"Our Struggle": What If Hitler Had Been a Communist?

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Perfidious Albion

@The Red I thought this was meant to be a dramatic tragedy about the rise and fall of Communist Hitler, not a slapstick comedy about Robert Oaks being dispatched to every hot-spot in the world and being relieved to be sent to a quiet peaceful place, only for the bombs to go off two minutes later.
 

rjd1997

Perfidious Albion said:
@The Red I thought this was meant to be a dramatic tragedy about the rise and fall of Communist Hitler, not a slapstick comedy about Robert Oaks being dispatched to every hot-spot in the world and being relieved to be sent to a quiet peaceful place, only for the bombs to go off two minutes later.
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He’s the diplomat equivalent of Tanya Von Degurechaff!
 
LNSS

LNSS

One thing to note is that probably the DAR will be somewhat weaker than Nazi Germany militarily when WW2 starts. Hence the need for the USSR to keep up with the Allies hmm
 

Skulduggery

LNSS said:
One thing to note is that probably the DAR will be somewhat weaker than Nazi Germany militarily when WW2 starts. Hence the need for the USSR to keep up with the Allies hmm
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that depends on when the Communist Alliance (or whatever it'll be named...'Worker's Bloc' maybe) becomes a thing...

If the Soviets start helping them soon, they could jumpstart the German military, but I suspect you are right
 

The Red

Mwex said:
Another thing that is fascinating is that ITTL WW2 is basically Stalin's wet dream, this time he can really use the germans to weaken or even destroy the western powers, while the URSS can just sit tight and watch his competitors weaken each other.
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It's not without its complications. Whilst it is good to have Germany as an ally problems arise when it becomes at least an equal in the Socialist world to the extent that joint leadership becomes a reality. At that point you have a situation where Communist parties around the world get the choice of whether Berlin or Moscow are correct on this issue or that. Of course the easy solution to that is to have a joint line which can be prearranged but then you have the leader of Germany who is hell bent on making the political struggle between Capitalism and Communism a military one and the (effective) leader of the Soviet Union stressing caution. As good as being cautious is can you really 'sit tight' when your only real ally is locked in a fight with all your enemies. Enemies who are likely to come after you when they're done with Germany whether you 'sat tight' or not?


mudhead said:
This seems a bit anachronistic.
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That's fair, fixed.

mudhead said:
I can't find any reference to Griffin - is he an invented character?
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Let's just say this isn't his first TL.

Perfidious Albion said:
@The Red I thought this was meant to be a dramatic tragedy about the rise and fall of Communist Hitler, not a slapstick comedy about Robert Oaks being dispatched to every hot-spot in the world and being relieved to be sent to a quiet peaceful place, only for the bombs to go off two minutes later.
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I must admit The Winter's Tale is my favourite Shakespeare play.

rjd1997 said:
He’s the diplomat equivalent of Tanya Von Degurechaff!
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I'm afraid I don't know much about manga beyond Junji Ito but thanks?

TheKennedyMachine. said:
Does the idea of Germania (The city) still come up in this timeline?
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Probably not, there isn't really the same reason for Hitler to despise Weimar Berlin to the extent it has to be razed and there certainly isn't for the people around him. Konigsberg might be due a name change however.
 

The Red

President Earl Warren said:
Speaking of which, where is Speer right now?
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Still an architectural assistant in Berlin, assuming he survived the chaos in the city it's a good time to have such a profession.

Darksider166 said:
what about Arbeiterstadt? City of the Workers for Königsberg?
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I was thinking they might do something related to Kant but I like the sound of that as well.

HagenWest said:
Will we see german involvement in china now that he is sent to shanghai?
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KMT-Weimar cooperation was pretty extensive during this period so it's bound to come up.
 
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Korean

Have anyone posted worthy songs that would be sung by the United Front? I don't recall so here. I tried to find some possible socialist/communist songs that the soldiers of the United Front would have sung. Or songs that have been played on United Front radio stations.



Question for @The Red, is "the Song of the United Front" canon in this timeline? From my understanding, the song was not written until after the Nazis gained power. I would think that this timeline version of the song would have been written during the German Civil War.


Edit: Another Song link
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Dem Morgenrot entgegen - Towards the dawn (German Lyrics & English Translation)

German the worker movement song English: Towards the dawn Russian: Вперед заре навстречу These songs are for educational purposes and don't reflect my belief...
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Diverge

Speaking of music, here's almost certainly the anthem of the KPD:
And what I have (correctly or not) inferred to be the anthem of the DAR:
Also, here's a pro-Soviet song that makes even more sense in this timeline's WW2:
 

Korean

Potential German Nationalist/Fascist/Royalist Songs.

I included the National Anthem in this list, but honestly, I think that it would be sung by people in both factions.
 
St. Just

St. Just

Der heimliche Ausmarch would be a great anthem (even if slightly reworded) -- it's always been one of my favorite commie songs, the German equivalent of The Sacred War
 
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