Working on the chapter later today, between my weekend work at the animal shelter, preparing our garden for winter and now a dinner with my better half, there just wasn't any spare time.
Our Soviet Union (USSR)
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Oooof wow that sounds quite busy. No worries, take your time and have a good day. Don't forget to take some time to relax c:
Dont worry comrade we understand! Everything for the mortherland and proletariat revolution
The Communist International (ComIntern)
The Communist International (ComIntern)
With the Soviet Union made up by the Rus Soviet Federative Socialist Union Republic (RSFSUR), also known as Vostokslavia (East Slav, Eastern Slav, or United Eastern Slav) according to the national delimitation of the Soviet Union, that was made up of the Russian Soviet Federation Socialist Republic (RSFSR), the Byelorussian or White Russian Soviet Socialist Republic (BSSR) and the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (UkSSR), the Transcaucasian Socialist Federation Soviet Republic (TSFSR) Union of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic (ArSSR, Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic (AzSSR) and Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic (GSSR), as well as the Srednyaya Aziya Federation Socialist Soviet Republic (SAFSSR) made up by the Bukharan Soviet Socialist Republic (BuSSR), the Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic (KaSSR), the Khorezm Soviet Socialist Republic (KhSSR) and the Turkistan Soviet Socialist Republic (TSSR), later increased by the Uzbeck Soviet Socialist Republic (UzSSR). The Soviet Union Leadership had realized, that they needed to consolidate their internal control and power first, before the Revolution could spread across the world, just like Revolutionary France had done in Europe around hundredth years earlier. This meant crushing the Basmachi Movement (Bek) in Central Asia, annexation of the Far Eastern Republic, crushing the White Cossack's under Bockkaryov, the Yakut White Revolt (both later reemerging as the All-Tungus Congress Revolt), retaking control over the most northern areas of the native Chukchi and Nganasan people, establishing a peace deal with the Japanese Empire and negotiating the retreat of their forces out of the Russian Far East, Sakhalin and Northern Manchuria, were the North Manchurian Railway was under Russian management. The partial Japanese backed Manchurian Warlords, the Fengtian clique in it’s quest to become the sole recognized government of China however had seized the Chinese Eastern Railway for their own control, nearly sparking a Soviet Union intervention and invasion of Manchuria. Then there was also the issue of Wrangel island, occupied first by the British/ Canadians and then given to the Americans, that had previously been rightfully Russian land. To gain this control the Red Army was used inside the Caucasus and Central Asian Republics alike, were especially Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkish Islamic warlords and ambitious mans supported the Muslim rebels against the atheist Soviet Union there.
The local SSR and SSRU, as well as the USSR needed to be prevented to establish government rivaling movements to step up, as well as prevent local autonomy and independence movements to organize. The ethnics, religions, government organization, classes and casts all needed to be brought into line without increasing civil unrest and creating to many Autonomous SSR and Oblasts which overall could weaken the Soviet Union central cooperation and one-nation-state as a whole. At the same time economic, technical and other specialists were needed to continue their work, even when their loyalty was questionable. A clear balance between to much centralization and to few had to be found. At the same time the Five-Year-Plan and overall need for foreign economic investment opened up the Soviet Union to foreign investment, as well as capitalist influence. All of this meant the Soviet Union was not capable and willing to continue fighting and intervening in Finland, the Baltic Nations, Poland, Eastern Turkestan, Mongolia, Manchuria and the Far East. Instead the Soviet Union would focus on it’s ethnic minorities in these regions to insight unrest and have an additional support pillar beside the communists and socialists there. Many of this local communists and socialists therefore became stronger influenced and depending on the Soviet Union over time. To show at least some form of more direct support beside propaganda and minor supplies of foods and other goods leftover from the Russian Civil War, the Soviet Union hosted the first Communist International (ComIntern), were delegates from various communist, socialist and syndicalist movements and parties would meet in Moscow, among them delegates of the failed Chinese, German (Bavarian/ Hannoveran) and Hungarian Soviet Republics. Here Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and Sorbs would form the Zapadslavia (West Slav, Western Slav, or United West Slav) Delegation, either to create a Western Slavic Union of Soviets themselves, or join the Soviet Union as the Western Slavic Federation. Similarly the Serbian led Yugoslavia (South Slav, Southern Slav, or United South Slav) Delegation of Serbians, Bosnian, Croats, Montenegrin, Slovene, Bulgarian and Macedonians did the same following their example. The East Asan Delegation meanwhile led by the Communist Party of China, also comprised of Tunna Tuvan, Mongolians, East Turkestani, Manchurians, Koreans and Japanese, while African and South Asian delegates mainly focused on an anti-colonial, anti-imperial ambitions and ideal.
With the Soviet Union made up by the Rus Soviet Federative Socialist Union Republic (RSFSUR), also known as Vostokslavia (East Slav, Eastern Slav, or United Eastern Slav) according to the national delimitation of the Soviet Union, that was made up of the Russian Soviet Federation Socialist Republic (RSFSR), the Byelorussian or White Russian Soviet Socialist Republic (BSSR) and the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (UkSSR), the Transcaucasian Socialist Federation Soviet Republic (TSFSR) Union of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic (ArSSR, Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic (AzSSR) and Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic (GSSR), as well as the Srednyaya Aziya Federation Socialist Soviet Republic (SAFSSR) made up by the Bukharan Soviet Socialist Republic (BuSSR), the Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic (KaSSR), the Khorezm Soviet Socialist Republic (KhSSR) and the Turkistan Soviet Socialist Republic (TSSR), later increased by the Uzbeck Soviet Socialist Republic (UzSSR). The Soviet Union Leadership had realized, that they needed to consolidate their internal control and power first, before the Revolution could spread across the world, just like Revolutionary France had done in Europe around hundredth years earlier. This meant crushing the Basmachi Movement (Bek) in Central Asia, annexation of the Far Eastern Republic, crushing the White Cossack's under Bockkaryov, the Yakut White Revolt (both later reemerging as the All-Tungus Congress Revolt), retaking control over the most northern areas of the native Chukchi and Nganasan people, establishing a peace deal with the Japanese Empire and negotiating the retreat of their forces out of the Russian Far East, Sakhalin and Northern Manchuria, were the North Manchurian Railway was under Russian management. The partial Japanese backed Manchurian Warlords, the Fengtian clique in it’s quest to become the sole recognized government of China however had seized the Chinese Eastern Railway for their own control, nearly sparking a Soviet Union intervention and invasion of Manchuria. Then there was also the issue of Wrangel island, occupied first by the British/ Canadians and then given to the Americans, that had previously been rightfully Russian land. To gain this control the Red Army was used inside the Caucasus and Central Asian Republics alike, were especially Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkish Islamic warlords and ambitious mans supported the Muslim rebels against the atheist Soviet Union there.
The local SSR and SSRU, as well as the USSR needed to be prevented to establish government rivaling movements to step up, as well as prevent local autonomy and independence movements to organize. The ethnics, religions, government organization, classes and casts all needed to be brought into line without increasing civil unrest and creating to many Autonomous SSR and Oblasts which overall could weaken the Soviet Union central cooperation and one-nation-state as a whole. At the same time economic, technical and other specialists were needed to continue their work, even when their loyalty was questionable. A clear balance between to much centralization and to few had to be found. At the same time the Five-Year-Plan and overall need for foreign economic investment opened up the Soviet Union to foreign investment, as well as capitalist influence. All of this meant the Soviet Union was not capable and willing to continue fighting and intervening in Finland, the Baltic Nations, Poland, Eastern Turkestan, Mongolia, Manchuria and the Far East. Instead the Soviet Union would focus on it’s ethnic minorities in these regions to insight unrest and have an additional support pillar beside the communists and socialists there. Many of this local communists and socialists therefore became stronger influenced and depending on the Soviet Union over time. To show at least some form of more direct support beside propaganda and minor supplies of foods and other goods leftover from the Russian Civil War, the Soviet Union hosted the first Communist International (ComIntern), were delegates from various communist, socialist and syndicalist movements and parties would meet in Moscow, among them delegates of the failed Chinese, German (Bavarian/ Hannoveran) and Hungarian Soviet Republics. Here Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and Sorbs would form the Zapadslavia (West Slav, Western Slav, or United West Slav) Delegation, either to create a Western Slavic Union of Soviets themselves, or join the Soviet Union as the Western Slavic Federation. Similarly the Serbian led Yugoslavia (South Slav, Southern Slav, or United South Slav) Delegation of Serbians, Bosnian, Croats, Montenegrin, Slovene, Bulgarian and Macedonians did the same following their example. The East Asan Delegation meanwhile led by the Communist Party of China, also comprised of Tunna Tuvan, Mongolians, East Turkestani, Manchurians, Koreans and Japanese, while African and South Asian delegates mainly focused on an anti-colonial, anti-imperial ambitions and ideal.
No time to test a new Poll system today, so should it not work, just vote here ;D
That's not a bad idea.In my opinion years 1924 - 1929 should be treated as a consolidation and rebuilding of our motherland. From 1930 the real game will begin
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I don't understand the options in the last poll.
If we are to rebuild the Soviet Union after the war, that entails trying to increase industry no? And if we are trying to grow domestic industry, then this also implies that we are pursuing a path of self-sufficiency as opposed to buying industrial products from the developed Capitalist economies? And so all options are the same, including the last, and the way they are phrased we are not forced to make any kind of trade-off or actual decision.
If we are to rebuild the Soviet Union after the war, that entails trying to increase industry no? And if we are trying to grow domestic industry, then this also implies that we are pursuing a path of self-sufficiency as opposed to buying industrial products from the developed Capitalist economies? And so all options are the same, including the last, and the way they are phrased we are not forced to make any kind of trade-off or actual decision.
It's more of a what to focus on primerely at first kind of poll, wich one should take priority at the moment, should have been more specific with that I guess.
Same. C seems the option the Japanese would accept with the least amount of argument. Plus after basically being snubbed at Versailles, they might appreciate that at least one European power is willing treat them like the victor.
I went with B because it's a solid middle ground. We already agreed we're in no position to go war again, we don't want to risk alienating our allies in the CCP and the railroad is too helpful to the economy to let it go.
And finally, Option A will put us in position to begin work on the others.
