Pacific War with an American North Borneo

WeisSaul

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Let's suppose that the US kept North Borneo in 1865 turned it into a mostly white US territory (68% White, 23% Asian, 8% Malay, 1% Black) and put on the road to statehood (probably getting that status later along with Hawaii and Alaska).

Considering the increased number of troops, more whites being the population, more land to be conquered from the Americans, and the fact that there would likely be a considerable amount of ethnic Japanese people in that 23%, how would the Pacific theater be altered by an American north Borneo assuming that the US still has all of its other OTL territories?
 
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Im gonna presume you mean that the US has North Borneo in 1865, not 1965. I would imagine it has too high a population to repopulate with whites that easily, along with a lack of jobs, infrastructure etc. but I'm not an expert on Malaysia. To be honest, I see very few changes. maybe more insurgency against japanese, maybe less if local japanese are sympathetic to the Empire (although most American Japanese weren't. But I don't see any operational changes. maybe the US would focus more on liberating the East Indies if it includes their territory (especially if its a US state, although that seems unlikely)
 

WeisSaul

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Im gonna presume you mean that the US has North Borneo in 1865, not 1965. I would imagine it has too high a population to repopulate with whites that easily, along with a lack of jobs, infrastructure etc. but I'm not an expert on Malaysia. To be honest, I see very few changes. maybe more insurgency against japanese, maybe less if local japanese are sympathetic to the Empire (although most American Japanese weren't. But I don't see any operational changes. maybe the US would focus more on liberating the East Indies if it includes their territory (especially if its a US state, although that seems unlikely)

North Borneo had a population of some 285,000 in 1939. If the US took it in 1865 it'd be a hell of alot more smaller and alot more easily demographically colonized.

When did the U.S. have any part of Borneo?

The US was given a 10 year lease in 1865, which it promptly sold a month later. It would have just extended the lease indefinitely until the Bruneians just sold it off entirely.
 
IT'S PHILIPPINES! WHY CAN'T ANYONE TYPE IT CORRECTLY WHENEVER IT'S MENTIONED (more or less most of the time)! :mad:

(not unless you were reffering to something else, which is then a fail on my part if it was)
Calm down, that was a simple case of me being to lazy to correct my spelling. Regardless, my point still stands.
 
Considering the "success" in which the Philippines and Dutch East Indies were defended, I doubt that North Borneo would last long. MacArthur would probably want to liberate it along with the Philippines. The US might invade North Borneo at the same time as the Philippines, making the rest of the East Indies easier to take.

Statehood sounds dubious but stranger things have happened.
 
North Borneo had a population of some 285,000 in 1939. If the US took it in 1865 it'd be a hell of alot more smaller and alot more easily demographically colonized.

Extremely unlikely given the distance and the climate. It would probably be governed by the Department of the Navy, like Samoa or Guam were for a while. The population would always be an Asian majority.
 
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