Our Fair Country: The Commonwealth of New England

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Kanan, Jan 11, 2018.

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  1. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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  2. TheKutKu Well-Known Member

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    Holy shit
     
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  3. Imperolo Long Live the Grand Republic!

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  4. Arthur Marston Well-Known Member

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    I wonder what this alt-alt-North America would look like by TTL present-day.
     
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  5. KaiserEmu Emperor and Autocrat of all the Emus, etc.

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    And now an eleventh hour entry!
    (Well, if I get extra time, I’m going to take advantage of it!)
    The previous one makes my entry look pretty feeble in comparison, but here goes:

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    The following is a map from the popular alternate history timeline The Red Tsar Reigns, based on the question: what if Stalin had successfully invaded Europe? The POD is that Kamenev’s coup in 1946 fails and as a result, the Soviet Civil War does not begin.

    As a result, when Germany and Poland erupt into civil war after communist uprisings, Stalin takes the chance to begin his great invasion of Europe, launching Operation Lenin on 23 August 1947 and beginning an invasion of the Balkans and Poland. He rebuffs multiple attempts by the Germans to call for an armistice, until, on 17 November 1947, President Hugenberg and Chancellor von Papen are executed and the German government declared dissolved by the communist rebels.

    Stalin, whose forces had reached the Oder, offered to the rebels their admission to the USSR as four new Union Republics; the Prussian SSR, the German Federal SSR, the Rhenish Federal SSR and the Bavarian SSR. They would retain their self-government in exchange for recognising Stalin as General Secretary and merging their armies into the Red Army. The proposal was met with varying levels of acceptance; the delegates of the Prussian Commune accepted almost immediately (possibly to do with the fact they were under Soviet occupation), while the United Communes of the Rhine took two weeks to accept the proposal (definitely
    without any intimidation from Soviet authorities). The Commonwealth had no chance to respond; while they were still drawing up plans for an intervention, a treaty was signed and the Soviet Union stretched to the Rhine.

    France's labour revolts spiralled out of control and a Communist President was elected in 1948, who dissolved the Third Republic and created the closely Soviet-aligned Fourth Republic. In the Balkans, nations were falling like dominoes; Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Greece and Turkey, in quick succession, all fell to the the Evil Empire. Czechia and Krebs' Austria fell in 1951. In the east, the Chinese Civil War ground to a stalemate and Chu Teh secured the admission of the Chinese People's Soviet Socialist Republic to the USSR, while Korea was split between a free South and the Korean SSR in the North. Finland once again lost its independence.

    In the final months of 1952, the French and Soviets commenced Operation October, a two-pronged assault on Italy. It was to be followed by the establishment of puppet states in Iberia and the creation of new SSRs in the Nordics. Famines in Russia eased as Stalin looted Europe for his own gain. As they were stripped of their resources and industry, the German SSRs began to seriously regret their decision. But it was too late now.

    Europe was Stalin’s; his face was on posters from Paris to Peking. The Venetian SR was the last to be admitted to the Union, as on 7 February 1953, Joseph Stalin, the Red Tsar, Conqueror of Europe suffered a stroke and died.

    The Red Tsar had reigned, and he had wrought violence, hatred and destruction. Now he was gone - but Europe had a long journey to peace ahead of it yet.

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    The above map is a map of the USSR and its allies on 6 February 1953, the day before Stalin’s death.

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    The map can also be found here, as DeviantArt can be a bit temperamental with its images.
     
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  6. Kanan Timeline Raises New and Troubling Questions Donor

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    The results are in! After careful consideration and judging (myself and my girlfriend), we've picked the winners! There were so many high-quality entries (11 in total!) that this was a very hard decision to come to.

    So, without further adieu; we'd like to congratulate @TheKutKu for his winning entry: Saguin County, New York!

    Second place goes to @KanonenKartoffel for the British-German War series!

    I must give a special shoutout to @Imperolo for the excellent "American Crisis"!! I must admit it came a very close third for its quality and was so good to read! The content was excellent, so please -- check out his timeline here: George Washington II! I've read some myself and it is most excellent.

    Thank you again to every who entered!! I plan on doing something similar to this at the end of the year. This was an absolute blast to do and all of these entries were super good. This was a really hard choice! <3
     
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  7. Philosopher Jaden Smith Member

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    Mmm, imagine all the fresh new ethnic conflicts this would cause when the Soviet Union collapses...
     
  8. TheHolySchwa VENI VIDI VAGIVI

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    Who said that the Soviet Union collapses? Remember that this is an alternate OFC timeline, where the Soviet Union still exists to this day (although, in all fairness, this massive European empire probably would’ve collapsed eventually).
     
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  9. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    Sorry if I am dumb, but is there a thread or place other than this where we can view all DBWI contest entries?
     
  10. Gian Wizard of Watkins Mill

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    Now imagine if Stalin lived a few years a la Twilight of the Red Tsar
     
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  11. Philosopher Jaden Smith Member

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    From my experience, larger and more diverse empires lead to more political instability, especially if you spend too much of your resources on war. Just ask the Austrians.
     
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  12. Kanan Timeline Raises New and Troubling Questions Donor

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    Not really. They are on my discord (DM for a link!) and in here, that's about it.
     
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  13. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    And if ITTL Soviet Russia went through the same economic problems as OTL, it is very likely that the country would've collapsed a lot sooner.

    I can picture ITTL Britain pulling a Charlie Wilson, and funding some guerrilla campaign.
     
  14. Israel_Dan the Man Well-Known Member

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    Kanan, sorry I've been away (school is annoyingly in my life too much), but I've just caught up and your work is AWESOME.

    But the most important question is:

    IS THERE STILL AVENGERS ENDGAME ITTL???????? WE NEED TO KNOW!

    Also, what is the highest grossing film ever ITTL? Not including inflation.
     
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  15. Pat Paul Active Member

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    Perhaps an even better question to ask would be the state of the comic book industry in the United States, if there even is one. For all we know they still predominantly have newspaper funnies and serial literature like Victorian penny dreadfuls.
     
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  16. Pat Paul Active Member

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    Another couple things, was there ever a development in the American conservatism like the New Conservative movement of OTL's 1950s, one that sought emulate European conservatism by combining communitarian traditionalist social policies with the social market economics of people like Wilhelm Ropke?

    And one last thing. IOTL there was a lot of talk in the 1920s and 1930s about Bayside, NY becoming a major entertainment center with a new movie and production studio, and several like Charlie Chaplin, Gloria Swanson, and Norma Talmadge lived in Bayside. It never materialized though. Did something like that happen in this timeline?
     
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  17. Philosopher Jaden Smith Member

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    Well Kevin Feige, who basically founded the MCU, is from Massachusetts, so if he’s still in it I’ll bet it has a bit less focus on America.
     
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  18. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    So all entries are in this thread? Correct? That's cool enough, then I will look through the last pages of the thread more thoroughly at some point!
     
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  19. Kanan Timeline Raises New and Troubling Questions Donor

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    Nope. The majority are on the discord
     
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