Epidemology does not work that way, in an isolated Vinland seanario resistence would not be maintained and in an linked Vinland one the population would just be killed off earlier (and its a multi century recovery with the natives still at a disease disadvantage).
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Epidemology does not work that way, in an isolated Vinland seanario resistence would not be maintained and in an linked Vinland one the population would just be killed off earlier (and its a multi century recovery with the natives still at a disease disadvantage).
That does annoy me in Vinland tls how you quickly have a broad swathe of eastern America coloured in for Vinland. No way would the Vikings work like that, they would establish isolated settlements all around the place, set up new kingdoms for themselves, etc...
This is yet another example of the too much civilization 2 method of alternate history- the more red painted on the map the stronger the red country must be! Grand scale political maps are all that matters!
This is yet another example of the too much civilization 2 method of alternate history- the more red painted on the map the stronger the red country must be! Grand scale political maps are all that matters!
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2 and 8 are quite likely, considering trends at the time. 1, 4, 6, 10, 11, 12 (depending on what you consider super), 13 and 14 are achievable with some minor PODs. The others are bad clichés.
Japan is politically united. Nobody has ever found the need to identify the RGB for "Japanese colonial successor state" in the UCS or any variation.
No matter how long the diaspora population has existed, or what its history has been since, all persons descended from Japanese parents will identify as ethnically Yamato, speak a mutually-comprehensible Japanese based on the Tokyo dialect, and retain the culture of the Home Islands as perfectly as if it had been drowned in amber.
(There's a bunch of others that tie into Japan, but this is the most obnoxious one to me. I'm going to avert them, in big ways, in several centuries.)
No matter how long the diaspora population has existed, or what its history has been since, all persons descended from Japanese parents will identify as ethnically Yamato, speak a mutually-comprehensible Japanese based on the Tokyo dialect, and retain the culture of the Home Islands as perfectly as if it had been drowned in amber.
(There's a bunch of others that tie into Japan, but this is the most obnoxious one to me. I'm going to avert them, in big ways, in several centuries.)
This one isn't about the TLs but more the critics or certain TLs, in that if someone uses more than one POD then it's immediately implausible or poorly written. I can understand if they're utterly massive PODs that are immediately world-changing, however if it's multiple minor PODs (such as marriages or an individuals religious beliefs) then I think they should be allowed.
How could it not be? I am not kidding. How can the home islands not be unified absent foreign intervention? Kill the entire imperial family? I don't think even that's possible because of intermarriage.
Decades of Darkness did it, but did any other?
One that annoys me more is Japan suddenly deciding to expand into Indonesia and everyone else being OK with it.
Religion would work. I'm not sure what the POD would be, but I could see a Catholic (probably Satsuma-led) government not recognizing the Tokugawa. Much smaller differences have kept the Serbs and Croats separate for centuries. (You could get multiethnic Japan too if, say, the Emishi fared better, but that would probably take a POD in the Heian period.)
I was talking more generally: Japan is a monolithic solid. There's exactly one Japonic place on the map (often a very big one), never more. They export all their colonial rebellions, civil wars, and religious separatism to the continental United States instead, which is why it's always so Balkanized.
Southern Japan and Ryukyu could unite but the POD should be before the Shougunate.
I have a thread about the Japanese language.
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=190800
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Successful Staufen HRE = Plantagenet-wank.
Yes, the Angevins had a shot at uniting France and England, but so did the Capetians.
Yes, the Angevins had a shot at uniting France and England, but so did the Capetians.
How about the inevitable rise of the Incas in Pre-Columbian timelines? I can't tell you how many fledgling "Chinese discover the New World" speculation threads I've seen that have the Chinese make contact with the Incas decades before the Spanish. The problem is, the Incas were nobody in the 1420's - just a small city-state isolated in the mountains. The Chinese would more likely have made contact with the prevailing Chimu civilization that had long-established itself along the coast of northern Peru at that point. By the time the Inca would have become expansionist, the Chimu would already have huge technological and geographical advantages (assuming they haven't set out to conquer the Andes for themselves already).
The same could be said for the Aztecs, too. I suppose it's easier to write about what you're more familiar with, though.
The same could be said for the Aztecs, too. I suppose it's easier to write about what you're more familiar with, though.
I'm glad somebody brought this up, partially because I have developed some interest in non-Inca Andean cultures. And while the "write what you know" thing is the main reason for sure, it should be avoided more. That excuse is used to often to have random unlikely people take over half the world. In any case though, it would be nice to see the Chimu become the predominant people of the Andes. And the same goes for Mexico. Wonder how different things would be if the Mixtecs or even the "Toltecs" controlled Central Mexico.
