Otto von Bismarck serves Russia

Maybe he looses all titles and power during the political crisis in the early 1860es and goes elswhere. What would be the consequences if he serves the tsar and joins the ranks of German nobility among the Russian officials.
 
Why Bismarck would serve Russia? On 1860's there was many other German nations. I think that Bismarck was too patriotic that he could serve some another country, speciality such which not be German.
 
The Russians will not take Bismarck in the 1860s. He is too recognisable, too much of a household name. He might choose to take Russian emlpoyment at the beginning of his career - many Germans did. But if he falls from grace in 1860, he is not hopeful talent, he's damaged goods. Retirement on an honorary pension and a place to write his memoirs would be the best he could hope for.
 
Why Bismarck would serve Russia? On 1860's there was many other German nations. I think that Bismarck was too patriotic that he could serve some another country, speciality such which not be German.

Could he go to Austria? Now that would be an interesting scenario, if he tries to salvage the mess that was Austria-Hungary against the Prussian interests :D
 
Could he go to Austria? Now that would be an interesting scenario, if he tries to salvage the mess that was Austria-Hungary against the Prussian interests :D

Depends was he on early 1860's so anti-Catholic as he was after unification of Germany.
 
Depends was he on early 1860's so anti-Catholic as he was after unification of Germany.

I think this is too simplified. OvB was not per se anti-Catholic, he was very much against the secular power of the Roman church - a church that just had accepted the dogma of papal infallibility.

It was about stuff like non-religious elementary schools, about civil marriage, it was very much about the separating of state and church, only that the protestant churches were agents of the state and so conflict could only arise between the state and the catholic church.
 
Depends was he on early 1860's so anti-Catholic as he was after unification of Germany.

THe problem really is not his anti-Catholicism (that was more a function of politics than a heartfelt crusdade). HIs Protestant faith would be an issue, it would make it impossible for him to rise to the highest levels of k.u.k. government. But the biggest obstacle remains the timeframe posited: In the 1860s, Bismarck is a household name in politics. Austria has no cause to love him. Even if he were thrown out by the Prussian king, he would still be an old enemy. Could you envision a US president inviting an exiled Soviet minister into his cabinet? Or a disgraced minister of the French Republic being welcomed into Wilhelm II's court? Too much baggage.

The 1840s would be a different issue. At the beginning of his career, Bismarck could well choose to take service elsewhere. But after he was effectively master of Prussia, he cannot just be 'hired' by anyone else.
 
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