OTL Map Thread Mk IV., 2014-

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by SaveAtlacamani, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. SaveAtlacamani Atlacamani Conservationist Donor

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    Here, from now onwards, all OTL basemaps go. Be they UCS, TACOS, or any other crative colour scheme.
     
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    These two links are very important too:
    Pre 1900:
    http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/resources/pre1900mapdump

    Post 1900:
    http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/resources/post_1900_w

    If manage to get the ancient versions off the main page it would really help, especially for new people. They dont know which map is the best and newest version to use. They dont know about the wiki either.
     
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  4. SaveAtlacamani Atlacamani Conservationist Donor

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    Opunium, could you post all the maps from the two links in the thread itself?
     
  5. Lascupa0788 Avantyurysta Class II

    Stop. The two links posted there are included within my singular link, and my singular link also includes things much further updated. Additionally, even better maps are present in the 550BC through modern day thread. Posting the worst of three sets is completely pointless.
     
  6. SaveAtlacamani Atlacamani Conservationist Donor

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    Of course. I also wanted the best basemaps here, not the worst. Sorry if it seemed like that, I apologise...
     
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  8. Opunium Pickled

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    Newbies dont know about the wiki and are not going to search in a 200 page thread for the 'most up to date basemaps'. They open the thread and see basemaps from 2007, and they use those, why? Because they are on the first page. That's why we need a new thread.
     
  9. Alex Richards Still, at least we're not Heanor UDC Donor

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    Which is why, IMHO, we simply need a short stickied stub informing people of the wiki Hubs (Base Map and OTL Map) and then desticky some of the current threads rather than having yet another one up here.

    We did in fact discuss doing a new basemap thread a while back, and came to the conclusion that based on how frequently we're applying patches (In the process of doing a map of 1885 for example I've essentially redrawn the entre South Pacific) the maps at the start of the thread would very quickly become very outdated. Hence we use the basemap thread for discussion and post finished work on the wiki.

    So no, posting all those maps from the wiki in this thread is not very helpful at all because you just perpetuate the issue rather than solving it.
     
  10. Opunium Pickled

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    Which is why I am not following Partypiratists his orders.

    So why is there no stickied 'map wiki hub' on this page and why are the old, super ancient outdated threads still stickied? What's stopping it? At there should be moderator able to unsticky all those uneeded threads.
     
  11. Transparent Blue TRANSPARENT! TRANSPARENT!

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    Yes I think the wiki is more suited to stand as a centralized hub for all graphics resources (not just maps, also tutorials and links) and stickied forum threads need to reflect this. Threads are very bad for finding specific items.
     
  12. Alex Richards Still, at least we're not Heanor UDC Donor

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    It's a one-step thing though not a two-step. There's no value to unstickying the current depositories before we've got the replacement system ready to step in immediately. Partially it's because the discussion on that got buried beneath discussion on map creation. Partially there was a desire to have the wiki better organised and updated first (which it now is but I'm pretty sure wasn't at the time). Partially it's because there wasn't agreement on how to reorganise the stickies (I think it was before the BaM/MaG split as well which lessened the situation somewhat for a while) in the wider community though those of us actually working on the basemaps had already reached agreement on the futility of a new thread. Personally I also think that the stub thread should be posted by a mod and then locked (like the thread on Evolutionary/Geological PoDs in pre 1900) rather than created by someone else and stickied.
     
  13. Opunium Pickled

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    Any chance there is a mod following this thread? ;)
     
  14. CalBear Your Ursus arctos californicus Moderator Moderator Donor

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    Actually since there has been a report there is now.

    I agree that there are way too many threads stickied. Problem is that all seem to have purpose.

    Be glad to unstick all of them if they are causing discord.

    Life's too short & all that.
     
  15. SaveAtlacamani Atlacamani Conservationist Donor

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    Hereby, I formally request unstickying the following threads in the Maps and Graphics forum:

    All the OTL Maps from 500 CE to 2007
    Map Series Thread
    A Blank Map Thread
    Base Maps from 550 CE to 2007, all in UCS

    which will all be replaced by this thread, and another Blank Map Thread. However, these two will only serve for discussion and the finished works will be updated on the Wiki, to which newbies (and some "oldies) must be convienently redirected.

    The Map Series will now go in the regular Map Thread.

    Unstick any other thread at your discretion...

    Can you do all this formally, with the tools and power of moderation?
     
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  16. Alex Richards Still, at least we're not Heanor UDC Donor

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    No. This thread serves no real purpose, and new threads simply perpetuates the current problems rather than giving an actual solution. They should be replaced with a single stub thread containing links to the wiki's Blank Map Directory, Revised Worlda Database and the Resources Hub. Links to those threads can also be put in with emphasis on the fact that they are discussion threads (you could add the QBAM work updating thread as well). Except the Map Series thread, that's got absolutely nothing to do with this at all.

    We do not need new discussion threads if these aren't stickied at the top of the page, and causing abrupt breaks in the ongoing discussion from the current basemap workthread is not a good idea either.
     
  17. CalBear Your Ursus arctos californicus Moderator Moderator Donor

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    I am getting the impression that the best thing to do here is unstick everything.
     
  18. Alex Richards Still, at least we're not Heanor UDC Donor

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    Frankly this thread should as well. It's already become a discussion on stickying policy anyway.
     
  19. Reagent Cartography's Reactionary

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    I think the OP should be edited to include this (and every few months or so, we can compile the changes, and ask for the OP to be updated), or should we just make a new basemap thread with this as the OP (to avoid the clutter ?

    Blank Basemap
    Present Day
    Ancient Blank Basemap Patch

    Prehistory
    Miocene Epoch (23-5 Million Years ago)
    Last Ice Age
    50,000 BCE

    Dawn of History to the Fall of Rome (before 475 AD)

    1450 BC
    1350 BC
    1300 BC
    610 BC
    600 BC
    550 BC
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    335 BC
    323 BC
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    44 BC
    1 AD
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    Fall of Rome to First Voyage of Christopher Columbus (476 AD to 1492 AD)
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    28 January 814 AD
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    24 July 1115 AD
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    First Voyage of Columbus to Storming of the Bastille (1492 AD - 1789 AD)
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    1789 AD

    Storming of the Bastille to Battle of Waterloo (1789 AD - 1815 AD)
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    Battle of Waterloo to Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand (1815 AD - 1914 AD)

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    1885 AD (Work in Progress)
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    First World War (1914 AD - 1918 AD)
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    11 November 1918 AD

    Interwar Period (1919 AD - 1939 AD)
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    February 1939 AD

    World War II (1939 AD - 1945 AD)
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    Cold War (1945 AD - 1991 AD)

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    End of History (1992 - Present Day)
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    September 11 2001 AD
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    June 2011 AD
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    2013 AD
    July 1 2014 AD

    Various Regional Patches
    Early Chinese Dynasties
    Byzantine Empire
    Byzantine Empire 2
    Carolingian Empire 843
    Aztec Empire
    Inca Empire 1533
    African States
    United States State Cessions
    United States Territorial Development 1789 -1819
    United States Territorial Development 1820 - 1861
    United States Territorial Development 1861 - 1864
    United States Territorial Development 1865 - Present
    Mexico Territorial Development 1821 -1848
    Mexico Territorial Development 1848 - Present
    Canada Territorial Development
    Australia Territorial Development
    Modern Persia Territorial Development
    Ecuador-Peru-Colombia-Brazil Territorial Development
    Modern China Border Changes
    Eastern Africa
    French West Africa
    Morocco timeline
    Yemen timeline
    Suez War
    Ogaden War
     
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  20. Lapsed Pacifist Shut up Wellesley

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    Just out of curiosity, how come India's colour has been changed?