Pakistan in the Vietnam war

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  1. Noscoper Well-Known Member

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    Could Pakistan get involved in the Vietnam war in a similar way as South Korea

    How would this effect Pakistan's economy

    How would this effect the Pakistani-Indian wars of 1965 and 1971
     
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  2. Noscoper Well-Known Member

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    How well would Pakistani forces do
     
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    If america does the deal with pakistan like they did with south korea i see no reason why Zia would not want to. Pakistan did have a strong economy for a developing nation pre Zia it was him who fucked it. So it might still be fucked but less so it america funds pakistani development. Paksitan has range areas it recruits soldiers tribal areas will be like south korean soldiers times 11 on brutality normal Pakistani soldiers will normal to an extent. So viet cong would leave them alone. Bengali troops will likely have better experience with jungle so pakistan may be doing more jungle missions, due to understanding it better. Depending on what leader we have in charge pakistani may focus on protecting muslim areas and fighting alongside them against communists. Zia knowing him will portray it as a jihad.

    If pakistan commits forces you should expect more american support during the wars with india. Bangladesh war might not happen as india recognises pakistan has alot of american support, they will win militarily but don't want to piss off america.
     
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  4. Koprulu Mustafa Pasha Sadrazam of the Roman Empire

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    If Islamabad* treats Bengalis better they might use those soldiers in a Vietnam participation. But the the Indian threat means either the USA pressures India to stay put against Pakistan or Pakistani involvement is minimum.
     
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    Don't you mean islamabad, or karachi. This war may force west paksitan to give east pakistan equal rights as strategically it becomes morr important and militarily.
     
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    Lol. My sleeping issues are also hitting me on AH... :p
     
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  7. Noscoper Well-Known Member

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    Zia wasn't leader of Pakistan until 1978
    There isn't a large Muslim population in Vietnam
     
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    Im refering to cham muslims, pakistan will place their efforts to support them.

    Fair enough with Zia, but if pakistan does intervene the war can go longer.

    Also pakistan will make a beeline for vietcong and in a game of who kill mote of who pakistan will win, tirbes of pakistan are savage and portraying the conflict as a jihad. We will see pakistani have adapt strategies for the villages as this would be similar to how pakistan deals with dissidents in the interior.
     
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    The Chams, my dude.
     
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    Pakistani military assets diverted to Vietnam could embolden India to be more aggressive against Pakistan.
     
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    Not going to happen, pakistan are not idiot's to leave themselves undefended, also more us support so they will force india to back down if necessary, america will be seen as weak if they allow a active military allie be defeated.
     
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    This was very unlikely because Pakistan wanted help from the PRC to serve as a counterweight to Soviet aid to India--and the PRC was of course supporting the Communist cause in Vietnam. "During the undeclared war between India and Pakistan in the fall of 1965, Peking served New Delhi an ultimatum as a means of helping Pakistan. Peking's ultimatum turned out to be a bluff, but the Pakistani delegate to the 1965 SEATO Conference in London abstained from the declaration of the conference condemning Communist aggression in Viet Nam. Instead, the delegate urged the restoration of peace in Viet Nam through negotiations on the basis of the Geneva Agreements..." https://www.google.com/search?biw=1......0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.LfGtpl1NU_I
     
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    At that point, though, the Chinese were splitting with the Soviets and making overtures to the US; this is when Nixon went to China, after all. China was not willing to start a general war over Vietnam, which is something it told the Soviets, and Hanoi, several times. China and North Vietnam had tensions which blew up when the Chinese invaded the latter after they invaded Cambodia.

    China may well allow Pakistan to do it so long as it isn't anything major.
     
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    Could they go before 1965
     
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    Kahn was a go between between the us and prc. What if they supplement the phillipines in civic action, building program? I know they could be useful in stealth programs.
     
  20. David T Well-Known Member

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    By the time Nixon went to the PRC, it was long past time for any nation that had not previously sent troops to help South Vietnam to do so; on the contrary, the tendency was all for withdrawal.

    In the mid 1960's the main Sino-Soviet dispute on Vietnam was each side blaming the other for not helping the DRV and NLF enough. "You are helping Pakistan while she participates in US aggression against Vietnam" is not a message the PRC would like to enable... And if Pakistan doesn't send troops to Vietnam by the mid-1960's, she never will. The Sino-Vietnamese communist split and the Sino-American rapprochement were well in the future then. As I already noted, not only wouldn't Pakistan send troops in the mid-1960's, it wouldn't even join in SEATO statements condemning Vietnamese Communists.

    Besides which, Pakistan needed all her troops for actual and potential conflicts with India.
     
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