Papal States after the 19th century

If there was no Italian unification or if other countries helped the pope with the Italians,he would have been able to hold the papal States.
 
An idea I have been mentally playing with for a while is having the Papal States reduced to just Rome and it surroundings instead of just the Vatican while the rest of Italy is unified. I know its not exactly what you were asking, but it might start a conversation.
 
An idea I have been mentally playing with for a while is having the Papal States reduced to just Rome and it surroundings instead of just the Vatican while the rest of Italy is unified. I know its not exactly what you were asking, but it might start a conversation.
It is more realistic than my idea.When the Papal States lose the war ,the Italians take everything except Rome.
 
Napoléon III occupied Rome on the Pope's behalf from 1849-70. Butterfly the Franco-Prussian war away and that can continue.
 
How long would the people living in the papal state accept being ruled by the pope?
That is the question. Would the Papal States reform or stagnate ? Would it finally industrialize ? The people in Papal Italy might want to migrate if their economic situation worses. The Pope might rely on his private army and make it bigger. Papal Suaves might establish new regiments. Over all, the Papal States could tighten their pressure on internal opposition for many subjects might join Italy. One wonders how international devout Catholic´s opinion regarding the Pope´s secular authority vs his theologic authority differs.
 
I suspect the Papal States would pretty much become a tourist economy, I think the state's survival become more likely if it's limited to the Papal remnant after the Italian Unification.
 
There was nothing more anachronistic in Europe than the perverse obstinacy of the Catholic Church in refusing to renounce their temporal power and at the same time refusing to reform the government: even Metternich by mid 1830s was pretty upset with the miopic and retrograde administration who mismanaged and antagonised each and every province they were governing. The brief hope of an internal reform of the church died in 1848, and when Pius IX was reinstated in 1849 by French bayonets he became remarkable by the repressive policies he ordered and by how much his executioners were kept busy.
By 1860 the rump Papal States (reduced to Latium) were a dead man walking and one of the most significant mistakes of Louis Napoleon was to support them for internal reasons, jeopardising the Italian goodwill earned during the war of 1859. The question was just how long they would last, and French defeat at Sedan sealed their fate. Austria never even blinked, and certainly never offered Pius IX a safe haven (even a half-heated attempt by the pope to reconvene Vatican I in Trento got a very cold shoulder) and the internal situation of Spain was such as to discourage any idea of going into the exile there.
 
If Northern Italy never unifies (I'm looking at the 1740s boarders for example) even if Southern Italy such as Sicily stays in one piece, I can imagine the Papal states keeping at least Latium and staying as a state.
 
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