ottoman empire wins in WW1

This is my first post and so something I've always wonderd here goes,
Okay lets say that the Otoman Empire puts its forces in palestine and manages to defeat the british as well as takeing a large chunk out of Iran, then when the United states enters the war the Ottoman empire bids for peace and offers most of Iran back if the british leave them alone, the war in germany doesn't change so how will this effect europe and will it change WW2?
 
Your POD would have to be pretty early on for the Ottomans to have industrialized enough to field a modern military force capable of beating the British.

Not sure how you'd acomplish this, though it'd likely have a number of butterflies.
 

mowque

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Hmm, interesting concept. Although you'll have to be more specific. We are picky about this sort of thing here. ;)

So the Ottomans have a better army going in or they just super lucky against the Brits or what? And what is this about Iran?

Welcome to the Board.
 
Alternatively you could have them remain neutral. That'd probably be the best case scenario for them.
 
A combonation of both luck and some modernazation but in WW2 I thought that maybe Hitler would go after the empire for not coming to Germanys aid in the end or possibly seek an ally to help conqure africa and as for Iran the Empire Invaded Iran to try and get the British oil fields so in this scenario they manage to advance about halfway through
 
A combonation of both luck and some modernazation but in WW2 I thought that maybe Hitler would go after the empire for not coming to Germanys aid in the end or possibly seek an ally to help conqure africa and as for Iran the Empire Invaded Iran to try and get the British oil fields so in this scenario they manage to advance about halfway through

Invade a surviving Ottoman Empire is the last thing Hitler would want to do. Presumably their borders are similar to OTL's 1914 borders, maybe with some gains in Arabia. That means they're sitting on quite a bit of discovered oil already, something Hitler needs large quantities of.

The ideal trading partner in other words. A war would cut off that supply and the damage to the infastructure in the region would be extensive, even if Hitler conquered the middle east, it would be quite some time before he saw any oil from it.
 
Your POD would have to be pretty early on for the Ottomans to have industrialized enough to field a modern military force capable of beating the British.

Not sure how you'd acomplish this, though it'd likely have a number of butterflies.

"Gallipoli" and "Kut". The Ottomans regularly beat the British until the latter had overwhelming force in 1918. By the time the USA had entered, the British had accomplished very little except in Mesopotamia. The POD need only be very minor adjustments to initial dispositions to leave a reasonable garrison in South Mesopotamia. It would have been best to withdraw from the war before the USA entered, however, when they were likely to get a decent deal.
 
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