Indeed. That's what happens when you have only two parties who hate each other's guts but aren't necessarily extremely different in terms of ideology (although these days there's more of a divide than in the past).
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Indeed. That's what happens when you have only two parties who hate each other's guts but aren't necessarily extremely different in terms of ideology (although these days there's more of a divide than in the past).
nEw yOrK aNd cHicAgo sTiLl lOOk A bIt gErrYmAndErEdNew York and Chicago still look a bit gerrymandered.
New York and Chicago still look a bit gerrymandered.
I assume they still followed the VRA requirements for majority-minority districts, which would result in having to jump through some hoops in the major cities.
Alex Richards
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Please don't drag that abomination of a meme over here please. It's not funny and adds nothing to the conversation.
shiftygiant
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You could have just addressed the apparent gerrymander of Chicago and New York.
There were several districts of boroughs in England and Wales later on. I had come up with that thought myself previously.
Sorry to ask but were the districts an attempt to expand Schedule B boroughs to incorporate previously unrepresented towns or groupings of Schedule As? Presumably they were on something like a county basis as on the Welsh model. The source I was reading was I think referring to bringing new settlements into existing boroughs and thus the map would include towns that were not previously electing their own MPs.
Couldn't rightly say. Actually, I seem to have been mistaken about England, sorry
, but they were used in Wales. See here and here for more details.This one is an IRL example: Beaumaris was a constituency from 1536 to 1885. Following the 1832 Reform Act, it incorporated several other towns, and became known as the Beaumaris District of Boroughs.
I could definitely see the Rotten Boroughs being "preserved" in some way by folding them into districts of boroughs, especially in places like Cornwall (Truro District of Boroughs, anyone?), which had a tonne of them.
Couldn't rightly say. Actually, I seem to have been mistaken about England, sorry
This one is an IRL example: Beaumaris was a constituency from 1536 to 1885. Following the 1832 Reform Act, it incorporated several other towns, and became known as the Beaumaris District of Boroughs.
I could definitely see the Rotten Boroughs being "preserved" in some way by folding them into districts of boroughs, especially in places like Cornwall (Truro District of Boroughs, anyone?), which had a tonne of them.
For my timeline I was thinking of adopting the concept wholesale; a significantly watered down version which had dubious Schedule Bs grabbing 'nearby' towns of relatively similar socio-economic profile in just that kind of manner, whilst also grouping the herds of Schedule As into just that kind of District. Thanks for the help its been really heavy going trying to get into information. Lots of references like the 'Droitwich & Bromsgrove' proposal but frustratingly little else.
EDIT - the top 25 or so of Drummond's List seems fairly doomed either way.
I would like to see what you have in mind, in the form of a map, when you have finished.
I would like to see what you have in mind, in the form of a map, when you have finished.
If I can discover where exactly the 26 proposals are located then a map will be the first thing I produce. Guess this pays me back for trying to un-simplify the Reformed Parliament.
This source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1468-2281.12180/full has basically been the only useful one so far; its told me that 1 of the 26 proposals was Dorking and Reigate but that is as far as I have got. Seriously frustrating because there must be a list I can find somewhere that isn't in a collection of private papers you can only obtain by visiting Staffordshire in person.
Were Rochester and Strood and Dorchester and Fordington also proposals or am I reading that wrong?
I think they were more conventional extensions of a contiguous Schedule B seat but I might be wrong.