Pan-Slav State

Another option is 15th century Jagello personal union of Hungary-Croatia + Bohemia + Poland-Lithuania surviving and becoming a single state like the Austrian Habsburg possessions did. Non slavs would be a small minority and such a state would have shores on the Adriatic, Baltic and Pontic seas.
 
Well the only option I see is with the Kievan 'Rus back in the 11th century. If say they had better leadership during the mongol invasions they might have been able to maintain the only real pan slavic state.
 
Well the only option I see is with the Kievan 'Rus back in the 11th century. If say they had better leadership during the mongol invasions they might have been able to maintain the only real pan slavic state.

The problem is that Kievan 'Rus was already splintered by the time of the Mongol invasions.
 
Worth a shot - but how do you propose it be held together? It's a large state, the inheritance laws are problematic, and those rarely combined well.
How did China do it? Could the Tsars command the kind of authority that the Chinese Sons of Heaven had?

Also, I see that bunping a thread can do wonders. ;)
 
How did China do it? Could the Tsars command the kind of authority that the Chinese Sons of Heaven had?

Also, I see that bunping a thread can do wonders. ;)

That only happened because China is mostly not christian if they are christian, the chinese will have a different view of the Emperor.
 
How did China do it? Could the Tsars command the kind of authority that the Chinese Sons of Heaven had?

Also, I see that bunping a thread can do wonders. ;)

China had an actual bureaucracy and a far more stable system.

Christianity doesn't have anything to do with it. The OTL Tsars would do, just not the OTL Grand Princes of Kiev (or Vladimir).
 
China had an actual bureaucracy and a far more stable system.

Christianity doesn't have anything to do with it. The OTL Tsars would do, just not the OTL Grand Princes of Kiev (or Vladimir).

I was talking about the mandate of heaven concept in china..this concept conflicts with Christianity in my opinion.
 
I was talking about the mandate of heaven concept in china..this concept conflicts with Christianity in my opinion.

The mandate of heaven concept doesn't really do a whole hell of a lot for Kievan Rus, as the problem is that no prince was able to resecure the state, not a weak dynasty.
 
please don't call the state Slavia, it sounds kinda dumb.
What about Slavonia?

Or Sorbia?

Or Sarmatia? Perhaps that is it. The Sarmatians (Iranians) hold together politically, adopt the language of the people (Slavonic), and there would be only one Slavonic speaking state and ethnicity.
 
The only way such a country is called Sarmatia is if Sarmatism spreads from Poland to other areas and becomes very popular,
 
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