"Our Struggle": What If Hitler Had Been a Communist?

I'm more familiar with the British system- King George VI, for example, was King of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and so on; and Emperor of India.
If anything, I thought it was rather sad. ATL Himmler gave his efforts, his life, his everything to a cause whose supreme leader casually tossed him aside like trash for not being sufficiently photogenic. He is dead and he does not even have the hollow consolation of being remembered by his own side.

We can know, of course, that if he ever attained power Himmler would not use it well as a good man, to put it very mildly; but I still think that, on principle, a human being deserves better than that.

While it is a good point, consider how focused on appearances this bunch was OTL. If they were to cast one aside because their image wasn't suitable, it would be ideologically consistent- the message must be tailored to the audience to get them to buy in. Granted, the situation OTL made for jokes that write themselves:

Blond like Hitler
Tall like Göbbels
Slim like Göring
Handsome like Himmler
Sane like Hess
 
If anything, I thought it was rather sad. ATL Himmler gave his efforts, his life, his everything to a cause whose supreme leader casually tossed him aside like trash for not being sufficiently photogenic. He is dead and he does not even have the hollow consolation of being remembered by his own side.

We can know, of course, that if he ever attained power Himmler would not use it well as a good man, to put it very mildly; but I still think that, on principle, a human being deserves better than that.

That's an interesting point although I'd argue that what's happened to Himmler ITTL is rather fitting in its own way. Here was a person who was driven by a search to achieve personal glory, possibly to impress his father, or arguably to make up for a feeling of missed opportunity having been too young to take part in the First World War, an archetypal Angry Young Man. His fate here was typical to that of many Angry Young Men throughout history, having their drive channelled towards someone elses cause, employing the hate they'd developed from an early age, before ultimately being just another statistic in a street fight with a small notice in a party newspaper. Or on a war grave. Or just rendered missing forever.

IOTL, Himmler was able to rise to the top because unlike many of his fellow Angry Young Men he had ambition and cunning to match his drive and a complete lack of empathy that made him an asset and ultimately a leader in the Nazi regime. Here he had those same qualities but being in the wrong place and the wrong time he's just ended up as another unlucky fascist goon to be used up and forgotten about. If he had been more photogenic, or if he had had a friendship with a senior party member like Horst Wessel, then as you say he might have got the consolation prize of being used as a martyr, but he served people who only grant martyrdom to people who might be useful in such a role. I don't feel any sympathy for him because we all know that he would have done the same thing to others had he managed to thrive ITTL, but here he was at the bottom of the food chain. When you pledge your life to such a animalistic and hateful creed, it's always best to be at the top.
 
That's an interesting point although I'd argue that what's happened to Himmler ITTL is rather fitting in its own way.
Oh OTL Himmler was a piece of slime, there's no disputing that.

I suppose my reaction in truth is less pity to Himmler than disgust to Wilhelm von Hohenzollern. Human life should be worth more than the value Wilhelm places on it. There's just something viscerally, powerfully repulsive to me about that sort of leader - the sort who can see another human being who died for you and cast them aside with such petty, scathing contempt.
 
What would be the Volkisch Bund slogan?



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I was thinking that they'd probably just have taken "Gott mit uns" as their motto, granted it's hardly exclusive (and a bit unoriginal on my part!) As @mudhead says the Crown Prince would probably be a bit worried about the effect that proclaiming "Ein Kaiser" might have on the non-Prussian aristrocracy who would otherwise be low hanging fruit for his movement.
 
Also, Red

That might be better served as 'Das Volk'.
Interesting chapter, though.

Good point, that's it fixed.

I suppose my reaction in truth is less pity to Himmler than disgust to Wilhelm von Hohenzollern. Human life should be worth more than the value Wilhelm places on it. There's just something viscerally, powerfully repulsive to me about that sort of leader - the sort who can see another human being who died for you and cast them aside with such petty, scathing contempt.

You're spot on. Wilhelm might have developed a messiah complex ITTL but that doesn't mean he's obliged to view the "lower orders" with anything other than contempt. Here was a guy who supported the Nazis up until they made it clear they weren't interested in restoring the Monarchy. Because that was clearly their greatest crime.

At the end of the war IOTL he was found by French soldiers in the little mountain village of Baad in Austria where he had been staying at a friend's hunting lodge. When detained he asked to be allowed to return to "the comforts of the chalet", and when the French refused he demanded to speak to their Commander-in-Chief, General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny. When he met de Tassingy, Wilhelm repeated his request to be allowed to return to the lodge, causing de Tassigny to reply "In the face of your country's collapse, you, a man of 65, care for nothing but your own comfort. You are lamentable Monsieur, and that is all I have to say to you."
 
Oh OTL Himmler was a piece of slime, there's no disputing that.

I suppose my reaction in truth is less pity to Himmler than disgust to Wilhelm von Hohenzollern. Human life should be worth more than the value Wilhelm places on it. There's just something viscerally, powerfully repulsive to me about that sort of leader - the sort who can see another human being who died for you and cast them aside with such petty, scathing contempt.

ITTL, if you serve a cause by which one must live by the sword, don't act surprised when the sword is turned your way.

That's why I have no sympathy for such a man, regardless of how badly he wanted recognition in his life.
 
'But the civilised human spirit, whether one calls it bourgeois or merely leaves it at civilised, cannot get rid of a feeling of the uncanny.'

~ Dr Faustus, Thomas Mann



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‘The world is one of an ever present struggle, our struggle.


The German nation stands at a precipice, the working class stare down towards the pit, and as always the bourgeois industrialists threaten us with hell if we do not comply to their ever increasing demands. When we rise, they use the state organs of violence, their thugs in the police and the army, to crush our protests. It is a regime of oppression that continues to stumble between crises with seemingly no end in sight, exploiting each one to increase their dominance over the proletariat.

It is in this spirit that I write this work on the war being waged against the German worker, and how we must all fight back.The workers have grown in strength for over a century and the time is coming when they shall exercise their power.

The German proletariat cries out for power to be wrenched from the timid and feckless bourgeoisie, as is their right. Such is the role of the Communist Party. There are forces designed to impede the triumphant advance of the German worker that has been built on the popular uprisings at the end of the great imperialist slaughter. If we do not identify and eliminate these class enemies, they will bring our chariot of fate to a standstill just as it seems ready to reach its goal.

It is evident that our movement can gain the public significance and support which are necessary pre-requisites in this struggle of the classes, though only with a sacrosanct conviction in the hearts of its followers. There is no alternative in bringing about the great awakening of the German proletariat. This is not a case of introducing a new electoral slogan into the political field, our views are consistent, our justification immortal.

We must succeed, and we will.

The future demands it.’

~ Preamble to Our Struggle, Adolf Hitler


The Symbol you used is the Symbol of strasserism, is he more of a strasserist in this timeline? Or is that symbol just used by German communists?
 
I don't see the Monarchists ending very well here. Exile at best, crushing defeat in civil war at worst. It would be pretty funny seeing an army of German Monarchists fighting with the Italians (The Duce is going to be first to fall. Is inevitable) or even the Allies. Can you imagine Wilheim going back to the throne after Hitler's defeat? We are talking of commie Hitler after more of 10 years of war here, people. Anything is posible!!!
 
I don't see the Monarchists ending very well here. Exile at best, crushing defeat in civil war at worst. It would be pretty funny seeing an army of German Monarchists fighting with the Italians (The Duce is going to be first to fall. Is inevitable) or even the Allies. Can you imagine Wilheim going back to the throne after Hitler's defeat? We are talking of commie Hitler after more of 10 years of war here, people. Anything is posible!!!

I wouldn't dismiss Italy just yet. I like to subvert expectations and that's much easier to pull off when a country's first class divisions are able to fight in the environment they trained for.
 
Well, OTL the main problem with Italy was Mussolini's early rearmament; he rearmed too early and his equipment was outdated. The war here seems to start in the mid-1930s, so Mussolini's army would be much more effective in this situation.
 
Chapter LIX
"We think as one with the German people – we have nothing in common with the German Tirpitzes and Falkenhayns, with the German government of political oppression and social enslavement. Nothing for them, everything for the German people. Everything for the international proletariat, for the sake of the German proletariat and downtrodden humanity."

~ Karl Liebknecht, The Main Enemy Is At Home!




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The light of the early afternoon spilled into what Gerda presumed was Adolf Hitler’s apartment, leaving his cramped personal study unbearably warm. It was not much help for the toxic cocktail of sleep deprivation and anxiety that was currently being mixed together at breakneck speed in her head. Any immediate thoughts of danger had been overwhelmed by her overbearing stress in regards to the situation.

“We were worried about you”, those who escorted her to this unknown place had reassured her, “we have just heard that Party President Thalmann was able to make it out of the city but there are still many Comrades unaccounted for.” The two dark suited men had been waiting for Gerda and Rosa when they had returned to Berlin, one she recognised as a member of the Red Front, the other she couldn’t place but by both of their faces it was clear they had been through the wars. Both seemed pleased to see her, one even offered a toothy grin in a way that indicated they may have had more teeth until recently. Gerda had decided to play along, no longer sure which faction she was being played by.

“Oh, Comrade Thalmann’s outside Berlin?” Gerda said with what she hoped was a plausible level of surprise she had squeezed Rosa’s arm as if to remind her that she was there and that she was safe. Once again Gerda and Rosa were being driven from their station, like two bourgeois maidens, it was something she decided to never do again if she could help, and looked for a way to get her daughter out of the situation as quickly as possible. Until then she could only wait to see where they were being driven, passively agreeing with the men’s small talk that it was fortunate that there was no Enabling Act as there had been in 1924, otherwise some of their comrades could have been in real danger. She used this opportunity to inquire about dropping her daughter off at her home.

It was with great relief that she got an answer when she knocked on the door of the flat, her friend Christina had judged it safe to return to Berlin and had been nursing a hangover in their shared dwelling. Apparently the weekend had taken precedence to being swept up in any sort of anti-Communist backlash. Christina hadn’t been particularly enthusiastic about the prospect of looking after a young child but Gerda had assured her that she would be back soon. That had been a lie.

From her flat near Karl Liebknecht Haus Gerda had been driven to another dwelling inside Wedding, one of Berlin’s reddest areas, and one still recovering from the raids that had taken place the previous day. She was escorted through the gutted streets to her present location and asked to wait for the General Secretary. She had tried once again to look nonplussed, not even bothering to ask whose home she was now sitting in as if being led into someone else’s study in a strange flat to wait for Adolf Hitler was the most natural thing in the world.

Waiting allowed her mind to wander about what might happen to her by the end of the day, but as the hours ticked by and the sun began to retreat outside her worry was overtaken by boredom. Her eyes wandered around the room, looking for something to read or to at least occupy her thoughts, but it seemed as if the room had been recently cleared, all except a half-written letter addressed to an “Eva”, which she reached for just as she heard someone fumbling with the door before Adolf Hitler entered.

“Comrade Muller.”

“Comrade General Secretary.”

“I am sorry to have kept you waiting, for that I truly do apologise but we are at an impasse and that is why I needed to talk with you urgently, there are so many plans afoot and I sometimes don’t know if there’s anyone I can trust.” Hitler appeared to realise he was rambling, and let out an embarrassed bark of laughter.

Gerda witnessed the man trying to laugh at the absurdity of his own comment, before he looked at her straight in the eyes as he sat down across from her with a slump. Something in what she saw had summoned the intuition she had gleaned from her years of being uncertain who to trust, or perhaps it was even her maternal instinct, but suddenly she could feel this man’s desperation and bizarrely, she felt herself reciprocating it.

“This was never about me, you know.” Hitler mused with a strangely gruff tone. Gerda was more than a little sceptical of that statement but in her capacity to empathise she managed to nod in agreement.

“We give our lives for his cause, something that’s hard to understand to an outsider. Even some of those in our own movement don’t seem to understand the concept of real sacrifice. You and I though, we were on the streets from the very beginning. Am I incorrect in believing that you fought with Liebknecht and Luxemburg?”

Gerda didn’t answer the question, instead asking one of her own.

“Do you mind if I smoke?”

The General Secretary raised his hands disarmingly, as if to suggest she shouldn’t have had to worry about asking in the first place. She took out the packet of Senoussi she had bought at the Hamburg greengrocers and opened it up whilst Hitler admired the Bedouin tribe on the colourful box.

“Can I have one of those?”

Gerda put two of the cigarettes in her mouth and struck a match, lighting them simultaneously before handing one to the General Secretary. He coughed violently shortly after inhaling and she involuntarily put her hand on his shoulder before realising the issue.

The man didn’t smoke.

“I’ve heard that these help to relieve stress,” Hitler remarked, observing the glowing cigarette between his fingers as if it had arrived from another world.

“They can do that...at least for a while.” Gerda said, still trying to humour the man she had spent the night trying to remove from power.

“I fear that I shall need something more substantive for our problems,”

Our problems?

“I thought for a while that I was paranoid but I know that I had good reason to be. There are members of this party that would sooner listen to Moscow than do what’s right for the German worker. These people include the Party President. And I know that they’ve tried to include you as well.”

Hitler’s tone remained neutral but Gerda felt winded all of a sudden, as she met Hitler’s eyes again, expecting to see the crooked snarl she’d seen during his speeches. Instead there was just the same bleak stare.

“In Hamburg last night, there was a meeting, one that implicated me as a mad man, based...at least partially, on the riot that occurred this weekend.”

Gerda opened her mouth to explain but no words came out, as Hitler waved his hand reassuringly, stubbing out the neglected cigarette on the desk between them.

“You were told that I was responsible for the riot, and for that I don’t blame you for going along with Thalmann’s plot. Believe me, if that were true I would have put my own head in the noose. But this is not the case, and I can prove it.”

He turned to the door and announced calmly for a man named “Comrade Mielke” to enter, Gerda noticed him immediately as one of the men who had taken her from the station.

“Could you explain to Comrade Muller what happened on the eve of the riot I supposedly generated?”

“The lead-, excuse me, the General Secretary,” the Red Front man corrected himself with an awkward expression, “was absent from proceedings when the order went out to break-up the fascist rally. The order was instead given by Party President Thalmann. He is our honorary commander after all.”

“Honorary as you say,” Gerda replied to Adolf, preferring to address the organ grinder, “you do realise that the Party President has made the same allegation against you, merely in reverse?”

“I do, I do,” Hitler raised his hands gently in a motion that could have been similar to the one he would have made if Gerda had pointed a gun at him.

“The difference is, I am addressing these concerns to you, rather than to Moscow. And I think you know why.”

Gerda rolled her eyes, her frustration overtaking her discomfort.

“Next you’ll be telling me that Party President Thalmann wishes to form an alliance with the Social Fascists as well.”

“No, the allegation about my wish to form an alliance with the Social Democrats is true Brandler too. Thalmann wants to use it to destroy me, and Moscow may agree with him if they can be convinced. But I feel like the workers of Germany know better as to what’s coming than those in Russia and when the fascist coup is launched. We will need to be united with anything that has real workers behind it, at least temporarily. We cannot simply die on the streets again in the hope the workers side with us. We need to be able to lead a mass movement from the barricades, even if it means standing with those we despise.”

There was a conviction in the man’s voice that Gerda hadn’t heard him have before without also having that contemptible snarl he was wont to use. She couldn’t help but feel like she was being sold a fantasy all the same.

“The Social Democrats will ally with capital.” She reminded the General Secretary.

“Many of them will, but there are some who will stick with us, and when the others earn their social fascist name, the workers will no longer be bought and sold by their illusions! It will be a difficult road ahead, but if we are to emerge victorious we must take the first step. If Moscow doesn’t allow this we must break with Moscow until they see sense, if Thalmann doesn’t allow this he must be cast out of the party.” Hitler seemed to stop himself before descending into a rant, his voice remained earnest.

“Now, Comrade Muller, do you want incompetence and fascism born out of ideological purity, or do you want to take a chance?”

Gerda was ready to tell him she wanted to leave but in the back of her mind she couldn’t help but feel that there was a certain logic playing out. There was part of her that could think back to the deaths of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht, the way the Freikorps had swaggered around Berlin, murdering everyone who opposed them. It was what had made her question everything, that which had made her stick with a party that seemed to have already died at the time.

She also remembered the bursts of fire and tank treads grinding over her comrades as she had tried to defend a barricade with a kitchen knife. The Social Democrats had allied with the Freikorps then, now the fascists would hang them all separately.

In that moment of remembrance, she found herself nodding along with Hitler’s words.

“We do need a chance.”

Hitler was smiling again now, no longer bashfully but with a manner that appeared to Gerda as something closer to hope.

“I cannot express how relieved I am that you agree, but nonetheless events are in motion and we will have to act quickly if we are to get a grasp at that chance we both desire. Moscow’s agents are everywhere, as are those of the German state, and those of the fascist conspiracy who will soon replace them. We may find ourselves placed against all of these opponents at once and for that we’ll need a strong and united communist movement. A party full of people like you.”

“People like me?”

“Yes, you and many others.”

There was now something impish in the General Secretary’s grin.

“After all, I’m not a demagogue.”


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The painting is The Beggar of Prachatice by Conrad Felixmuller
 
"We think as one with the German people – we have nothing in common with the German Tirpitzes and Falkenhayns, with the German government of political oppression and social enslavement. Nothing for them, everything for the German people. Everything for the international proletariat, for the sake of the German proletariat and downtrodden humanity."

~ Karl Liebknecht, The Main Enemy Is At Home!
Woah, impressive!
I really enjoy this TL.

I also like the way you write, wish I could write like that in English as well.
:p
 
And so an enemy becomes a friend.

My God, it's hard to think of Hitler being so personable, so relatable, so good at winning people over to like him and trust him and believe that he selflessly cares about them. Most people in Western society, and especially those of ethnic background like mine, are prone to thinking of him as more demon than man, like a great and terrifying natural disaster that crashed down upon us. Of course he must have been able to be like this, at least in the early years when he was still rising to power, or else he would never have been Führer in the first place and the 20th century would not have happened as it did; but it's not a thought that comes naturally to me.

This is, and remains, superb AH of the best sort: the sort that makes you learn and think more about OTL.
 
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