"Our Struggle": What If Hitler Had Been a Communist?

Ah 'International Capital' eh. Also that's a bad result for the spd.
My goodness, the German Communist Party is the third largest now! People are going to get really concerned about Hitler. The KPD strength is only going to grow when Hitler seems to be proven right after the Stock Market crashes.
 
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How about Zentrum + SDP? GroKo 80 years earlier? :p

That would give them the majority, but i can't see the SDP not going down hill on the next elections. The DNVP might be too unfriendly to both, and alianate them, while the KPD keeps growing. So the Far right and the left would become the two gigantic forces, with Zentrum loosing it's power to govern as the SDP dies. A Germany of extremes.
 
How about Zentrum + SDP? GroKo 80 years earlier? :p

That plus the DDP and sometimes also the DVP is what the Weimar Coalition was, and arguably the reason those were the parties that survived Nazism. I'd consider it the most probable outcome of this, assuming Ebert is still alive - if he isn't and the right got its candidate in, anything goes.
 
...The baggy uniforms and coat were all done in beige...
IOTL the NSDAP was able to get a warehouseful of redundant tropical issue uniforms, originally intended for the colonies, at a knockdown price. Hence "Brownshirts". Bet something similar has happened here.
 
That plus the DDP and sometimes also the DVP is what the Weimar Coalition was, and arguably the reason those were the parties that survived Nazism. I'd consider it the most probable outcome of this, assuming Ebert is still alive - if he isn't and the right got its candidate in, anything goes.

All four look needed for a simple majority, although I assume that the BVP will generally follow Z's lead just with more Blue and White and the WP can probably behave themselves as well.

I assume that LL is some farmers party and VB is some Volkisch party.
 
I assume that LL is some farmers party and VB is some Volkisch party.
Indeed. The VB is actually my invention for the wikibox - I figured there'd probably be some sort of Völkisch bunch consisting of Ludendorff et al, but that without a Hitler they probably wouldn't even reach the dubious heights of OTL 1924.
 
Indeed. The VB is actually my invention for the wikibox - I figured there'd probably be some sort of Völkisch bunch consisting of Ludendorff et al, but that without a Hitler they probably wouldn't even reach the dubious heights of OTL 1924.

I’m guessing VB stands for something like “Völkisch Bund”, and not something like “Visual Basic”?
 
'"Völkisches Block" was my idea, although I suppose "Völkischer Bund" might work too. I'll leave it up to @The Red.'

[Der] Völkische Block would be grammatically correct.

Of course, the German language is needlessly complicated by having far too many articles.
 
The VB are essentially a more radical version of the DNVP. They enjoy some attention thanks to Ludendorff being their leader but their penchant for conspiracy theory and lacklustre leadership leaves them on the fringe.
 
'"Völkisches Block" was my idea, although I suppose "Völkischer Bund" might work too. I'll leave it up to @The Red.'

[Der] Völkische Block would be grammatically correct.

Of course, the German language is needlessly complicated by having far too many articles.

It depends on whether the article is there - with the article it's "-ische", without it it's "-ischer". The mysteries of German declension are deep indeed. (but you're right that I was wrong)
 
'It depends on whether the article is there - with the article it's "-ische", without it it's "-ischer". The mysteries of German declension are deep indeed.'


Aye, quite so. I'm a native German speaker and I sometimes wish our grammar was simpler. lol.


Anyhow, I'm enjoying the TL. Looking forward to its further progression and seeing what shenanigans Volksführer Hitler gets up to.
 
Soooo.

I decided to try a Communist Germany game in Darkest Hour (it has a 1933 start date with a choice to go communist as Germany), and while it has no Hitler as Volksführer, I believe the experience is relevant to this TL anyway.

Germany going communist is both an easy and a hard game.

The hard part is that you don't have access to easy bloodless expansion that Nazi Germany does. You cannot have a plebiscite in the Saar, you cannot Anschluss or have the Munich Diktat. You need to declare wars to expand anywhere past your 1933 borders, and since Central Europe is a jarbled mess of guarantees, non-aggression pacts and alliances, it ain't gonna be easy.

In addition, your army is pretty shit. Since you switch tags from GER to GDR, you lose all of Nazi Germany's plethora of high skill generals, and instead have them replaced with lackluster communist ones. I found myself spamming War Games to alleviate the situation, which helped, a bit. You also lose such important tech teams as von Rundstedt (rank 9 mobile warfare team, one of Nazi Germany's strong points) and Raeder (rank 6 naval tactics team), and instead have them replaced by generic theorist teams and rank 4 mobile warfare team Willi Stoph. In addition, you are unable to form the Wehrmacht (which gives 30+ additional divisions) and instead much build your army from scratch. While you start with an industry advantage over France, it'll take until the 1940s for you to match them in division count, and that's assuming you are not expanding your navy or air force.

That's not to forget that going Communist tanks your dissent to hell.

The easy part is... you switch out from Italy as your main ally to the Soviet Union. In addition, with both you and USSR communist, all the countries in Central and Northern Europe gain events for communist coup attempts from 1936 to 1941, with a somewhat high chance of going communist. If they do, they instantly join the Comintern. Which means that even if you are unable to peacefully expand yourself, you can peacefully expand the Berlin-Moscow Comintern.

There don't seem to be any events for the Allies DoWing you first, but when you go for the Final Struggle decision, Italy gets to join the Allies, so that's not too good. Still, with the USSR at your side, it shouldn't be too hard. (I have yet to go for the West myself, been gobbling up the East)

Most of what Germany has strong or weak in DH is probably quite close to TTL communist Germany's strengths and weaknesses.

That playthrough also got me to think - Erich Mielke should probably play a role in Hitler's GDR. In DH, he is the most skilled military commander in GDR leader files, at skill level 5 (same level as people like Guderian and Zhukov), and while he probably wouldn't fit as an army general in TTL, I believe he'd be a good Himmler or Heydrich analogue. The man was a psychopath and an executioner in Stalin's Great Purges, and later served as the head of Stasi for 30 years. If there is one man who could lead Communist Hitler's Gestapo or SS, he'd be the man. :)
 
Soooo.

I decided to try a Communist Germany game in Darkest Hour (it has a 1933 start date with a choice to go communist as Germany), and while it has no Hitler as Volksführer, I believe the experience is relevant to this TL anyway.

Germany going communist is both an easy and a hard game.

The hard part is that you don't have access to easy bloodless expansion that Nazi Germany does. You cannot have a plebiscite in the Saar, you cannot Anschluss or have the Munich Diktat. You need to declare wars to expand anywhere past your 1933 borders, and since Central Europe is a jarbled mess of guarantees, non-aggression pacts and alliances, it ain't gonna be easy.

In addition, your army is pretty shit. Since you switch tags from GER to GDR, you lose all of Nazi Germany's plethora of high skill generals, and instead have them replaced with lackluster communist ones. I found myself spamming War Games to alleviate the situation, which helped, a bit. You also lose such important tech teams as von Rundstedt (rank 9 mobile warfare team, one of Nazi Germany's strong points) and Raeder (rank 6 naval tactics team), and instead have them replaced by generic theorist teams and rank 4 mobile warfare team Willi Stoph. In addition, you are unable to form the Wehrmacht (which gives 30+ additional divisions) and instead much build your army from scratch. While you start with an industry advantage over France, it'll take until the 1940s for you to match them in division count, and that's assuming you are not expanding your navy or air force.

That's not to forget that going Communist tanks your dissent to hell.

The easy part is... you switch out from Italy as your main ally to the Soviet Union. In addition, with both you and USSR communist, all the countries in Central and Northern Europe gain events for communist coup attempts from 1936 to 1941, with a somewhat high chance of going communist. If they do, they instantly join the Comintern. Which means that even if you are unable to peacefully expand yourself, you can peacefully expand the Berlin-Moscow Comintern.

There don't seem to be any events for the Allies DoWing you first, but when you go for the Final Struggle decision, Italy gets to join the Allies, so that's not too good. Still, with the USSR at your side, it shouldn't be too hard. (I have yet to go for the West myself, been gobbling up the East)

Most of what Germany has strong or weak in DH is probably quite close to TTL communist Germany's strengths and weaknesses.

That playthrough also got me to think - Erich Mielke should probably play a role in Hitler's GDR. In DH, he is the most skilled military commander in GDR leader files, at skill level 5 (same level as people like Guderian and Zhukov), and while he probably wouldn't fit as an army general in TTL, I believe he'd be a good Himmler or Heydrich analogue. The man was a psychopath and an executioner in Stalin's Great Purges, and later served as the head of Stasi for 30 years. If there is one man who could lead Communist Hitler's Gestapo or SS, he'd be the man. :)

There's a Communist Germany mod for Darkest Hour that expands upon the concept but I'm not sure if it's still active.

It adds many more paths and some interesting ideas to Germany.
 
Chapter XLVI
From dead machines assigned their place in production by capital, the proletarian masses must learn to transform themselves into the free and independent directors of this process. They have to acquire the feeling of responsibility proper to active members of the collectivity which alone possesses ownership of all social wealth. They have to develop industriousness without the capitalist whip, the highest productivity without slavedrivers, discipline without the yoke, order without authority. The highest idealism in the interest of the collectivity, the strictest self-discipline, the truest public spirit of the masses are the moral foundations of socialist society, just as stupidity, egotism, and corruption are the moral foundations of capitalist society.

All these socialist civic virtues, together with the knowledge and skills necessary to direct socialist enterprises, can be won by the mass of workers only through their own activity, their own experience.


~ Rosa Luxemburg



As he tore the final pages from the typewriter, Adolf Hitler couldn’t help but grin. It was a triumphant moment. A work of his own, one that would cement his position in the German Communist Party, and then in Germany itself. It would have to be a position of unassailable leadership. He knew that now.

Brandler would be the first to go, and Thaelmann was clearly skilled but may one day get ideas above his station. The party was like a military unit, and only he knew how to run it. Those who were willing to follow would be put to good use, those who would subvert his control, or proved to be counter-productive, could always be “recalled to Moscow” like poor old Ruth Fischer.

He was sitting in what had been her old office and it amused him to wonder if she had his room at the Hotel Lux, staring at the walls, doing nothing, whilst he made up for her wasted time and lack of accomplishment. It was the greatest proof that history was dialectical, that such poetry could exist and occasionally a person could revel in their accomplishments. If only for a moment.

Goebbels entered the room with the usual enthusiastic grin he always seemed to develop whenever he was in the room. He raised his fist into the air and Adolf repeated the gesture. It was good to see that some order had been introduced to this badly drilled organisation. As for Goebbels himself, Adolf couldn’t help but wonder why the man was so taken with him, but the propagandist can a keen eye for the public mood. If he could make the people view Adolf as he did, then the road to revolution would be all the easier.

“Is it finished?” The anticipation was clear in Goebbels’ voice.

Hitler nodded and smiled.

“The people will read this, and they will know what has to come next.”

Goebbels’ strange grin grew even wider and Adolf couldn’t help but feel affection for the man. He was efficient and he was loyal. The perfect template of what the party would need to become for him to succeed. For the reckoning that he would unleash on the individuals who had tormented him, jailed him, sent him off to die. He would destroy them, and their systems with it, and then he would usher in the new world. A new, purer, world, where the real people of Germany would be in control of their country. True control, rather than the sham elections the Weimar republic indulged in to distract them away from true power.

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The result of the elections had been...disappointing.

The party had gone backwards and the reactionaries of the DNVP had now shed their fictional opposition to selling out the country to foreign interests. He had no interest in the Reichstag of course, but the time for total revolution was still far off and a loud voice for the workers in the bourgeois institution would be vital in the meantime. Thankfully the party could see that now.

Fischer had been the loudest advocate for the party to flippantly commit suicide. She had had to go first, but there would surely be others that would have to be removed. Those who could not see his vision.

It had taken him twelve years to arrive here. He could wait a few more yet. Goebbels picked up the last of the manuscript, the work of over a decade of struggle.

“We’ll get this printed out in the thousands, and have them on every stall. People will finally know the truth!”

The truth being spread, from my hand.

Adolf felt that had a good ring to it.

His old days as a bohemian vagrant had been about that illusory search for truth, and Adolf couldn’t help but think of Franz, his old mentor back in Vienna, directing him towards causes. He had certainly been correct about the popularity of futurism but would he have know that they would all turn out to be fascists? Mussolini, that buffoonish puppet of the rich who the Italian futurists now all seemed to blindly adore as if the man was anything other than a joke. Could he have become a fascist if he had remained in Vienna?

The thought made Adolf shudder.

He had determined his own fate, and now he had climbed to a position where he could determine the fate of his people, and his class.

There was still much work to be done.

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Thanks again to @Utgard96 for the wikibox help. :)
 
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