Palestinian Nonviolent Protests

What PODs are needed to have a large push towards nonviolent resistance on the part of the Palestinians against the Israelis? Personally, I think the best time for this would be during the First Intifada.

A few things that would be needed, I think, would be a leader promoting something like this, and a cultural feeling that it would actually succeed. IMHO I think Mubarak Awad would fit the bill for someone promoting nonviolent resistance, though I could see the danger of a backlash against him since he's Western-educated and a Christian. Nevertheless, what would change if, instead of suicide bombings and armed resistance, a movement developed much like the Civil Rights movement in the USA?

What would be the Israeli reaction to it? Would it end up with greater international sympathy for the Palestinians? This might be ASB, but could we see a Palestinian state much earlier ITTL?
 
Presuming that such a movement would also actually abide by the treaties it made, there would have been a Palestinian state long ago. Perhaps it is naive, but I doubt that in such a scenario, Israel would have any reason not to simply let the Palestinians do as they please, AS LONG as they are reasonable in what they demand (i.e. no driving Israel to the sea, or whatever). I presume a nonviolent movement would be more inclined towards realistic goals, as well.
 
it would work a whole hell of alot better and end the siege mentality in Israel. Since the Israelis would not feel threatened. Also on the world stage its violent put downs of peacefull demonstrations that causes changes in societies.
 
You guys are assuming that the Israelis play ball and stay peaceful. I don't think that's an absolute, and surely some Palestinians will be dumb enough to keep blowing stuff up and killing people.

The Israelis would have to have 40+ years of security paranoia and multiple wars moved away before such a deal could work.

Long and short - the Palestinians would have to bust any armed resistance group and continue with the tactic for a while before the Israelis would start to believe it. Then, you need an Israeli government that is comfortable enough to not have to work with religious elements in order to get a solution, because the religious wingnuts will NOT take kindly to any peace deal that gives away land to the Palestinians.

I figure if the Palestinians take the non-violent route in 1987 (the start of the first intifada), it would take years before the Israelis trust them. The PLO would have to renounce violence as a tool of destroying Israel in 1987, and then you have to butterfly away Hamas or have the PLO crush them - both tall orders. Then the protests of 1987 would have to go on and stay going on for a number of years before the Israelis started to think about a Palestinian state - at least 1997 before that happens, probably early 21st Century.

Now, you could have an Oslo Accord agreement - but that was mediated, and had lots of dectractors on both sides. Hamas hates it and calls it a sellout. Jewish speakers like Daniel Pipes also call it a sellout (But then again, that guy advocates Israel scaring its Arab neighbors into shutting up, then forcing the Palestinians into Jordan by force) and remember that Rabin was murdered by a Jewish zealot.

Long and short - if you started at the Intifada with non-violence, assuming the Israelis didn't take the opportunity to forcibly take the occupied territories (and the religious guys would advocate that) it would still be years before the Israelis trusted the Palestinians enough to start talking to them without the security paranoia clouding their judgement.
 
What PODs are needed to have a large push towards nonviolent resistance on the part of the Palestinians against the Israelis? Personally, I think the best time for this would be during the First Intifada.

A few things that would be needed, I think, would be a leader promoting something like this, and a cultural feeling that it would actually succeed. IMHO I think Mubarak Awad would fit the bill for someone promoting nonviolent resistance, though I could see the danger of a backlash against him since he's Western-educated and a Christian. Nevertheless, what would change if, instead of suicide bombings and armed resistance, a movement developed much like the Civil Rights movement in the USA?

What would be the Israeli reaction to it? Would it end up with greater international sympathy for the Palestinians? This might be ASB, but could we see a Palestinian state much earlier ITTL?

First Intifada would be the last minute to try this, before the religious movements get too much support.
If you could have a moderate leader for the Palestinians that would be able to rein in his unruly extremists - and the Israelies do likewise, remember it take two to tango, it should be possible but very tricky and demanding, for both parties to pull of.

If the Israelis are able to shrug off the siege mentality and percieve that their own extremists as well as the Palestinian extremists are the real threat to this it should be possible.
Problem is as was Israeli internal politics. If the goverment doesn't percieve it has to rely on small religious parties and trust its peoples to want this it should also be possible.

International support for Palestinians? Well could they ask for more at the time?

Palestinian state earlier - definitely!
 
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