Chapter 1
PAGAN DAWN
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Pagan Dawn
The dawn of the pagans
On early 18th century the pagans and hindus in old Saludong not touched by the Spanish and resisting against the Spanish who occupied the coastal areas, were able to thrive despite of the famine that happened in the 18th century, the pagans were zealous, and some did puputan or suicide at any humiliating defeat with the Spanish and even allied with the dutch in the previous century and despite that they were able to thrive against all odds.
the pagans in the Northern Philippines yet to be completely controlled by the Spanish recover from the famine that decimated them in 1700’s and reproduced like rabbits, the famine would also not really affect the Kapampangans and Ibanags would recover as well as they are minorly affected by the famine as well.
The Pagans are supposedly decimated by the famines and the pagans said that they are blessed by the old gods as they want to believe, and bountiful harvests afterwards would make them believe that they are blessed due to them surviving famine which would give them more vigor than the Christians at that time, the pagans would also reproduce like rabbits later and return to the town of Tubigaraw and Ilagan in the mid reaches of the Kagayan River and the pagans would also repopulate in the mid reaches of the Pampanga river.
This was during the time that the Pagans would never be affected by the famine is the time after the Spanish succession have been finished.
The pagans would have considered and glorified the 1750’s activity of Taal which is said to be the work of Apo Laki, the Saludongese name for the gods Shiva and Indra which would further envigorate the pagans and hindus in their raids against the Spanish.
The population of Saludong, namely the Kapampangans and Ibanags would backlash the Spanish after they have recovered from the famine like the Pagans which would make the area more rebellious against the Spanish.
Diego Silang Revolt
“Spain allied with France during the Seven Years' War, in opposition to Great Britain. The British in response sought to diminish the Spanish Empire. The seizure of Manila by British naval forces in October 1762, and the subsequent surrender of the Spanish Philippines to Britain during the British occupation of the Philippines, inspired uprisings in the farthest north of Ilocos Norte and Cagayan, where anti-Spanish sentiments festered. Though Silang initially wanted to replace Spanish functionaries in the Ilocos with native-born officials and volunteered to head Ilocano forces against the British, desperate Spanish administrators instead transferred their powers to the Catholic Bishop of Nueva Segovia (Vigan), who rejected Silang's offer. Silang's group attacked the city and imprisoned its priests. He then began an association with the British who appointed him governor of the Ilocos on their behalf and promised him military reinforcement.”
-Freepedia
The revolt of both Palaris and Diego Silang would end up as failures as the british would give up on Manila, the population of the Saludongese who clashed with the Spanish would not support the Silang revolt because of its ethnic character.
Even though the Spanish would execute both Palaris and Diego Silang and the British abandon manila the Pagans would be a threat to the Spanish as well as those converted by the Anglicans which would lead to the decay of the Spanish control in the region, who would ally with the British who would remain to have interests in Saludong, the Pagan revitalization would cause the Spanish control in Saludong to start to collapse in 1750 and advanced in the british occupation of Manila and the pagans and the supporters of Silang and Palaris would take advantage of it and take control of Saludong and create a revolt to expel the Spanish.
The Spanish control in Coastal Saludong would completely collapse in Coastal Saludong in 1770 and the Spanish would retain Macabebe, Laoag, Vigan and Aparri in their rule and the rest of Saludong pass to the Pagans themselves.
What the Spanish would remain to have in the North is Meycauayan area, Macabebe, Laoag, Vigan and Aparri in their rule which would be their borderland which is not stable, this area would be the new border of the Spanish colony.
On 1786, the Spanish would recognize the Pagans as independent from them and the pagans of Saludong and the Spanish would make the cities of Macabebe, Laoag, Vigan and Aparri as ports in Saludong and the catholic churches in Saludong would continue to exist, however Aparri and Macabebe’s Spanish control would be lost due to the population throwing the Spanish yoke and Vigan and Laoag would remain under the Spanish.
Spanish resurgence
On late 18th century with the lands of Saludong is almost gone from Spanish control, the remaining nobility of the Philippines would be the ones loyal to the Spanish which means the revolts against the Spanish are gone and Spanish rule and the Spanish control in the Philippines would be stable and the country would have a rise in stability of the Spanish rule and the Spanish would defeat the Dagohoy revolt in 1810 due to weight of Saludong in their shoulders was relieved.
The Hindu Indian workers would migrate to Saludong and Indian immigration to Saludong would increase and increase the British influence in Saludong and the Chinese would not want to immigrate to Saludong and the Chinese would want to immigrate to the Spanish held Philippines which would assimilate to the Hispanicized upper class of the Spanish held Philippines, many of the Hindus would migrate to inner part of Saludong where in they will mix with the Hindus and Pagans living there.
It has been said the Chinese were scourge to the Spanish but the Chinese would improve the Spanish Philippines’ economy later on which would help the Spanish colony stay afloat and remain desirable to the Spanish.
The Indian influence in Saludong and the Chinese influence in the Philippines would move the difference of the two countries in a way that it is similar to night and day and due to this, the Philippines and the Land of Saludong which was lost from Spanish control, the Indians and influence would predominate in Saludong except in Ilocos where in there are lots of Sangley Mestizos or mixed with Chinese who are increasing in population as well, however due to the expansion in Population of the Hindus of Saludong they would have nowhere to expand to in Saludong which would create future tensions in Population.
The people of Saludong would be staunchly Anti-Chinese and very much pro-Indian and it would be the Samaritan Ilocanos who would support the Chinese in Saludong, many of the Chinese in Saludong in Ilocos were purged by the elites in Saludong.
Novales Revolt
From Freepedia
“Novales' discontent with the way Spanish authorities treated creoles later grew, reaching its climax when peninsulars were shipped to the Philippines to replace creole officers. He found sympathy of many Creoles, including Luis Rodríguez Varela, the Conde Filipino. As punishment for this dissent, many military officers and public officials were exiled, including Novales, who was exiled to Mindanao to fight pirates. Undeterred, he secretly returned to Manila.
The revolt is inspired by Napoleonic revolt and the liberals in Spain.
On the night of June 1, 1823, Novales along with a certain sub-lieutenant Ruiz and other subordinates in the King's Regiment, went out to start a revolt. Along with 800 Filipinos in which his sergeants recruited, they seized the Governor-General's Palace, the Manila Cathedral, the city's cabildo (city hall) and other important government buildings in Intramuros.
Failing to find Juan Antonio Martínez, they killed the lieutenant governor and former governor general, Mariano Fernandez de Folgueras. Folgueras was the one that suggested Spain to replace creole officers with peninsulars. The soldiers shouted ¡Viva el Emperador Novales! ("Long live the Emperor Novales!"). Surprisingly, the townsfolk followed Novales and his troops as they marched into Manila. They eventually failed to seize Fort Santiago because Andrés' brother Mariano, who commanded the citadel, refused to open its gates. Authorities rushed soldiers to the fort upon learning that it was still holding out against the rebels. Novales himself was caught hiding under the Puerta Real by Spanish soldiers.
At 5:00 pm of June 2, Novales, Ruiz, and 21 sergeants were executed by firing squad in a garden near Puerta del Postigo. In his last minutes, Novales declared that he and his comrades shall set an example of fighting for freedom. Mariano was initially to be executed as well for being Andrés' brother, but the crowd pleaded for his freedom with the argument that he had saved the government from being overthrown. Mariano received a monthly pension of ₱14, but went mad after the execution. “
Apo Laki’s blessing
On the late 18th century to early 19th century the pagans who have retreated in population would have increased gradually, the language of Irraya would absorb and merge with Karaklan, Isinay, Ifugao, Gaddang and Bukid and also the Agta, Arta and Alta languages would be merged into one, the arta, alta and agta languages would merge to form the Saludongese or Selurongese language which is basically a blend of the old Ifugao and Irraya languages, the Pagans would continue their recovery from the time they reemerged from the famine in the mid 18th century to early 19th century and the Christians would be a minority in the mid-reaches of Cagayan River and Pampanga river and Tarlac due to the pagans flourishing more and more, the pagans would increase rivaling the Ilocano population and eventually forcing assimilation of the Ilocanos settled in the area, however that would not mean that at that time the language would be standardized.
The Protestants, NeoMuslims in Saludong and Catholic Ilocanos would be settled around the coasts of Saludong except for the Itawis area where there is a native catholic population and not swamped by the Pagans.
What happened is said to be that it is Apo Laki’s blessing that Saludong has recovered from the famine and has expelled the Spanish completely, the Christians, especially the Ibanags and Kapampangans would either revert to Islam or gradually convert to Protestantism except for the Ilocano population of Saludong and the Itawis population of the mid reaches of the Cagayan River.
discussion thread
Pagan Dawn
The dawn of the pagans
On early 18th century the pagans and hindus in old Saludong not touched by the Spanish and resisting against the Spanish who occupied the coastal areas, were able to thrive despite of the famine that happened in the 18th century, the pagans were zealous, and some did puputan or suicide at any humiliating defeat with the Spanish and even allied with the dutch in the previous century and despite that they were able to thrive against all odds.
the pagans in the Northern Philippines yet to be completely controlled by the Spanish recover from the famine that decimated them in 1700’s and reproduced like rabbits, the famine would also not really affect the Kapampangans and Ibanags would recover as well as they are minorly affected by the famine as well.
The Pagans are supposedly decimated by the famines and the pagans said that they are blessed by the old gods as they want to believe, and bountiful harvests afterwards would make them believe that they are blessed due to them surviving famine which would give them more vigor than the Christians at that time, the pagans would also reproduce like rabbits later and return to the town of Tubigaraw and Ilagan in the mid reaches of the Kagayan River and the pagans would also repopulate in the mid reaches of the Pampanga river.
This was during the time that the Pagans would never be affected by the famine is the time after the Spanish succession have been finished.
The pagans would have considered and glorified the 1750’s activity of Taal which is said to be the work of Apo Laki, the Saludongese name for the gods Shiva and Indra which would further envigorate the pagans and hindus in their raids against the Spanish.
The population of Saludong, namely the Kapampangans and Ibanags would backlash the Spanish after they have recovered from the famine like the Pagans which would make the area more rebellious against the Spanish.
Diego Silang Revolt
“Spain allied with France during the Seven Years' War, in opposition to Great Britain. The British in response sought to diminish the Spanish Empire. The seizure of Manila by British naval forces in October 1762, and the subsequent surrender of the Spanish Philippines to Britain during the British occupation of the Philippines, inspired uprisings in the farthest north of Ilocos Norte and Cagayan, where anti-Spanish sentiments festered. Though Silang initially wanted to replace Spanish functionaries in the Ilocos with native-born officials and volunteered to head Ilocano forces against the British, desperate Spanish administrators instead transferred their powers to the Catholic Bishop of Nueva Segovia (Vigan), who rejected Silang's offer. Silang's group attacked the city and imprisoned its priests. He then began an association with the British who appointed him governor of the Ilocos on their behalf and promised him military reinforcement.”
-Freepedia
The revolt of both Palaris and Diego Silang would end up as failures as the british would give up on Manila, the population of the Saludongese who clashed with the Spanish would not support the Silang revolt because of its ethnic character.
Even though the Spanish would execute both Palaris and Diego Silang and the British abandon manila the Pagans would be a threat to the Spanish as well as those converted by the Anglicans which would lead to the decay of the Spanish control in the region, who would ally with the British who would remain to have interests in Saludong, the Pagan revitalization would cause the Spanish control in Saludong to start to collapse in 1750 and advanced in the british occupation of Manila and the pagans and the supporters of Silang and Palaris would take advantage of it and take control of Saludong and create a revolt to expel the Spanish.
The Spanish control in Coastal Saludong would completely collapse in Coastal Saludong in 1770 and the Spanish would retain Macabebe, Laoag, Vigan and Aparri in their rule and the rest of Saludong pass to the Pagans themselves.
What the Spanish would remain to have in the North is Meycauayan area, Macabebe, Laoag, Vigan and Aparri in their rule which would be their borderland which is not stable, this area would be the new border of the Spanish colony.
On 1786, the Spanish would recognize the Pagans as independent from them and the pagans of Saludong and the Spanish would make the cities of Macabebe, Laoag, Vigan and Aparri as ports in Saludong and the catholic churches in Saludong would continue to exist, however Aparri and Macabebe’s Spanish control would be lost due to the population throwing the Spanish yoke and Vigan and Laoag would remain under the Spanish.
Spanish resurgence
On late 18th century with the lands of Saludong is almost gone from Spanish control, the remaining nobility of the Philippines would be the ones loyal to the Spanish which means the revolts against the Spanish are gone and Spanish rule and the Spanish control in the Philippines would be stable and the country would have a rise in stability of the Spanish rule and the Spanish would defeat the Dagohoy revolt in 1810 due to weight of Saludong in their shoulders was relieved.
The Hindu Indian workers would migrate to Saludong and Indian immigration to Saludong would increase and increase the British influence in Saludong and the Chinese would not want to immigrate to Saludong and the Chinese would want to immigrate to the Spanish held Philippines which would assimilate to the Hispanicized upper class of the Spanish held Philippines, many of the Hindus would migrate to inner part of Saludong where in they will mix with the Hindus and Pagans living there.
It has been said the Chinese were scourge to the Spanish but the Chinese would improve the Spanish Philippines’ economy later on which would help the Spanish colony stay afloat and remain desirable to the Spanish.
The Indian influence in Saludong and the Chinese influence in the Philippines would move the difference of the two countries in a way that it is similar to night and day and due to this, the Philippines and the Land of Saludong which was lost from Spanish control, the Indians and influence would predominate in Saludong except in Ilocos where in there are lots of Sangley Mestizos or mixed with Chinese who are increasing in population as well, however due to the expansion in Population of the Hindus of Saludong they would have nowhere to expand to in Saludong which would create future tensions in Population.
The people of Saludong would be staunchly Anti-Chinese and very much pro-Indian and it would be the Samaritan Ilocanos who would support the Chinese in Saludong, many of the Chinese in Saludong in Ilocos were purged by the elites in Saludong.
Novales Revolt
From Freepedia
“Novales' discontent with the way Spanish authorities treated creoles later grew, reaching its climax when peninsulars were shipped to the Philippines to replace creole officers. He found sympathy of many Creoles, including Luis Rodríguez Varela, the Conde Filipino. As punishment for this dissent, many military officers and public officials were exiled, including Novales, who was exiled to Mindanao to fight pirates. Undeterred, he secretly returned to Manila.
The revolt is inspired by Napoleonic revolt and the liberals in Spain.
On the night of June 1, 1823, Novales along with a certain sub-lieutenant Ruiz and other subordinates in the King's Regiment, went out to start a revolt. Along with 800 Filipinos in which his sergeants recruited, they seized the Governor-General's Palace, the Manila Cathedral, the city's cabildo (city hall) and other important government buildings in Intramuros.
Failing to find Juan Antonio Martínez, they killed the lieutenant governor and former governor general, Mariano Fernandez de Folgueras. Folgueras was the one that suggested Spain to replace creole officers with peninsulars. The soldiers shouted ¡Viva el Emperador Novales! ("Long live the Emperor Novales!"). Surprisingly, the townsfolk followed Novales and his troops as they marched into Manila. They eventually failed to seize Fort Santiago because Andrés' brother Mariano, who commanded the citadel, refused to open its gates. Authorities rushed soldiers to the fort upon learning that it was still holding out against the rebels. Novales himself was caught hiding under the Puerta Real by Spanish soldiers.
At 5:00 pm of June 2, Novales, Ruiz, and 21 sergeants were executed by firing squad in a garden near Puerta del Postigo. In his last minutes, Novales declared that he and his comrades shall set an example of fighting for freedom. Mariano was initially to be executed as well for being Andrés' brother, but the crowd pleaded for his freedom with the argument that he had saved the government from being overthrown. Mariano received a monthly pension of ₱14, but went mad after the execution. “
Apo Laki’s blessing
On the late 18th century to early 19th century the pagans who have retreated in population would have increased gradually, the language of Irraya would absorb and merge with Karaklan, Isinay, Ifugao, Gaddang and Bukid and also the Agta, Arta and Alta languages would be merged into one, the arta, alta and agta languages would merge to form the Saludongese or Selurongese language which is basically a blend of the old Ifugao and Irraya languages, the Pagans would continue their recovery from the time they reemerged from the famine in the mid 18th century to early 19th century and the Christians would be a minority in the mid-reaches of Cagayan River and Pampanga river and Tarlac due to the pagans flourishing more and more, the pagans would increase rivaling the Ilocano population and eventually forcing assimilation of the Ilocanos settled in the area, however that would not mean that at that time the language would be standardized.
The Protestants, NeoMuslims in Saludong and Catholic Ilocanos would be settled around the coasts of Saludong except for the Itawis area where there is a native catholic population and not swamped by the Pagans.
What happened is said to be that it is Apo Laki’s blessing that Saludong has recovered from the famine and has expelled the Spanish completely, the Christians, especially the Ibanags and Kapampangans would either revert to Islam or gradually convert to Protestantism except for the Ilocano population of Saludong and the Itawis population of the mid reaches of the Cagayan River.
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