Al Capone wasn't in prison in 1944. He was released in late 1939 and by 1944 he was significantly impaired by late stage syphilis.


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone plus my dusty memories from a high school project many decades ago.
Butterfly effect, IE anti Italian riots may send him back to prison. OTL Japanese Americans were sent to internment camps so there will be some sort of excuse against Capone…
 
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Butterfly effect, IE anti Italian riots may send him back to prison. OTL Japanese Americans were sent to internment camps so there will be some sort of excuse against Capone…
Yes, they might use his ethnicity against him, but given that he would be evaluated as having the mindset of a preteen only a few years later, wouldn't it be overkill to put him back in prison, given that he would be very harmless?

I just think it would be easier to replace Al Capone with some other notorious Italian-American mobster than trying to justify re-arresting a syphilis-inflicted old man.
 
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Butterfly effect, IE anti Italian riots may send him back to prison
Al Capone was in no shape to take part in a riot in 1944. An anti-italian riot wouldn't result in Al Capone going back to prison as rioters can't convict and sentence individuals. He could have been killed in a riot but why would the rioters kill a terminally ill man as opposed any number of other Italian-American or German-American individuals that had pro-Axis tendencies.
 
Yes, they might use his ethnicity against him, but given that he would be evaluated as having the mindset of a preteen only a few years later, wouldn't it be overkill to put him back in prison, given that he would be very harmless?
(And not to mention that his disease was weakening him over time)
Al Capone was in no shape to take part in a riot in 1944. An anti-italian riot wouldn't result in Al Capone going back to prison as rioters can't convict and sentence individuals. He could have been killed in a riot but why would the rioters kill a terminally ill man as opposed any number of other Italian-American or German-American individuals that had pro-Axis tendencies.
You’re talking about 40s America with the amount of racism in that society
 

nbcman

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You’re talking about 40s America with the amount of racism in that society
Yes, and there was no wholescale murdering of German-, Italian-, or Japanese-American citizens. There were internments which may have increased in scope due to a higher level of anti-Axis feelings. But that level of racism against white German and Italian americans isn't going to fly in the 1940s when they make up about 20-25% of the US population,
 
Yes, and there was no wholescale murdering of German-, Italian-, or Japanese-American citizens. There were internments which may have increased in scope due to a higher level of anti-Axis feelings. But that level of racism against white German and Italian americans isn't going to fly in the 1940s when they make up about 20-25% of the US population,
Which could change due to the common knowledge of loot and plunder by German and Italian guerrillas and the fear of Italo German spies. I’m not saying a full scale deportation but there will be wide scale violence against them
 
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Which could change due to the common knowledge of loot and plunder by German and Italian guerrillas and the fear of Italo German spies. I’m not saying a full scale deportation but there will be wide scale violence against them
So you're proposing violence against a significant fraction of the US population and an even greater fraction of the US military because of some 'common knowledge of loot and plunder'. OK.
 
So you're proposing violence against a significant fraction of the US population and an even greater fraction of the US military because of some 'common knowledge of loot and plunder'. OK.
At least unlike what is happening in Western Europe they are not send to extermination camps, at the moment that is because this TL does a lot of genocide above what happens in OTL.
 

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... maybe a wee bit late to the party. but ...
"They were willing and able to sell these things" is not an answer to the question "Were there anybody willing and
able to buy these additional things, and who were they
?"

Edited to improve grammar.
Possibly the same or similar ones who already bought earlier so called "Nazi plunder" disregarded by the Nazis as "Degenerate Art" of which many pieces were sold IOTL already prior to the war not at least after plundering Czechoslovakia.
.But also during already the war many peices found their way in private collection esp. after France was plundered, often via Swiss traders and bank accounts. Many post-war modern as well as old(er) arts Arts collection even of institutions like the "Museum of Modern Arts" of New York. many have restituted such pieces of art nowaday but estimeated ~ 10.000 pieces are still in "private" collections.
I don't see why these routes of selling art coundn't be used ITTL as well. ... at least regarding international art collectors.

Within the axis-/german-controlled and mostly (aside the swiss loophole) "closed" monetarian space they might be sufficient to reduce internal debts in ways of "accounting".

That's not the issue. The questions are:
Who will sell Nazi Germany the raw materials and capital goods needed to produce extra tanks, aircraft, etc.?
If you've got enough gold (from sold art) on swiss bank accounts at least therer will always "traders" ...
...
How will these goods reach Germany?
... as well as smugglers to be found to deliver via ... i.e. Spain, the mediterrainian and Italy.

Germany/USSR

1943:
Tanks and SP guns: 12,063 / 24,092
Armored cars: 806 / 1,820
Half-tracks: 16,964 / 0
Trucks: 109,483 / 45,545
Cars: 34,478 / 2,546
Locomotives: 5,243 / 43
Train cars: 66,263 / 108

As you can see here, while the Soviets maintained an advantage in things like tanks and armored cars, their production of trucks, half-tracks, cars, locomotives, and train cars was negligible or non-existent. In essence, Germany could and did build a well rounded force while the Soviets didn't and couldn't; their advantage in things like tanks was only possible by sacrificing almost literally everything else. Even this was not sustainable, as Adam Tooze notes in The Wages of Destruction:

With farm labour cut to the bone, to permit the maximum concentration of manpower on the Red Army and on armaments production, only those who worked received adequate rations. By the same token, the extraordinary pitch of mobilization achieved by the Soviet Union in 1942 and early 1943 was not sustainable. By 1944 Germany had clawed back the Soviet advantage in every category.

Basically, the Soviets only outproduced the Germans in select categories; overall, the Germans massively outproduced them

By 1944, however, the categories in which the Soviets had previously had an advantage were also gone
So, I just looked up that page in my copy of the book and the tone is entirely different.
...
The difference :
one is reading the interpretations the other the facts ... (though I have to admitt Tooze often mixes them up almost to undistinguishability)
 
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... maybe a wee bit late to the party. but ...

Possibly the same or similar ones who already bought earlier so called "Nazi plunder" disregarded by the Nazis as "Degenerate Art" of which many pieces were sold IOTL already prior to the war not at least after plundering Czechoslovakia.
.But also during already the war many peices found their way in private collection esp. after France was plundered, often via Swiss traders and bank accounts. Many post-war modern as well as old(er) arts Arts collection even of institutions like the "Museum of Modern Arts" of New York. many have restituted such pieces of art nowaday but estimeated ~ 10.000 pieces are still in "private" collections.
I don't see why these routes of selling art coundn't be used ITTL as well. ... at least regarding international art collectors.
It's not that the routes couldn't be used, but whether any hypothetical buyers would be able (and willing) to pay enough
money to raise multiple panzer divisions (not to mention the logistics of the actual purchase) and be prepared to buy artworks
known to have been last seen at the Louvre at a point when the Allies are in Paris.
(Assuming, as implied by the it only being mentioned in the same breath as the looting and timeline's consistent lack of dates
beyond year at that point, that the sale - and subsequent purchase of materials, production of equipment and raising of
divisions - is instantaneous.)

... as well as smugglers to be found to deliver via ... i.e. Spain, the mediterrainian and Italy.
It's easy to forget due to the way the timeline is presented, but at the point the question was asked, the Allies were in Paris and
at the Gothic Line, so there might be some difficulties with smuggling in large amounts of raw materials by the Mediterranean route.
 
It's not that the routes couldn't be used, but whether any hypothetical buyers would be able (and willing) to pay enough
money to raise multiple panzer divisions (not to mention the logistics of the actual purchase) and be prepared to buy artworks
known to have been last seen at the Louvre at a point when the Allies are in Paris.
(Assuming, as implied by the it only being mentioned in the same breath as the looting and timeline's consistent lack of dates
beyond year at that point, that the sale - and subsequent purchase of materials, production of equipment and raising of
divisions - is instantaneous.)


It's easy to forget due to the way the timeline is presented, but at the point the question was asked, the Allies were in Paris and
at the Gothic Line, so there might be some difficulties with smuggling in large amounts of raw materials by the Mediterranean route.
As mentioned by me in past post,


Say that to Hermann Göring who collection consisted of approximately 50 percent of works of art confiscated from the enemies of the Reich. if he had sold his collection i think we would see more money going into the Reich then if you sold the Louvre art which was as mentioned here: Evacuation of the Louvre museum art collection during World War II was hauled on trucks (203 vehicles transporting 1862 wooden cases) and sent to Château de Chambord in 1939 .

This is how the Louvre looked like in 1939, do you see any art.

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November 1945 : Nakajima Kikka jet fighter is ready for action. The Kikka jet fights against Allied forces in the home islands and China

November 1945 : RSI partisans continue to cause problems for the Allies and thousands of soldiers and civilians continue to die in Italy

November 1945 : Pro British Malaysians, pro independence non Communists, Malaysian Communists, and Malaysian fascists fight in a violent street battle, resembling the 1919 German revolution

November 1945 : Disney bomb penetrate German bunkers. Germany begins to develop anti Disney bomb and anti nuclear technology

November 1945 : German battleship Tirpitz performs naval bombardment at Soviet positions in the Baltic
 
November 1945 : Hamburg nuked

November 1945 : First nuke on Japan is dropped. Hiroshima is nuked

November 1945 : 3 days after the nuke drop on Hiroshima, Kyoto is nuked. Buildings that survived entire millenniums and centuries suddenly ceased to exist. An entire world culture heritage is no more

November 1945 : The Japanese population is in shock. Hirohito orders mourning for the dead. Harrer witnesses religious rituals

November 1945 : Japan launches Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night on US West Coast. Effects on US population is minimal

November 1945 : Sweden continues White bus missions
 
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