Our Fair Country: The Commonwealth of New England

Status
Not open for further replies.
Reader mode
CNN: 01/01/2019
  • Index
    • CosmicAsh

    CosmicAsh

    iePoWmJ.png
     
  • Index
    • ETGalaxy

    ETGalaxy

    Kanan said:
    iePoWmJ.png
    Click to expand...
    So is Hillary Clinton some sort of equivalent of John McCain? That's actually a really fun twist! Also, are there any internal factions of the Social Labor Party like what is going on with the Democratic Party of OTL? I do have to wonder what the left wing of the USA is like without Bernie Sanders present.
     

    leecannon_

    ETGalaxy said:
    So is Hillary Clinton some sort of equivalent of John McCain? That's actually a really fun twist! Also, are there any internal factions of the Social Labor Party like what is going on with the Democratic Party of OTL? I do have to wonder what the left wing of the USA is like without Bernie Sanders present.
    Click to expand...
    To me it seems there’s the more moderate what we would calll “establishment” politicians like Hillary, and the “left wing” of the party is the extremely pro-union working class wing. This might not be left wing as we think it, as in the past they’re have been economically liberal but socially conservative Social Labor candidates. It may be more socially moderate if not conservative
     
    CosmicAsh

    CosmicAsh

    ETGalaxy said:
    So is Hillary Clinton some sort of equivalent of John McCain? That's actually a really fun twist! Also, are there any internal factions of the Social Labor Party like what is going on with the Democratic Party of OTL? I do have to wonder what the left wing of the USA is like without Bernie Sanders present.
    Click to expand...

    Hillary Clinton is essentially "New Social Labor" which is the moderate (minority) faction of the Social Labor party. She is known as being very centrist, voting with the Nationals often on economic issues (remember, the Nationals are broadly economic neoliberals and social libertarians). Social Labor itself is a party dominated by the unions, and represents union interests. Economically they can easily said to be socialist, with an emphasis on the working class and rural voters. In terms of social issues, the party is very much a "big tent," where you have almost any social belief imaginable, from what we'd consider the "Hard-Right" of social groups (e.g. Church-in-Government type - this blends with the rural voters well who support Church in the government and the government to provide for the people) as well as what we'd consider the left (e.g. LGBTQ+ Rights, Gender Equity, Pro-Choice, ect.) It's much more varied than the Nationals who stress the individual most of all. In a hypothetical debate from a southern National and a western Social Labor politician, the Social Labor individual would raise the topic of banning Abortion (for all the reasons used in real life), while the National, even if they agreed with every statement, would reiterate as such but oppose the notion because it restricts the freedom of the woman in question.
     
    InfernoMole

    InfernoMole

    Kanan said:
    In a hypothetical debate from a southern National and a western Social Labor politician, the Social Labor individual would raise the topic of banning Abortion (for all the reasons used in real life), while the National, even if they agreed with every statement, would reiterate as such but oppose the notion because it restricts the freedom of the woman in question.
    Click to expand...

    Are there any other potential candidates on the Dem side?
     
    MasterSanders

    MasterSanders

    Kanan said:
    Hillary Clinton is essentially "New Social Labor" which is the moderate (minority) faction of the Social Labor party. She is known as being very centrist, voting with the Nationals often on economic issues (remember, the Nationals are broadly economic neoliberals and social libertarians). Social Labor itself is a party dominated by the unions, and represents union interests. Economically they can easily said to be socialist, with an emphasis on the working class and rural voters. In terms of social issues, the party is very much a "big tent," where you have almost any social belief imaginable, from what we'd consider the "Hard-Right" of social groups (e.g. Church-in-Government type - this blends with the rural voters well who support Church in the government and the government to provide for the people) as well as what we'd consider the left (e.g. LGBTQ+ Rights, Gender Equity, Pro-Choice, ect.) It's much more varied than the Nationals who stress the individual most of all. In a hypothetical debate from a southern National and a western Social Labor politician, the Social Labor individual would raise the topic of banning Abortion (for all the reasons used in real life), while the National, even if they agreed with every statement, would reiterate as such but oppose the notion because it restricts the freedom of the woman in question.
    Click to expand...

    @Gonzo : *heavy breathing*
     
    Aeqouria

    Aeqouria

    Kanan said:
    Hillary Clinton is essentially "New Social Labor" which is the moderate (minority) faction of the Social Labor party. She is known as being very centrist, voting with the Nationals often on economic issues (remember, the Nationals are broadly economic neoliberals and social libertarians). Social Labor itself is a party dominated by the unions, and represents union interests. Economically they can easily said to be socialist, with an emphasis on the working class and rural voters. In terms of social issues, the party is very much a "big tent," where you have almost any social belief imaginable, from what we'd consider the "Hard-Right" of social groups (e.g. Church-in-Government type - this blends with the rural voters well who support Church in the government and the government to provide for the people) as well as what we'd consider the left (e.g. LGBTQ+ Rights, Gender Equity, Pro-Choice, ect.) It's much more varied than the Nationals who stress the individual most of all. In a hypothetical debate from a southern National and a western Social Labor politician, the Social Labor individual would raise the topic of banning Abortion (for all the reasons used in real life), while the National, even if they agreed with every statement, would reiterate as such but oppose the notion because it restricts the freedom of the woman in question.
    Click to expand...

    I'm gonna guess there is quite a bit of infighting within Social Labor
     
    CosmicAsh

    CosmicAsh

    InfernoMole said:
    Are there any other potential candidates on the Dem side?
    Click to expand...

    Well the Democrats haven't been around since the 1860s so no :winkytongue:

    Otherwise, potential big stars making moves in Social Labor are...

    Senator Héctor López (JF)
    Governor Michael Moore (MI)
    Senator Corey Booker (NJ)
    Governor Eric Garcetti (CA)
    Governor Jason Carter (GA)
    Govenor Donald Trump (NJ)
    Governor Andrew Gillum (WF)
    Representative Jared Polis (AP)
    Frmr. Senator Russ Feingold (WI)
    Representative Alan Grayson (SA)

    Ugly Idiot said:
    I'm gonna guess there is quite a bit of infighting within Social Labor
    Click to expand...

    You betcha.
     

    leecannon_

    Kanan said:
    Well the Democrats haven't been around since the 1860s so no :winkytongue:

    Otherwise, potential big stars making moves in Social Labor are...

    Senator Héctor López (JF)
    Governor Michael Moore (MI)
    Senator Corey Booker (NJ)
    Governor Eric Garcetti (CA)
    Governor Jason Carter (GA)
    Govenor Donald Trump (NJ)
    Governor Andrew Gillum (WF)
    Representative Jared Polis (AP)
    Frmr. Senator Russ Feingold (WI)
    Representative Alan Grayson (SA)



    You betcha.
    Click to expand...
    Feingold/Polis/Gillum are my top choices
     

    Cybercat

    I think this is the first Time Line I have seen where both Donald Trump and Andrew Gillum are in the same party, I both love it and am so so scared
     
    Reader mode
    Top
    Status
    Not open for further replies.
    Top